On February 19 2012 04:47 Incze wrote: Seriously force field is stupid. It's a 1 button spell that can completely change the result of a battle. It's not even hard to use. Press E put it down and bam you own the guy. Blizzard should seriously consider changing it a bit cause that shit is ridiculous.
I agree FF is dumb but you can't really say that about ff and not fungal.
sentrys are a T1 unit with a decent attack
infesters are a T2 unit without an attack
infesters deserve a powerful spell, and you need a good chunk of infesters to actually turn the tides of a battle but only a couple sentries can make a fight you shouldnt be able to win a complete cake walk for your units
Sentries are a T1 unit that protoss needs to survive all all-ins. Infestors also have burrow/infested terrans, you can't really complain about one without the other. They are both units that have a great effect on engagements, infestors also have the ability to harass with is why they are T2.
If they were to nerf forcefield Toss would be completely underpowered.
Wow that Terran was pretty bad. Opened hellions and stil took a ton of damage from initial ling harass. Loses his army out in the open to kill a 1/10 done hatch. Takes a shit ton of damage from lings at 3rd...
On February 19 2012 04:51 hysterial wrote: I don't understand why he doesnt get ovy drops. No point getting mad about forcefield when you dont even use drops. Unfortunately you can't just a move into protoss forcefield will mess your day up.
On February 19 2012 04:51 hysterial wrote: I don't understand why he doesnt get ovy drops. No point getting mad about forcefield when you dont even use drops. Unfortunately you can't just a move into protoss forcefield will mess your day up.
burrow+move > ff
ovy drops is like terran using his medivacs to drop his marines / marauders over forcefields.
also please do not start with burrow + move . If it were that simple , every single zerg pro would be getting it. investing 200~ gas and delayed roach speed on the off chance he doesn't have an observer with his army is ... stupid.
Also I think forcefields are extremely strong but I don't think they are unmanageable .
Anyway I shouldn't be having a balance debate here. Sorry.
On February 19 2012 04:47 Incze wrote: Seriously force field is stupid. It's a 1 button spell that can completely change the result of a battle. It's not even hard to use. Press E put it down and bam you own the guy. Blizzard should seriously consider changing it a bit cause that shit is ridiculous.
I agree FF is dumb but you can't really say that about ff and not fungal.
sentrys are a T1 unit with a decent attack
infesters are a T2 unit without an attack
infesters deserve a powerful spell, and you need a good chunk of infesters to actually turn the tides of a battle but only a couple sentries can make a fight you shouldnt be able to win a complete cake walk for your units
Sentries are a T1 unit that protoss needs to survive all all-ins. Infestors also have burrow/infested terrans, you can't really complain about one without the other. They are both units that have a great effect on engagements, infestors also have the ability to harass with is why they are T2.
If they were to nerf forcefield Toss would be completely underpowered.
im not saying nerf forcefields, im jsut pointing out that saying "well if you call FF overpowered then you ahve to call fungal OP" is bad logic
FFis OP it does need a nerf but protoss will obvious need some sort of buff to compensate
im jsut really tired of seeing a huge Zerg army barrel down on a toss army then the toss losing 2 stalkers becuase of forcefields, defeating toss armies is all about jsut bareling them down until they have no forcefields left and hope you ahve enough eco and production to finish off the army, protoss armies should be more then "well i wreck all if i ahve forcefilds but get wrecked without them" needs to be middle ground
On February 19 2012 05:16 schimmetje wrote: Nice games today Captain Gregory sir. Few slip ups but overall looking pretty good.
I think his ZvP might be getting better!
Yups. And he's trying different things, not just sitting there going "blegh Protoss I'm going to die" like how people like to characterize him. Twas nice. Plus looooong, which is good because more IdrA is always better :D
you guys realise most of the stuff he knows he doesn't tell everyone on his stream? he has even got vods on his stream, anyone can watch his stream to prepare for matches against him easily.
On February 19 2012 05:47 ThePlayer33 wrote: you guys realise most of the stuff he knows he doesn't tell everyone on his stream? he has even got vods on his stream, anyone can watch his stream to prepare for matches against him easily.
He's Zerg and he's IdrA though. I would imagine customs are a lot more important to work issues in defenses etc out than thinking up snipe builds. Last time he did the latter that didn't work out too well >< Not to mention there's just not that many of those builds for the race.
Always good to see him get more comfortable with differing styles on ladder however. Last time we saw him do that before big tournaments he smashed those.
In lieu of all the IdrA hate recently from certain places, I created a light-hearted little image showing what Greg would be like if he were the polar opposite, enjoy. =)
On February 19 2012 10:49 SC2NeCro wrote: In lieu of all the IdrA hate recently from certain places, I created a light-hearted little image showing what Greg would be like if he were the polar opposite, enjoy. =)