On February 07 2012 15:17 Jisall wrote: Squitle Vs. Seal.
The Ultimate Showdown of Water Pokemon.
[insert photoshop] VS.
We shall see tonight who is truely the king of the Pokemon Stadium. Thats right for one night only folks, There is going to be bubble's popped, water gun's shot, hardened used, and an Aurora Beam of Death that could only come from the 40 Foot behemouths we call Collosus.
Edit: I need Resizing Images for dummies
How the heck could u leave out the STRONGEST water attack, Hydro Pump?
Accuracy. Competitive Pokemon player here, if you're running a sweeper that would OHKO things it wouldn't 2HKO with Surf, Hydro Pump can be okay, or if it's something that learns Hydro Pump but not Surf (ala Rotom-W), but other than that, only 8 uses and shitty accuracy means Surf > Hydro Pump. Also consider that most Water types are bulky so the extra power doesn't mean a whole lot.
tl;dr he should have mentioned Surf instead
LOL, I was gonna write up something along those lines, because Hydro Pump and Surf have the same effective power when accuracy is taken into account. But my assumption was that no one else on TL would care for a competitive pokémon discussion >.<
On February 07 2012 16:12 Kerwin wrote: I feel kinda ripped off... I'm a light user and I pay 20 bucks to watch just as many games live as someone who doesn't pay at all?
Edit: ooooooooh when did I get a shiny for adding stuff to liquipedia?
Edit again: I guess I won't be able to update the liquipedia tonight because I won't be able to watch the B Stream and would want to be spoiler-free until I can watch the uploaded games... guess I'll have to not pay attention to this thread or chat too... GOM makes me sad today
I'm not sure what you're complaining about... Light has always meant HQ but never dual-stream. I bought Premium with the expectation to watch dual-stream.
Today is the first day I'll ever not be able to watch dual-stream, and I've always paid the least amount I can for HQ live / VODs. I see now on the tickets page that 'Dual Streams' is listed under premium features, but it's kinda dumb for me to pay 20 extra bucks to watch 8 games live that I can otherwise watch on VODs later... just kinda disappointed because I'd like to watch those games live, but 20 bucks to do so is ridiculous.
I was more responding to previous posts in the first 2 pages where people are complaining that GOM has changed things - your post is more about expressing disappointment - as you mentioned, when it was first sold, GSL Light has never included dual-stream and the advantage it gave over non-subscribers are HQ stream and HQ vods.
On February 07 2012 16:12 Kerwin wrote: I feel kinda ripped off... I'm a light user and I pay 20 bucks to watch just as many games live as someone who doesn't pay at all?
Edit: ooooooooh when did I get a shiny for adding stuff to liquipedia?
Edit again: I guess I won't be able to update the liquipedia tonight because I won't be able to watch the B Stream and would want to be spoiler-free until I can watch the uploaded games... guess I'll have to not pay attention to this thread or chat too... GOM makes me sad today
I'm not sure what you're complaining about... Light has always meant HQ but never dual-stream. I bought Premium with the expectation to watch dual-stream.
Today is the first day I'll ever not be able to watch dual-stream, and I've always paid the least amount I can for HQ live / VODs. I see now on the tickets page that 'Dual Streams' is listed under premium features, but it's kinda dumb for me to pay 20 extra bucks to watch 8 games live that I can otherwise watch on VODs later... just kinda disappointed because I'd like to watch those games live, but 20 bucks to do so is ridiculous.
I was more responding to previous posts in the first 2 pages where people are complaining that GOM has changed things - your post is more about expressing disappointment - as you mentioned, when it was first sold, GSL Light has never included dual-stream and the advantage it gave over non-subscribers are HQ stream and HQ vods.
Yeah, I'm also kinda disappointed at the fact that while I'll be able to watch the VODs after because that is part of my Light ticket... the results of the B Stream games will most likely be spoiled on the main stream.
On February 07 2012 15:17 Jisall wrote: Squitle Vs. Seal.
The Ultimate Showdown of Water Pokemon.
[insert photoshop] VS.
We shall see tonight who is truely the king of the Pokemon Stadium. Thats right for one night only folks, There is going to be bubble's popped, water gun's shot, hardened used, and an Aurora Beam of Death that could only come from the 40 Foot behemouths we call Collosus.
Edit: I need Resizing Images for dummies
How the heck could u leave out the STRONGEST water attack, Hydro Pump?
Accuracy. Competitive Pokemon player here, if you're running a sweeper that would OHKO things it wouldn't 2HKO with Surf, Hydro Pump can be okay, or if it's something that learns Hydro Pump but not Surf (ala Rotom-W), but other than that, only 8 uses and shitty accuracy means Surf > Hydro Pump. Also consider that most Water types are bulky so the extra power doesn't mean a whole lot.
tl;dr he should have mentioned Surf instead
LOL, I was gonna write up something along those lines, because Hydro Pump and Surf have the same effective power when accuracy is taken into account. But my assumption was that no one else on TL would care for a competitive pokémon discussion >.<
Considering how much I have managed to derail about pokemon in the past people are interested provided you don't go into the fifth gen meta game because it is clearly broken.