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On January 26 2012 15:10 phame21 wrote:
I think they should play HoTS. WoL has pretty much crappy gamebalance and consider the fact the sc1 was pretty much bummed out till BW started to balance things out. Also who's gonna be still playing WoL with HoTS out o_O?
You are talking about taking a game that's pretty balanced and switching it with a brand new game which will be very imbalanced when it's released. Ridiculous
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On January 26 2012 18:29 ReboundEU wrote:
Ah....from that point of view yea i understand what u ment....they are starting to take their own game seriously now :D
Regarding LoL... well.... sadly no comment. Next big thing Soliter Online..because 9 million secretaries all over the world cheer for it.
that's why eSports in general can't have good things, eSports =/= SC2 or LoL, eSports is all competitive games altogether. yes you can be sad that LoL is bigger than SC2 atm, but no suggest that it is bad.
enjoy and support SC2 so it can be the biggest without being elitist, because both require a different set of skills
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holy shit this looks fucking awesome
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holy wow, how have I not seen this before
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Will the process for qualifying for the World Championships be completely void of invitations? Will everyone have to go through the same process?
Ilja RotelliEverybody goes through the same process. Basically, we're trying to move away from the notion of invitationals that we used in 2011, and move into a transparent infrastructure that allows people from the outside to look in and say "Okay, if I want to go to World Championships, there's a path in front of me that allows me to qualify." It won't be Blizzard just picking people who are good for marketing purposes; it's really a sport.
this is the most promising side of this event. Now every major western tournament is invitational based tournament, result in 90% of same group of ppl playing each other again and again. You wont even notice if they switch the name of the tournament, coz they are all the same. New blood need to be brought to this industry if Blizzard really want to make it a 'sport'. It's true that invited players could attract a significant amount of viewers, but as time goes, fewer and fewer would stay. At the ends, without new blood, SC2 would die as the same way as Warcraft 3.
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I will be very very happy with this approach, if blizzard commits and follows through, that is. But really, it sounds similar to what I wanted and was hoping for around the time of the Nasl announcement. Grass Roots "Sports" instead of "Reddit-ish Market Appeal". Call me a a purist, but there is ALOT of fucking uninterested talent out there, and I hope that this helps show some of it off, or at least helps it grow. Shit like this is where you are going to get your foreigner heroes, ect.
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Well it looks to me that Blizzard made the right choice to have this tournament rather than BlizzCon!
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so basically hots is not coming for at least the better part of the year?
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Oh my goodness, this sounds HUGE.
Blizzard supporting eSports!
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"Open to working with exsisting eSport organizations" Uncharacteristic and yet fucking crazy potential..........
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This TOTALLY makes up for no blizzcon in 2012
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When the question was raised about there being no direction for how they want to make the ladder competitive again, I think they could do something great by bringing back the old Warcraft 3 Auto-Tournaments. Those were fun, low maintenance, and competitive. Sure they were only worth ladder icons, but it was something different from the same-old kind of "oh i got stream-sniped, I'm playing the same guy for the 6th time in a row" kind of thing.
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Why are so many people so bummed out that HotS won’t be the tournament game? WoL, while still not perfect, is as balanced as it’s ever been. Holding a tournament of this scale for a game that people would’ve only had a few months at best to prepare for is ridiculous, combined with the fact that it’ll probably be incredibly imbalanced when it’s released. Even after a year long beta and some 10+ patches prior to release just look at how much WoL 1.0 differs from WoL 1.4.2.
Also I think it’s very possible that the top tier WoL pros are likely to stay on for a long as they can (a-la Broodwar pros at the moment) before finally switching to HotS. Only the lower tier/”rising star” pros will make the switch to HotS as soon as it’s available.
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I'm glad Blizz understands the importance of having a sustainable business structure. I hate how DotA players keep trashing about how DotA is the biggest esport because Valve splashed out 1 mil for one of their tours.
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On January 27 2012 13:37 LastDance wrote:
I'm glad Blizz understands the importance of having a sustainable business structure. I hate how DotA players keep trashing about how DotA is the biggest esport because Valve splashed out 1 mil for one of their tours.
This is true. I think it`s WRONG for game companies to just splash money at their games to artificially inject a scene that would never be able to live up to what the company is shelling out. You only need to ask the fighting game community for what happens when the game companies stop the support. The scene can not sustain the level it was before and it`s almost impossible to revert to how things used to be because all your grassroot tournaments died in the process as well.
The competitive scene needs to be able to stand on it`s own even without the support of the game developer. They need to be independent of each other. A lot of things in eSports needs to go this way. Such as independent unbiased journalism and being less dependent for sponsors to run events.
Also people place too much emphasis on prize money. Right now it's nothing but padding their own e-peen. How many people watch the World Cup and think to themselves how much is winning team getting?( bet most people don't realize they have a prize pool) Same thing for NFL, NHL, or NBA championships. The fame and glory is all the matters to the players. And the spectacular conclusion of the rigorous tournament to the viewers.
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Having the tournaments be not about the prize pool is honorable and all...but having a huge prize pool could make for some interesting results/stories. It is amazing what people are capable of overcoming, for a huge sum of money. Especially when they are making a living for their destitute/sick families--even overcoming a Jaedong-esque player. Fruitdealer and MVP's stories come to mind---There's a tv movie in there somewhere. The underdog defeating a behemoth. But 25K for 1st prize is not bad..not bad a all. maybe next year, it could be bigger.
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This is great! Really pleased with the fact that they are sticking to WoL troughout the year. This sets precedence for other tourneys so the continue with the more balanced game (unless HoTS is balanced immediately upon release). If Blizzard somehow adapts decent map making to their "treating eSports as a sport and aspirational infrastructure", i will jump from joy. I somehow doubt it, and we'll have to see our favorite players battle it out on shitty imbalanced map. I dont wanna see ZvX close pos on LT in a world championship.
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