EPTNestea vs Naniwa Korean Twitterstorm - Page 42
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BurdNGoN
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Capiachi
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I wonder how Quantic and their sponsers would take this ? I would kick him out/stop sponsoring. Yes its a "dead" game, but your playing for respect and professionalism. And after saying sorry(which would fix this) he goes on to say its not a big deal.... This is why I think it will take time for esport to grow, because people & and alot of players dont understand how they got where they are; through sponsors and teams. This is why it should become more important to stay professional when on camera/events, because you will be showing f.e Intels trademark while saying/doing shit like this. | ||
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tykonn
United States3 Posts
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Arun
United States56 Posts
On December 15 2011 04:07 tykonn wrote: imo the problem is the fans pay money to see the game. im obviously a huge fan of starcraft, i bought the season ticket. i want to see the games play out since im not just checking the results instead of buying the ticket. and especially if im a big fan of naniwa in particular, which im not, but i am excited about him playing nestea. so hes out of this tournament? fine, i get to see him play one of the best, if not the best zerg in the world! nope, hes too mad. im glad im not a fan of his. Agreed, and couple that with the fact that he was an invite | ||
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ForJungSooYeon
Canada63 Posts
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phershey
United States61 Posts
Type "injured runner fini" into google. See what automatically pops up. To support what Naniwa did is to troll SC2 and the foundation BroodWar established for e-sports. There will be a percentage of people that will ask "why so serious??" They probably wouldn't understand why this guy finished a race he already got last place in. ![[image loading]](http://a.espncdn.com/i/page2/photos/040530redmond.jpg) They probably wouldn't understand why Boxer plays out games until every unit dies. They probably wouldn't understand why Artosis ranted about Starcraft being better than Zelda. They probably wouldn't understand why Artosis gets nerd chills and is almost brought to tears because of what Starcraft has become. People talk trash about Koreans. If it was up to a country full of Naniwas (and I'm not talking about Sweden) you all would be trolling on youtube and imdb because starcraft would be dead. The pride, respect, dedication and honor that Koreans have poured into this game has made an improbable situation a reality--they have made a video game a sport. Naniwa had an opportunity to give the foreign community one more foothold to catching up to the Koreans. All he had to do was give it his all and play a good game. Regardless of win or loss, I'm sure Nestea would have respected that. We all would have. Instead he cowered out. Now its just one more unspoken reason why Koreans will consider us amateurs, semi-pros at best. Every sport has its heroes that we rally behind. In most sports the community has a face. Basketball fans/players go to 24 fitness and play. You can't hide behind anonymity. The court is the forum. Unfortunately, the internet allows trolls to come out in full force. The fact that Nani trolled GSL and the whole SC2 community and that he has this much support for doing it is sad. I'm not talking about sympathizers that forgive him. Sure, we all deserve a second, or third chance. The fact that people don't see what's the problem and think it was a good move makes us look really bad. Definitely a step back for the foreigner community. | ||
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oBlade
Korea (South)5081 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:39 phershey wrote: This thread isn't this long because of Naniwa. It's because there are people supporting what he did. There is a difference between people supporting what he did and people having a sense of realism about how significant or understandable what he did was, or to what degree he's at fault for anything. It definitely doesn't help the game when the entire pro culture lambasts him like children just because it's the easy and popular opinion. I am not impressed by these responses. | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
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thejadegecko
United States8 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:30 Waxangel wrote: @oGsMC: I was really lost for words after watching today's game. Does he even know what the word "pro" is? My role model for professionalism is White-Ra. He really loves his fans, and doesn't give up his games until the end, and he's very mannered towards everyone. Does anyone dislike White-Ra? I hope Naniwa can look at White-Ra and change his mentality. I don't think it's right to do that, not considering your opponent at all. I wish he'd think about how he would have felt if I had gone 3-0 and confirmed #1 in my group, and he was 0-3, and I thought that since I'm 1st place nothing matters and just GG'd out of my game against him. Well, if you there's no big deal because there's no money on the the line, then I can't say anything to that, you're just not a pro. After seeing Naniwa, I thought HerO was all the more awesome for being so upset about losing his games yesterday. I hope a lot of players agree with this. White-Ra is a good rolemodel for players who like BM-ing tournaments and their staff -- and other players in general. | ||
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Smatin
United States34 Posts
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AssyrianKing
Australia2110 Posts
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Capiachi
78 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:17 oBlade wrote: There is a difference between people supporting what he did and people having a sense of realism about how significant or understandable what he did was, or to what degree he's at fault for anything. It definitely doesn't help the game when the entire pro culture lambasts him like children just because it's the easy and popular opinion. I am not impressed by these responses. Seems like you dont understand the implication this kind of behavior has(Naniwa, not the players slamming him). | ||
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Incursus
United States415 Posts
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:41 Itsmedudeman wrote: This.Sorry, but naniwa is a god damn moron. Not just for this, but the fact that he did it after he comes off just less than a month of like 5 controversial things. It's so fucking stupid to put yourself into a position like this and have any more shit on your record. I can't believe people are still defending him when he has a long, long history of this kind of stuff and this wasn't just a "1 time" or even "few time" thing. He really needs to learn to control himself and just suck it up for the same of his career. + if Any Korean manages to translate the stuff written on this thread, then the foreigner community is going to look like a bunch of disrespectful, amoral and cheeky netizens. I'm not even Korean and I see what Naniwa did to Korean E-sports. He made a fool of it. And he apologised. (sincere applause). Hope he remembers not to be outright rude towards his opponent, the competition and the fans. Well done Quantic Gaming / Naniwa for the clean-up afterwards. Thumbs down for the idiotic behaviour of angry-foreign-netizens afterwards. | ||
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Gurgl
Sweden308 Posts
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:39 phershey wrote: This thread isn't this long because of Naniwa. It's because there are people supporting what he did. Type "injured runner fini" into google. See what automatically pops up. To support what Naniwa did is to troll SC2 and the foundation BroodWar established for e-sports. There will be a percentage of people that will ask "why so serious??" They probably wouldn't understand why this guy finished a race he already got last place in. They probably wouldn't understand why Boxer plays out games until every unit dies. They probably wouldn't understand why Artosis ranted about Starcraft being better than Zelda. They probably wouldn't understand why Artosis gets nerd chills and is almost brought to tears because of what Starcraft has become. People talk trash about Koreans. If it was up to a country full of Naniwas (and I'm not talking about Sweden) you all would be trolling on youtube and imdb because starcraft would be dead. The pride, respect, dedication and honor that Koreans have poured into this game has made an improbable situation a reality--they have made a video game a sport. Naniwa had an opportunity to give the foreign community one more foothold to catching up to the Koreans. All he had to do was give it his all and play a good game. Regardless of win or loss, I'm sure Nestea would have respected that. We all would have. Instead he cowered out. Now its just one more unspoken reason why Koreans will consider us amateurs, semi-pros at best. Every sport has its heroes that we rally behind. In most sports the community has a face. Basketball fans/players go to 24 fitness and play. You can't hide behind anonymity. The court is the forum. Unfortunately, the internet allows trolls to come out in full force. The fact that Nani trolled GSL and the whole SC2 community and that he has this much support for doing it is sad. I'm not talking about sympathizers that forgive him. Sure, we all deserve a second, or third chance. The fact that people don't see what's the problem and think it was a good move makes us look really bad. Definitely a step back for the foreigner community. Aren't you overreacting.. A lot? Being pissed and purposely losing a game has almost 0 effect on esports as a whole. And Naniwa did 0 trolling. Do you even know what trolling is? | ||
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phershey
United States61 Posts
"Forced to play a game that didn't matter?" Before esports, there was sports. As a professional athlete they have to play games that are meanless. This weekend about 13 NFL teams are going to play meanless games. They are out of the playoffs, but they are expected to show up and play... Because it's their job. I think it only makes sense the GSL recinds its invite. We saw what Nani at the last invitation. How much fault is his? 100%. The format only breaks when someone doesn't play with honor or respect for the game. If we must make a rule that people must attempt to win, congrats to Nani for championing that rule through. Is that really what he wants his legacy to be? | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
He looks up to White Ra. ^__^ | ||
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Aurorajp
Canada43 Posts
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