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Blazinghand
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On December 07 2011 13:58 ey215 wrote:
I'd like to take the discussion in at least a mildly different direction and ask if we should be acting on the information we got by the mafia offing EB. Frankly, I was a little surprised they didn't go after Blazing unless they thought we'd have a medic and they'd be protecting him.
Also, do they want us lynching one of the three people (if I recall correctly) that EB had focused on or did they get rid of him to shut him up and keep him from persuading us?
Unfortunately, I'm not sure how much there is to gain from trying to analyze mafia night actions, just because they can be so confusing-- it can be classic WIFOM (wine in front of me, a reference to the circular logic of the mercenary's puzzle in the princess bride). Maybe EB was right on the money, maybe he wasn't. All we know now is that he was town.
Maybe they didn't go for me because they don't think I'll point in the right direction. Maybe I'm actually mafia and this is an elaborate ploy, so of course they can't go for me. Maybe I'm town and they're not shooting me to cast suspicion on me. Maybe there's a doctor and they think he's saving me (Mafia know which 2 blues are in the game).
In the end, we can't deduce anything from their actions because they know we will try to do so.
On December 07 2011 13:58 ey215 wrote:
I'm personally of the opinion that we should lynch the scummiest of jayb, xtf, or hassey and see where that leads us.
I agree with this, but corollary: we should just lynch the scummiest person in general, regardless of who EB thought was scum. It just so happens he and I agree on JB.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On December 07 2011 14:13 ey215 wrote:
On a side note, off to bed. I'll be back on after my final.
Good luck on the final! Make sure to read, analyze, and vote, and respond to allegations before the deadline.
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jay - to me jay is another one of those people who is being printed as scum based on the fact that he is opposed to BH in some aspect. I feel that he has provided some solid leads, but has to respond to the attacks by other more often then not. I feel like until he can get a few more unprovoked responses in until I can decide.
Turneg- he strikes me as more of a townie. I feel that in the early game he differed in his style vs BH. He instead of using more aggressive response posts, he looked at early posts and methodically made questions out of those. I feel like this is definitely more of a townie behavior. Early in the game he chose to start examining players right away, I feel that a mafia member would not have been able to think so quickly to implement a strategy as hard as this. These same questions have also put him in a bad spot as he is viewed as passively accusing, a behavior I feel is a bit scummy.
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Sorry I forgot to put these reads on my last post, after I realized that I forgot these two I did not have time to put them in.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On December 07 2011 14:50 BroodKingEXE wrote:
jay - to me jay is another one of those people who is being printed as scum based on the fact that he is opposed to BH in some aspect. I feel that he has provided some solid leads, but has to respond to the attacks by other more often then not. I feel like until he can get a few more unprovoked responses in until I can decide.
I was unaware that JB and I were in disagreement about something before i fingered him as scum. Quote plz
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I am going to focus on stuff jaybrundage said after the lynching of Bbyte because everything prior to that was covered in my first analysis:
On December 06 2011 09:45 jaybrundage wrote:
BH i cant even understand your post what the fuck is hedging lol. Half of your statements are me hedging someone. So plz tell me what it means
This is completely unnecessary posting, you could have easily looked this up for yourself but you are trying to play ignorant. I’ll save you that trip to google though and say it directly: you are being very non-committal in all of your posts. You are doing this so that when the people you implicate as mafia eventually flip town, you can say “oh, I wasn’t really sure and you can see that in my posts!!”
Sorry, not buying it. Own your reads. Support them with facts.
On December 06 2011 10:40 jaybrundage wrote:
Fuck
More vintage jay, posting shit for the sake of it. What purpose does this serve?
On December 07 2011 09:49 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 09:33 Blazinghand wrote:
FYI it's also everyone's fault the lynch went the wrong way, since we all failed to capture a majority. I'm just saying that if you have a solid read, you have a BIG responsibility to convince the rest of us. ESPECIALLY if you're right.
Also, most towns mislynch on the first day. Im going to write my post up on what i think went on this night. Sorry for being a bit inactive. I saw BH post about no posting and then was really busy so i didnt get around till now. But BH honestly i find this statement really suspicious. But BH you Succeded to capture the majority. You made the case against Bbyte and your case garnered the majority. It almost seems like your trying to take the chunk of responsibility off your back. I put down what i thought about adam. And said why i didnt like BBytes case. Im going back to make my posts about what else happened tonight. As well as response to your nice post about me. Thank you for that btw :D
I don’t find this statement suspicious from BH at all. It IS everyone’s fault that Bbyte ended up dead. We had 6 people follow BH’s invoking of a lurker lynch almost blindly, that is their failings and as BH has pointed out since, its also the failing of everyone else that none of us had put forward a compelling enough case to keep Bbyte off the hangman’s noose. Trying to shift attention onto BH here is not going to save you.
On December 07 2011 10:43 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +What adam said
So, I think he's vaguely scummy, and have vague sumreads on adam and BKEXE. However, his reasoning is completely shitty. The fact of the matter is Mafia will gladly distance themselves from each other in town discussions! Mafia will throw each other under the bus to appear innocent, or work together to make it look like they're not bussing, etc. The fact that Adam is scummy, and so is BKEXE, does NOT Make JB innocent-- that's a logical fallacy the kind of which gets towns buried. Im going to state this right now. My logic is completely sound and there is nothing wrong with it. What you are using is WIFOM for people not familiar with it hear is where it comes from. Link To be clear you could be right if me, Adam and BKEXE are scum then i could be trying to buss my teammate to gain town cred (although your forgetting one thing we don't know anyone's alignment till they flip so i would have to lynch adam to bus him which i would love to do btw). But if your using WIFOM logic i would know that bussing my teammate would be actually make me look mafia because they would think that bussing him would be a mafia thing to do. OR you could use WIFOM again and say i know that they know that they think i would be mafia to bus my teammate so i wont bus my teammate. WIFOM is good to think about occasionaly but to state that my logic is shit is just not true. You would just state that i could be using WIFOM. I hope that makes sense WIFOM is sometimes not easily understood for people not familiar with it. But at its simplest its just doing the not obvious thing to trick someone. Would i put a cup of poison in front of you to drink or closer to me so that you would take my cup. On another note EB you wrote you think im scum. Plz provide a case. Or what you say is useless
Firstly you’ve quoted something there saying “what adam said”, I never said anything close to any of that so you might want to figure out where the hell that all came from and try again.
You state that your logic is completely sound. Your logic on your case against me was shit and I called you out on it in my last analysis as a result. You pin terms on me like “flying under the radar” when I was the centre of attention for half the game or “apathetic”. Apathy is a lack of caring, google it when you’re done looking up hedging because my heated post aimed at BH was anything but apathetic, it showed I give a damn and I have a vested interest in seeing this town do well and was unimpressed with the state of the game.
Explaining what WIFOM is at this point seems wholly unnecessary and comes across as more filler from you, padding your posts out. That acronym has been thrown around so damn much this game that anyone who’s been even half reading this thread would have had to of googled it to find out what point anyone was trying to make if they didn’t know its meaning.
Asking EB to post a response after he died. I think BH said it all here, terrible ploy, really not well thought out at all.
On December 07 2011 10:56 jaybrundage wrote:
Briefly looking over you new case its pretty shitty with no content.
Nice use of caps to make it seem like you have a point. Your "core of your argument. Is also dumb is stated multiple times i did not like the Bbyte case. I'm not gonna let you steamroll the townies into another mislynch.
Ill give people some time to read my case before i comment again. I was not expecting EB to get killed i was thinking either BH Veli maybe Grack even. I really wish he had posted his case on me instead of his empty comment that he thinks I'm mafia.
Are you kidding? He’s spent hours looking at your filter and you “briefly look” at it. You might want to go back and examine the SHIT out of his case on you and start defending yourself properly. Calling his case “shit” is tantamount to saying “no u r”, it might have worked when you were 7, but its not flying here.
Is this a slip? “I'm not gonna let you steamroll the townies into another mislynch.”. You are part of the town… shouldn’t this read “im not going to let you steamroll us into another myslynch”, unless of course you don’t consider yourself part of the town.
On December 07 2011 11:58 jaybrundage wrote:
Why would you claim right now your giving mafia information that we dont want them to have.
And secondly if you dont post a case on me WITH YOUR OWN THOUGHTS we gonna have another mislynch with BH leading it.
You gotta stop sheeping Veli if you wanna give me your case give me YOUR case
Trying to deflect onto BH/Veli again? As has been pointed out, you didn’t read the OP before you wrote this, or you did and you just decided to play dumb. So you were either ignorant of the game rules or trying desperately to deflect attention onto anyone but yourself. WIFOM to analyze that but worth noting.
On December 07 2011 13:10 jaybrundage wrote:
Regardless i want to get more input from people before i start typing a case. Adam is still might have my vote but lets see what new information the new day brings
More stalling, coupled with more non-committal behaviour. You say not 2 hours earlier in the post where you were talking to dead EB: “so I would have to lynch adam to bus him which I would love to do btw”. If you would “love” to lynch me then why wait for more information on myself or anyone else. Formulate your case against me. You had better make it convincing, because all eyes are on you right now. I am highly interested to see the work of fiction that is your case, because as Day 1 proved, your first attempt was not convincing, even when I had 5 votes on me and I was the prime candidate for hanging.
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Sorry guys, did not realize I had already replace xsksc. Time to start reading through the whole thread and catch up with details and provide my own reads.
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Welcome to the party Starshard.
Finally someone around my timezone :>
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Just read up on this during lunch, and while just reading through it really fast I have to say that the case you guys are building on jay, and the reasoning behind it is thin. 3 votes allready? Was it the the kill on EB that changed your mind?Many thought my case on xsksc was thin, but this is thinner, and it allready have 3 votes.
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On December 07 2011 19:29 Adam4167 wrote:
Welcome to the party Starshard.
Finally someone around my timezone :>
Thank you.
Seems like the thread is pretty dead as we share different timezones with the others.
On December 07 2011 21:53 Tunkeg wrote:
Just read up on this during lunch, and while just reading through it really fast I have to say that the case you guys are building on jay, and the reasoning behind it is thin. 3 votes allready? Was it the the kill on EB that changed your mind?Many thought my case on xsksc was thin, but this is thinner, and it allready have 3 votes.
Yeah, I think that there really isn't much reasoning behind the call for Jay's lynch, despite that, we still have time and room for discussion to come up with a better list of scum reads, I have not read through the entire thread in detail so I shall reserve my vote for now, once I get back from party and start reading the thread in detail, then I would cast my vote. I hope that others will not jump on the bandwagon without providing any form of in depth analysis.
Also, keep in mind that we have 2 inactive players at the moment, it would be great if they get replaced by active individuals or start posting so that we can have more opinions.
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Hassybaby has been replaced by Bluelightz
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Hello guys, I'll be replacing hassybaby hopefully I can be more active  then him
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Well so after rereading alot.
And going through lots of filters. I have my thoughts on who i think is mafia. Try to have a open mind tho.
So at the start of the game BH has been a leading factor for this game.
Because of this and his very aggressive playstyle people began to follow him.
He the closest you can come to confirmed townie. And because of this people began sheeping to him. One of these people almost to a dot has been Veli.
The first person that noticed this trend was Adam.
On December 05 2011 01:38 Adam4167 wrote:
My thoughts on Blazinghands aggression so far is that I feel he is trying to generate discussion. However, I question whether he is trying too hard to establish himself as a townie by his badgering. This, coupled with his apparent buddy-buddy relationship with Velinath has me keeping a close eye on both of them as I find it strange that they are apparently “BFF’s” after only 12 hours of play. So to directly answer your question, Tunkeg, I find his behaviour suspicious and erring on the side of Anti-town. 5 separate votes in 12 hours is akin to spam and is just leading the town around in circles, rather than focusing on any one target.
You’ve caught my attention Blazinghand, don’t slip =).
Who then got voted for by BH first shortly followed by Veli. I did participate on the vote with adam however i gave my own reasoning. Instead of just hoping on the bandwagon.
Veli has had filler posts the entire game. following BH lead almost the entire game hear are some examples.
On December 04 2011 13:24 Velinath wrote:
EBWOP because you guys post too fast:
Blazinghand, I completely agree with your idea here. If we lack a case on a poster in the thread, lurkers are, regardless of alignment, anti-town, and they should be lynched in preference to a no-lynch.
Given that,
##Vote: Bbite
Let's hear from another nonposter.
On December 04 2011 14:34 Velinath wrote:
Blazinghand, that's a good point. It looks like all of the people who have not posted are probably doing so because of time zones.
As such, I'm dropping my vote (assuming I'm formatting properly!) and will put it back on if one of our four "lurkers" hasn't posted in the next 12-16 hours.
##Unvote: BByte
On December 04 2011 14:42 Velinath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 14:20 Blazinghand wrote:I want to hear what you have to say. Don't flop around like you did in your first post. Be a man. Do the right thing. Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 14:36 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Hey Blazinghand sorry if I came around to be a little shady.
I was just trying to feed into the conversation, about the voting. How do we want to plan the lynching with the time zone difference? I feel like this will be a major roadblock as it will be 12 AM for our friends in the UK.
As for my earlier comment I just wanted to say hi. Did not mean to get off on the wrong foot Hi,
this also feels noncontributive. I feel like what Blazinghand was looking for was more of an opinion on one of the matters we've been discussing in the thread. If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to hear what you have to say about the Lynch All Lurkers policy discussed a couple of pages back. Adding questions but no answers isn't really posting content, at least not in my eyes.
On December 05 2011 03:29 Velinath wrote:Whee, time to copy in my reads. Keeping a spreadsheet is going to be quite helpful, I think. Blazinghand: Feels very Townie to me. Posting reasonable content and post analysis already. Willing to take actions on his stances. Softclaimed Vanilla Townie http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291067¤tpage=8#152 Bringing lurkers out, which can ONLY help town. I approve. Call it 90% town. Also, his discussion with ey215 looked good, and convinced me further of his townieness.
On December 05 2011 08:53 Velinath wrote:
On Adam4167:
So far, two posts. I can see why everyone's suspicious of him - he made a mistake in attacking the most vocal (and, in some people's minds, most pro-town) player. That said, I feel like it could be just defensiveness to BH's style. I'll have to wait for more posts, but for now he's just made my watchlist.
Alot of Veli's post where filler and have been following BH in almost everycase.
The other big factor to my case is the mislynch of Bbyte. I do agree that he was lurking a good bit. However what was one of is contribitions. Well lets look back.On December 05 2011 09:20 BByte wrote:My strongest scum read so far is Velinath. He has been active (very much so actually), but what has he contributed? Some policy discussion, a bit of finger pointing (mostly to spark activity), some fluff. Mostly he has been following other people's ideas, not making his own calls. All of this is something scum could easily do with very little risk.Then there are a couple of posts of light analysis. His "reads post" sums it up best: + Show Spoiler +On December 05 2011 03:29 Velinath wrote:Whee, time to copy in my reads. Keeping a spreadsheet is going to be quite helpful, I think. Blazinghand: Feels very Townie to me. Posting reasonable content and post analysis already. Willing to take actions on his stances. Softclaimed Vanilla Townie http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291067¤tpage=8#152 Bringing lurkers out, which can ONLY help town. I approve. Call it 90% town. Also, his discussion with ey215 looked good, and convinced me further of his townieness. BroodKingEXE: Empty post. Worries me.Feels scummy but could be a noob. Amend: Six posts that don't sit right with me, but again, could be new player. xkskc: Leaning town for now. Started our policy discussion. Discussion is good. While he disagrees with BH's methods, I clearly feel like he's playing a townie game right now. Different methodolgy, same goal. To note, he pointed out that there may be mafia in the group leadership., which should be something to keep in mind. Question is whether it's sowing suspicion or genuine pro-town, and I haven't figured that out yet. xtfftc: Null read. He argued against LAL and LALurkers, and I don't wanna go with that. Let's look again once he posts again. (Amend: Looked through his filter to update this post, and I really liked his post here. Still a null read, but this feels positive to me.) ey215: Pointed out some good things. He sees Blazinghand's methods as creating tension within the town, and that's fine - he's entitled to opinion. Like xkskc, he disagrees with methods but seems to be working towards the same goal. Their discussion, while heated, really brought out to me that they both seem very town-aligned, and willing to take positions and defend them. EB: Makes good points. At this point I'm leaning town, simply because he's pro-discussion this early. That said I'd love to see more posts here. Tunkeg: Posted his reads, and is encouraging discussion. I think this is a good thing, and might peg him as one of the influential voices in the town soon. Largely a null read, but I'm starting to lean town. BByte: I'm not totally impressed yet. One post about breadcrumbs (which is more about the game in general than a content post) and one post about a couple of the players. That post was good, and I agree that we shouldn't be intimidated by one person, but I'd like to see more. jaybrundage: Neutral for now, but a lack of content disturbs me. We've still got like 30 hours though. Adam4167: Two posts, neither of which hugely impress me. I liked how he went through and stated a clear opinion on BH's play. While I disagree with his opinion, I think that the way he put things is pro-town in that post. I'd love to see more content here, but so far looks pretty good. Hassybaby: Disagrees with early targets, and I can see why. I think he is overly defensive towards Tunkeg - not an OMGUS vote, but definitely that kind of idea. Not sure what to think, but this early just a null read. Grackaroni: Posted reads, but before that there's a bunch of policy posts. Not that I haven't made a ton of policy posts too, but I'll wait for more content. Null read.
On December 06 2011 09:18 BByte wrote:Okay, back home and (re-)reading the thread. Boy did I pick up a bad day to be AFK. First note: There's a reason a day lasts 48 hours. The first vote on me was made 9 hours ago, roughly 10 hours before the lynch deadline. Second note: I stand by my earlier statement: There are no real lurkers in this game. Instead of voting based on activity, I'd prefer a vote based on the actual content of the posts. For the people who are voting me: In case there are any specific questions that you'd like for me to answer, please post them and I'll give what answers I can. Whether my answers will be enough to convince you to vote someone else is up to you. Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 00:31 Velinath wrote:Alright, that's fair Grack - but let's look at BByte. He posts once a few times 17 hours ago, comes back 8 hours ago to post one thing. He states in the thread that he'd post thoughts if needed, but he hasn't done that - a couple sentences here or there. I did however state that I'd be extremely busy with work today. It's only 9 hours since the first vote on me. That's not really enough time to expect someone to be able to answer. Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 03:35 Blazinghand wrote:
As you can see, he's got a vote on velinath, and hasn't made a serious argument. Velinath's arguments on his scumlist might have been vague, but since then, velinath has made a liberal outpouring of posts and BByte remains silent. I don't know who's mafia, but I know we need more commitment than that out of our townies, and BByte's soft case and small vote count make it seem like he's hiding something. How exactly is my vote suspicious? I posted my read (which was against pretty much everyone else, is that mafia behavior?) and I perhaps didn't articulate my case as well as I should have, but what am I hiding? For my activity see above and my previous posts. I also find weird from a quick skim through the posts since the last I've read the thread that no one has actually even commented on the actual content of my accusation on Velinath. What do people think about his posting, especially up to the point I accused him? Was / am I sure he's scum? No, but at least my vote was based on a read instead of a non-read. The post I made about the case was perhaps "half-assed" in hindsight. I did spend a lot of time reading and analyzing, but not enough time in forming my case to a coherent post. Also I didn't use nearly enough quotes.
And he gets tagged team by the duo of Veli and BH. He tries to post to defend himself. Tries to show that what he did wasn't scummy. He posted his reads more then some of the people in this thread. After he knows that he is gonna get lynched he posts this.
On December 06 2011 09:59 BByte wrote:
Okay, so it seems I'm about to be lynched. Unfortunately I was pretty much MIA today, and wasn't able to respond to the case (or lack thereof) made against me.
I've tried to post honestly and openly. What I've said so far I still think is pro-town. Apart from that, I'd like the town to note two additional people:
Blazinghand: He has been very active and vocal so far. That paints him as town. However, he could have made all the posts nearly as easily if he were scum. To the townies: Please hold him up to the high standard he has presented so far. He still might be scum, just well hidden in plain sight. He was also the second guy to vote for my lynch.
xtfftc: Some scum vibes off him, not enough time to post an actual case.
He posted a case on Veli and was soon voted for by BH and ofc Veli followed like he always does. The reason that adam got off the hook was because he did not continue pursuing BH and Veli.
Also remember the sharade that happened with EB. He was going to post a reason why hassybaby was a lynch candadite and did not want to put his vote in because he did not have time to write it up ( he did not say this at the time) But BH could not stand someone stand up to him. He went out and called him anti town and wanted everyone to vote him. This is one part
On December 05 2011 11:01 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 10:58 ElectricBlack wrote:On December 05 2011 10:50 Blazinghand wrote:On December 05 2011 10:47 Velinath wrote:On December 05 2011 10:43 Blazinghand wrote:On December 05 2011 10:42 Blazinghand wrote:On December 05 2011 10:40 ElectricBlack wrote:
I'd be much more comfortable lynching Hassybaby than any of the current candidates. I need to go to sleep now (it's well past midnight over here), I'll give details as for why this is in the morning. No. Vote. Don't wait, don't delay-- it's anti-town to do so. Cast your vote, even if you don't have time to explain. Actually, this delay is more anti-town than Adam's amazing inactivity. It's anti-worthful, rather than just worthless. ##Vote ElectricBlackVote or die. I disagree with this. He's made a stance, and he'll post information when he has time. I'm okay with that. If he doesn't post his reasoning, then I'll be concerned, but for now I'm willing to wait for that. My point is that he has said who he'd be comfortable voting for. He said he's comfortable voting for Hassybaby, but he's obviously not-- he didn't take the 2-3 seconds to type in his vote. He's leading us by the nose. He's hiding behind the excuse of sleep to avoid an explanation, which I might buy. But to avoid slapping down a simple vote? No, this isn't normal. this is anti-town and I will not stand for it. Think about it-- if he's town, his actions don't make sense at all. Why not slap down the vote? If he's mafia his actions make perfect sense. Now I'm not gonna vote him until the morning just to spite you. I will vote in my own time when I can explain in detail why and how I came to the conclusion. In addition I still have a few people to read up on and form an opinion on, so I might not even end up voting Hassybaby when it comes to it. Ladies and gentlemen, case closed. EB's just trying to spite me? Trying to spite THE TOWN? We need him out. He's worse than a lurker.
Look how it went for trying to spite BH to spiting the town. EB was not spiting the town he was doing it because BH was being pushy and a bully and he would not stand for it.
So after Bbyte mislynch he posts this little gem.
On December 07 2011 09:33 Blazinghand wrote:
FYI it's also everyone's fault the lynch went the wrong way, since we all failed to capture a majority. I'm just saying that if you have a solid read, you have a BIG responsibility to convince the rest of us. ESPECIALLY if you're right.
Also, most towns mislynch on the first day.
He tries to take all of the blame off himself.
He states its everyones fault the lynch went wrong today
AND I QUOTE since WE all failed to capture a majority
He REFUSES to take responsibility for HIS mislynch. He even has the audacity to blame the town. and then ends it with most towns mislynch first day.
He tries to throw a pitiful bandaid on it
And then when i call him out on it.
On December 07 2011 09:49 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 09:33 Blazinghand wrote:
FYI it's also everyone's fault the lynch went the wrong way, since we all failed to capture a majority. I'm just saying that if you have a solid read, you have a BIG responsibility to convince the rest of us. ESPECIALLY if you're right.
Also, most towns mislynch on the first day. Im going to write my post up on what i think went on this night. Sorry for being a bit inactive. I saw BH post about no posting and then was really busy so i didnt get around till now. But BH honestly i find this statement really suspicious. But BH you Succeded to capture the majority. You made the case against Bbyte and your case garnered the majority. It almost seems like your trying to take the chunk of responsibility off your back. I put down what i thought about adam. And said why i didnt like BBytes case. Im going back to make my posts about what else happened tonight. As well as response to your nice post about me. Thank you for that btw :D
He comes back at me with this
On December 07 2011 10:13 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 09:49 jaybrundage wrote:On December 07 2011 09:33 Blazinghand wrote:
FYI it's also everyone's fault the lynch went the wrong way, since we all failed to capture a majority. I'm just saying that if you have a solid read, you have a BIG responsibility to convince the rest of us. ESPECIALLY if you're right.
Also, most towns mislynch on the first day. Im going to write my post up on what i think went on this night. Sorry for being a bit inactive. I saw BH post about no posting and then was really busy so i didnt get around till now. But BH honestly i find this statement really suspicious. But BH you Succeded to capture the majority. You made the case against Bbyte and your case garnered the majority. It almost seems like your trying to take the chunk of responsibility off your back. I put down what i thought about adam. And said why i didnt like BBytes case. Im going back to make my posts about what else happened tonight. As well as response to your nice post about me. Thank you for that btw :D what the dicks is this
scum scum scum
Thats the most cohherent response he has? Really?
What the dicks is this
Wow.
Also as a side note. After BH posts his case on me ofc Veli follows like he always does. With no real content of his own.
The funniest part is that he even states im not his strongest scum read. But he follows BH like he always does.
On December 07 2011 12:37 Velinath wrote:
Hi Blazing. My best scumread is still Hassybaby right now, as per my comment from the middle of Day 1 (after EB posted that he would post a case the next morning) and later, EB's case that went through the points I made as well as additional points. That said, I'm reluctant to push him as a lynch target until he gets replaced and his replacement shows up - or he comes back from AFK, one of the two.
This is my case I would suggest everyone go back and reread with this is mind and look at how Bbyte was Mislynched.
Thank you for your time I would be open to vote for either as i think there both scum Veli or BH
For now im voting for Veli because thats who BByte wanted to lynch and he ended up getting mislynched.
##Vote Velinath
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PS: if i don't post much it's because I don't really have a good scumread on anyone if I do I'll post my analysis
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Jay,
If I am sheeping BH why was I the first one to post content on Hassybaby and the first one to vote BByte? Yes it was a mislynch but given the evidence I stand by the decision to vote him as he was the most solid lynch target right now.
As I said I want to hear from Hassy's replacement first before I consider him as a lynch target. His replacement hasn't really had a chance to post yet and there isn't enough content to justify a lynch yet.
You, on the other hand? You were scumslipping all over the place at the beginning of today, your posts after the last night post were unconvincing at best and scummy at worst...I don't really know what more to say. If you really want me to put together a case, I will once I have a free moment - headed to class in 5 minutes or so, but I should be able to get one done today.
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I would also add that you're just straight up lying when you say that BByte posted more reads than anyone in the thread. He posted a weak read on me, one on BH, a weak read on BKEXE, and one on xtfftc. Everyone else, to my knowledge, has posted a full list of reads. The post you quoted of him justifying his case and vote on me came AFTER his lynch was essentially locked in, and I did not label him scum as far as I know. I stated that he was lurking, and that lurking was anti-town play.
He posted a case on Veli and was soon voted for by BH and ofc Veli followed like he always does
Again, I voted BByte before BH did. Your case is full of lies and mischaracterizations. BByte posted a weak case and didn't justify it for quite some time. He didn't provide thoughts on the debate like he said he was going to, and he lurked all day.
You argue that I'm sheeping. Have you been reading the last half of the thread where I've been providing discussion points and reasoning for other mislynches? If you're basing what you're saying off of BByte's case, keep in mind that other people have already pointed out that I've been providing good post content since that case was posted.
This just feels like a scummy attempt to deflect attention from yourself. If you don't think my vote was justified before it certainly is now.
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ebwop: other mislynches: I spent post content justifying adam's position against BH early whenn people were voting him in response to his aggression towards BH, and questioned the short list of people who had early suspicions of xkskc. (I still have suspicions of xkskc, but we'll see how that turns out). Short version is that I have been taking stances against popular lynch targets including some trains led by BH.
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Sry for my absence so far in day2, I've been pretty busy.
I need some time to catch up with the thread and then I will give you my opinions.
I have plenty of time to play today so if you want my comments on something I'll answer them.
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