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On November 11 2011 08:52 iSTime wrote: Probably the only player you can consistently outplay in multiple macro games and still get told you deserve a bullet in the head by.
Spot on
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zilea, did valrath ever become a sc2 pro?
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Zilea is pretty much the best representation of the WoW arena community, where oneself is never the problem it is always the game/your teammates/the opponents op race or class and you yourself is always right. If all else fail call your opponent/teammates bad and jump to a new team.
Zilea the only good i have ever seen you produce is juking that gay ass TSG team in Blizzcon while having like 5% hp, that was boss i'll admit that. Other then that, WoW was an easy game and doesn't exactly give alot of bragging rights, the WoW community is also a cesspool if idiots, BM, trolls and flamers - SC community is not like this. So if you want some sort of recognition here, start over.
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Saw the name and thought it said zileas and went all fuzzy inside and immediately came in to find teh stream so i can favourite it, then arrive at 20 pages wow hate/rage discussion.
Best of luck streaming i guess, and if you want to become a big deal and be respected in the sc2 community a good first step would be to stop raging. People who rage are generally viewed as inferior players by the community as a whole.
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Copycat name to one of the most famous pioneers of protoss in SC
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I've acknowledged that the 'hateful' bm wasn't funny and was really disrespectful, and I have started to really stop doing it, but that doesn't mean I won't bm.
Anyway, I am making a serious attempt to become a strong Zerg player, which is why I really would love to have high master Z/GM zerg come to my stream so that I can get serious critique of what I could do differently when I lose.
As for people claim my play is poor, I beg to disagree in the sense that I'm the top 1% of the SC2 community. Most people are bronze, plat, diamond, whatever, and I'm not too far off from contending for GM. That's a good accomplishment for somebody that isn't trying to go professional. When I do get GM I hope to get much less of these type of comments, but I know the "flaming" that is done in the online community; I got it in WoW, and I will get it in SC2, unfortunately.
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On November 12 2011 09:32 Zilea wrote: I've acknowledged that the 'hateful' bm wasn't funny and was really disrespectful, and I have started to really stop doing it, but that doesn't mean I won't bm.
Anyway, I am making a serious attempt to become a strong Zerg player, which is why I really would love to have high master Z/GM zerg come to my stream so that I can get serious critique of what I could do differently when I lose.
As for people claim my play is poor, I beg to disagree in the sense that I'm the top 1% of the SC2 community. Most people are bronze, plat, diamond, whatever, and I'm not too far off from contending for GM. That's a good accomplishment for somebody that isn't trying to go professional. When I do get GM I hope to get much less of these type of comments, but I know the "flaming" that is done in the online community; I got it in WoW, and I will get it in SC2, unfortunately. Hey Zilea. You probably know who I am.
I've been watching your stream alot and I just want to tell you one thing. Your ego needs to go. You blame everything on anything except for yourself. You can't handle that YOU'RE that problem. This is very important to get better. I look forward to seeing you reach GM and climb the ranks, but your ego needs to go. Please don't hate me for this.
Much love and I will continue to follow you.
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Just played him twice on ladder. He bmed me about me having lower rating than him, when I actually had MORE LADDER POINTS LOOOOOOOOL. Anyways, absolutely bad player. Don't watch his stream, he uses terrible builds like 13pool 13 gas and 6 pool with poor execution, and then gets angry at his opponents for no reason.
Edit: To clarify i won both times, cause this guy is really bad at this game and just mass ladders.
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Too true. I mean, I beat the guy. Anyone I can beat should not consider himself one of the best players in SC2.
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On November 18 2011 12:06 .Sic. wrote: Just played him twice on ladder. He bmed me about me having lower rating than him, when I actually had MORE LADDER POINTS LOOOOOOOOL. Anyways, absolutely bad player. Don't watch his stream, he uses terrible builds like 13pool 13 gas and 6 pool with poor execution, and then gets angry at his opponents for no reason.
Edit: To clarify i won both times, cause this guy is really bad at this game and just mass ladders.
i dont get angry at my opponents. When I'm tilted (I had just lost 3 games in a row to cheese) I will BM. Don't take it personally.
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Yo Zilea, I know you've been ragged on enough throughout this thread so I will not add more fuel to the fire.
However I have a serious question and I seriously hope you don't ignore my post out of spite and just answer my question.
I am 100% behind you when you say you are trying to become more mannered, and less affected by rage. Kudos, this is a very hard barrier to overcome, tons of players still get deeply frustrated about things and want to find things to blame it on that isn't themself. You also say your BM is more trolling and more to just entertain your viewers, which is (to some extent) acceptable as well.
However, my question is this: If you have no intention of going pro, if you have no intention of making a living out of this game, and if everyone who knows your name knows these thigns about you, then WHY do you still, to this day, continue to brag about being paid to play this game? Nobody believes you and I can not for the life of me see the entertainment value in watching you lose and then start going on about how you have a salary for playing sc2. Where is the logic in this? Nobody including yourself believes this and it is not exactly entertaining, so what is the reasoning behind not stopping?
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On November 25 2011 04:41 Naeroon wrote: Yo Zilea, I know you've been ragged on enough throughout this thread so I will not add more fuel to the fire.
However I have a serious question and I seriously hope you don't ignore my post out of spite and just answer my question.
I am 100% behind you when you say you are trying to become more mannered, and less affected by rage. Kudos, this is a very hard barrier to overcome, tons of players still get deeply frustrated about things and want to find things to blame it on that isn't themself. You also say your BM is more trolling and more to just entertain your viewers, which is (to some extent) acceptable as well.
However, my question is this: If you have no intention of going pro, if you have no intention of making a living out of this game, and if everyone who knows your name knows these thigns about you, then WHY do you still, to this day, continue to brag about being paid to play this game? Nobody believes you and I can not for the life of me see the entertainment value in watching you lose and then start going on about how you have a salary for playing sc2. Where is the logic in this? Nobody including yourself believes this and it is not exactly entertaining, so what is the reasoning behind not stopping?
I think you just read everybodies mind...
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My friend vVvNgry (who at one point had one of the strongest macro/non cheezy ZvT's in NA) played zilea on a smurf. In a 30+ minute macro game, he beat him with only marines and macro, he maybe made a couple medivacs/tanks at the very end by the time zilea was on hive. Zilea would send his whole army to stop like 5 marines that were going around killing tumors, and then get his 3rd and nat attacked by marines cleaning up his drones (no dropping, straight up running marines around.) And zilea told him he's awful and a cheater and needs to be shot, it was hilarious. Zilea went ling/infestor/BL and lost to straight up marines. He couldn't even keep a 3rd base alive, by the time T was taking his 5th.
Anyway moral of the story: this guy has a big ego, is a bad player and very BM and should probably be banned from streaming on TL like combatex was.
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On November 30 2011 11:08 hunts wrote: My friend vVvNgry (who at one point had one of the strongest macro/non cheezy ZvT's in NA) played zilea on a smurf. In a 30+ minute macro game, he beat him with only marines and macro, he maybe made a couple medivacs/tanks at the very end by the time zilea was on hive. Zilea would send his whole army to stop like 5 marines that were going around killing tumors, and then get his 3rd and nat attacked by marines cleaning up his drones (no dropping, straight up running marines around.) And zilea told him he's awful and a cheater and needs to be shot, it was hilarious. Zilea went ling/infestor/BL and lost to straight up marines. He couldn't even keep a 3rd base alive, by the time T was taking his 5th.
Anyway moral of the story: this guy has a big ego, is a bad player and very BM and should probably be banned from streaming on TL like combatex was.
more attnetion u give him, more power he gets....same as in WoW!
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i've played zilea like five times on ladder and he bmed and called me a cheeser most of them, when i never cheesed him once. he seems to nydus vs protoss ffes like 90% of the time? lol
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i stopped nydusing against protoss like a month ago...
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On November 30 2011 17:27 Zilea wrote: i stopped nydusing against protoss like a month ago...
lol, http://drop.sc/66960
You're a decent player but please cut down on the bm.
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On December 01 2011 12:42 coL.rsvp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 17:27 Zilea wrote: i stopped nydusing against protoss like a month ago... lol, http://drop.sc/66960You're a decent player but please cut down on the bm.
like i've said before the bm is reactionary and you shouldn't take offense to it. it's something that carried over from my WoW days
User was temp banned for this post.
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On December 02 2011 20:21 Zilea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 12:42 coL.rsvp wrote:On November 30 2011 17:27 Zilea wrote: i stopped nydusing against protoss like a month ago... lol, http://drop.sc/66960You're a decent player but please cut down on the bm. like i've said before the bm is reactionary and you shouldn't take offense to it. it's something that carried over from my WoW days
So if you're raised poorly you can never have manners either? Stop using 'what carried over' as an excuse and get over yourself. I seriously opened your stream and within 2 minutes you were whining about how killing overlords is imbalanced and how your opponent is garbage for doing it.
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On December 06 2011 22:13 Serelitz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2011 20:21 Zilea wrote:On December 01 2011 12:42 coL.rsvp wrote:On November 30 2011 17:27 Zilea wrote: i stopped nydusing against protoss like a month ago... lol, http://drop.sc/66960You're a decent player but please cut down on the bm. like i've said before the bm is reactionary and you shouldn't take offense to it. it's something that carried over from my WoW days So if you're raised poorly you can never have manners either? Stop using 'what carried over' as an excuse and get over yourself. I seriously opened your stream and within 2 minutes you were whining about how killing overlords is imbalanced and how your opponent is garbage for doing it.
That's entertaining value imho lol
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