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On November 29 2011 06:00 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2011 05:42 IGNProLeague wrote: compLexity MVP are allowed to use players from both compLexity and MVP, and Quantic IM may use players from both Quantic and IM. Team Liquid is on their own, without oGs players. This is just due to the nature of these specific team partnerships. Out of curiosity, how exactly is this nature of partnerships determined or even known by a third party organization like IPL? Do you just go by what has been said in the public announcements or do the teams themselves decide what kind of roster they will use or do you have insight in the partnership contracts? When you use the term "allowed", it would just be nice to know what the exact criteria is. The way you phrased it, that criteria is suspicious to say the least. I'm pretty sure Liquid would go alone anyway, but oGs-TL was already an official GSTL team so I find it weird that they wouldn't be allowed by some tournaments to compete as a single team again if they chose to do so. This.
I'm very confused by this, as oGs-TL appears, to me at least, to have the best partnership when it comes to things like this, having already competed under the same banner in the GSTL.
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Looking forward to it. Good going IPL!
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On November 29 2011 06:00 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2011 05:42 IGNProLeague wrote: compLexity MVP are allowed to use players from both compLexity and MVP, and Quantic IM may use players from both Quantic and IM. Team Liquid is on their own, without oGs players. This is just due to the nature of these specific team partnerships. Out of curiosity, how exactly is this nature of partnerships determined or even known by a third party organization like IPL? Do you just go by what has been said in the public announcements or do the teams themselves decide what kind of roster they will use or do you have insight in the partnership contracts? When you use the term "allowed", it would just be nice to know what the exact criteria is. The way you phrased it, that criteria is suspicious to say the least. I'm pretty sure Liquid would go alone anyway, but oGs-TL was already an official GSTL team so I find it weird that they wouldn't be allowed by some tournaments to compete as a single team again if they chose to do so. When sending invitations, we asked Team Liquid as an individual team if they would like to participate, and they accepted. In the future, if they want to attend as a combination of oGs and Team Liquid, we will allow it. It just didn't happen for this tournament.
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On November 29 2011 06:09 IGNProLeague wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2011 06:00 Talin wrote:On November 29 2011 05:42 IGNProLeague wrote: compLexity MVP are allowed to use players from both compLexity and MVP, and Quantic IM may use players from both Quantic and IM. Team Liquid is on their own, without oGs players. This is just due to the nature of these specific team partnerships. Out of curiosity, how exactly is this nature of partnerships determined or even known by a third party organization like IPL? Do you just go by what has been said in the public announcements or do the teams themselves decide what kind of roster they will use or do you have insight in the partnership contracts? When you use the term "allowed", it would just be nice to know what the exact criteria is. The way you phrased it, that criteria is suspicious to say the least. I'm pretty sure Liquid would go alone anyway, but oGs-TL was already an official GSTL team so I find it weird that they wouldn't be allowed by some tournaments to compete as a single team again if they chose to do so. When sending invitations, we asked Team Liquid as an individual team if they would like to participate, and they accepted. In the future, if they want to attend as a combination of oGs and Team Liquid, we will allow it. It just didn't happen for this tournament.
Ah okay, that makes sense.
Thanks for the clarification.
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On November 29 2011 06:09 IGNProLeague wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2011 06:00 Talin wrote:On November 29 2011 05:42 IGNProLeague wrote: compLexity MVP are allowed to use players from both compLexity and MVP, and Quantic IM may use players from both Quantic and IM. Team Liquid is on their own, without oGs players. This is just due to the nature of these specific team partnerships. Out of curiosity, how exactly is this nature of partnerships determined or even known by a third party organization like IPL? Do you just go by what has been said in the public announcements or do the teams themselves decide what kind of roster they will use or do you have insight in the partnership contracts? When you use the term "allowed", it would just be nice to know what the exact criteria is. The way you phrased it, that criteria is suspicious to say the least. I'm pretty sure Liquid would go alone anyway, but oGs-TL was already an official GSTL team so I find it weird that they wouldn't be allowed by some tournaments to compete as a single team again if they chose to do so. When sending invitations, we asked Team Liquid as an individual team if they would like to participate, and they accepted. In the future, if they want to attend as a combination of oGs and Team Liquid, we will allow it. It just didn't happen for this tournament. To be honest i would doubt TL would use the oGs players (its not their style. Well maybe max 1 and definitely not MC) but they should be allowed such a possiblity at least.
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On November 29 2011 06:09 IGNProLeague wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2011 06:00 Talin wrote:On November 29 2011 05:42 IGNProLeague wrote: compLexity MVP are allowed to use players from both compLexity and MVP, and Quantic IM may use players from both Quantic and IM. Team Liquid is on their own, without oGs players. This is just due to the nature of these specific team partnerships. Out of curiosity, how exactly is this nature of partnerships determined or even known by a third party organization like IPL? Do you just go by what has been said in the public announcements or do the teams themselves decide what kind of roster they will use or do you have insight in the partnership contracts? When you use the term "allowed", it would just be nice to know what the exact criteria is. The way you phrased it, that criteria is suspicious to say the least. I'm pretty sure Liquid would go alone anyway, but oGs-TL was already an official GSTL team so I find it weird that they wouldn't be allowed by some tournaments to compete as a single team again if they chose to do so. When sending invitations, we asked Team Liquid as an individual team if they would like to participate, and they accepted. In the future, if they want to attend as a combination of oGs and Team Liquid, we will allow it. It just didn't happen for this tournament.
So, does this mean you asked QxG if they wanted to participate with IM, same with complexity and MVP?
If so, that seems kind of weird to ask those two teams and not Liquid.
edit: I am not saying Liquid would accept or need it or anything. I am just wondering why you would give a privilege to two teams, but not a third, if what I ask is true.
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We asked each team separately, and they agreed with each other to play under one banner as they are technically partnered to be the same team. coLMVP and QIM are two competing teams, not four separate teams. There are only 8 spots available, so it makes sense for these partnered teams to combine for the sake of inclusion.
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Awesome! If EG aren't there, I gotta root for Mouz, but GL to everyone involved.
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Very nice, but why no Empire?
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let´s go , let´s go , MOUZ go!
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going to be a slayers vs IM finals. epicness.
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On November 29 2011 06:22 dAPhREAk wrote: going to be a slayers vs IM finals. epicness. Isn't that what people said about GSTL? XD
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Getting my GSTL fix in the off-season, aw yeah!
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The results will depend on how series the Korean counterparts of the teams will take it. If they decide to send their b-teamers to give them a bit more airing time, the non-Korean teams will definitely have a shot!
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On November 29 2011 06:25 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2011 06:22 dAPhREAk wrote: going to be a slayers vs IM finals. epicness. Isn't that what people said about GSTL? XD of the four GSTLs, Slayers has been in the finals for two, IM has been in the finals for two, and one final was slayers vs. IM. I think there is a good change this finals will be slayers vs IM because there are fewer korean teams. however, MVP (who was also in the finals for two GSTLs) will give them a run for their money. we'll see though.
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Nice! Go Slayers go! Best team in the world!
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On November 29 2011 06:25 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2011 06:22 dAPhREAk wrote: going to be a slayers vs IM finals. epicness. Isn't that what people said about GSTL? XD Yeah, then SlayerS made some poor decisions in sending out people during Season 1. Hopefully, this time around, we see an epic (eg?)SlayerS vs QIM finals.
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On November 29 2011 06:20 stichtom wrote: Very nice, but why no Empire?
Think about it, there are only 8 spots available and although Empire is one of the best foreign teams in team competitions, they are also probably the one who pulls the least amount of viewers since I'd consider them still as one of the lesser known teams, at least in the NA scene (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm simply assuming). It's no surprise that IGN wants to go with Millenium, ReIGN, Liquid or dignitas.
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Same old map pool. Disappointing, given you just did that new map tournament.
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With no GSL aside from the Blizzard Cup, and a prize pool comparable to the GSTL open seasons, I think we might see more A-teamers from Slayers and QIM. Slayers-QIM finals!
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