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KevinBacon
Portugal48 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On November 08 2011 23:53 KevinBacon wrote: Ron Paul is not electable because most people are dumb and are afraid of change specially when it comes to this issues like drug legalization that they have been brainwashed to fear since they were born. I didn't realize generalization of an entire group of people who are against a particular candidate into "dumb sheep who are against drug legalization" was a valid argument point but thanks for bringing it to my attention! /sarcasm There are a multitude of reasons for why people would be against Ron Paul and drug legalization is just one of the drops into that bucket | ||
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jackalope1234
122 Posts
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nathangonmad
United Kingdom316 Posts
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Krikkitone
United States1451 Posts
On November 09 2011 00:31 nathangonmad wrote: It was to my understanding Obama is the most popular president since Clinton, do you guys think he's not going to get a second term? The economy is terrible (it Could be worse, but it could always be worse), and the government is in massive debt partially due to having bailed out major corporations. Not to mention he 'lost' the elections in 2010. He Might get reelected, but he's not popular (even on the left, many think he wasn't 'left' enough) | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On November 09 2011 00:31 nathangonmad wrote: It was to my understanding Obama is the most popular president since Clinton, do you guys think he's not going to get a second term? He was extremely popular back when he was speaking about doing things and not actually doing things. His popularity has been in decline ever since getting elected. | ||
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ChaosWielder
United States166 Posts
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RoyW
Ireland270 Posts
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
On November 09 2011 05:17 RoyW wrote: It continuously shocks me how any American could seriously consider any of the conservative candidates for election. It's not that Europeans like Obama it's that anything to the right of him is like electing a far-right Nationalist party. A lot of outsiders wish the 'choice' in the US was between Democrat and even-more-left-than-Democrat. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On November 09 2011 00:31 nathangonmad wrote: It was to my understanding Obama is the most popular president since Clinton, do you guys think he's not going to get a second term? Most popular to people not living in America sadly. His popularity tapered off very quickly in the states. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
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meadbert
United States681 Posts
On November 09 2011 00:31 nathangonmad wrote: It was to my understanding Obama is the most popular president since Clinton, do you guys think he's not going to get a second term? Clinton was not THAT popular. Clinton failed to get half the vote in either of his two elections. Al Gore and John Kerry got more votes for president than Clinton did when he ran. Clinton's strength was that he had a decent approval rating when he finished his second term, which is rare. Even the best Presidents are usually bruised after two terms, but he had a fairly strong economy which kept his popularity high. | ||
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meadbert
United States681 Posts
Roosevelt won 4 of those with decisive margins. LBJ won once decisively with only 1 year of experience, and then was so unpopular he was forced to resign by his own party. After that Obama was the most popular Democrat. No other Democrat got more than 50.1% of the vote. Clinton, JFK, Truman and Wilson managed to win a combined six elections without ever actually winning a majority of the vote. For these reasons I think it is fair to say that Obama is most popular Democrat since FDR. LBJ could claim to be more popular, but given how his own party forced him out, I think Obama gets the edge. | ||
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
On November 09 2011 05:31 meadbert wrote: Since 1900 Democrats have won 13 elections for President. Roosevelt won 4 of those with decisive margins. LBJ won once decisively with only 1 year of experience, and then was so unpopular he was forced to resign by his own party. After that Obama was the most popular Democrat. No other Democrat got more than 50.1% of the vote. Clinton, JFK, Truman and Wilson managed to win a combined six elections without ever actually winning a majority of the vote. For these reasons I think it is fair to say that Obama is most popular Democrat since FDR. LBJ could claim to be more popular, but given how his own party forced him out, I think Obama gets the edge. ZING. However, his popularity has been greatly reduced. Especially with him being quoted bashing Netanyahu | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
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Deleted User 169839
25 Posts
On November 09 2011 05:17 RoyW wrote: It continuously shocks me how any American could seriously consider any of the conservative candidates for election. This. They're all morons, and Cain seriously seems like the worse, if you look at some of the answers he's given in interviews and GOP debates he seems more clueless than Palin. I actually think I might be smarter than him. But maybe this sort of naive ignorance is looked on as endearing and relatable. Also the recent sexual harassment allegations aren't going to help him at all, even if they could be entirely fabricated. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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johanngrunt
Hong Kong1555 Posts
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Nanikure
United States53 Posts
On November 09 2011 07:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Stop speaking in the 3rd person jesus tap dancing christ. Rofl, I'm real glad I'm not the only who noticed that shit. | ||
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