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SolidGasPro
93 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46612 Posts
On November 08 2011 22:12 GosuNinja wrote: Please don't beleive everything you see in the media, you have to learn to use your head. Do you really think someone running for president would intentionally watch and then steal words from a pokemon show? Come on now. That's pretty much exactly what someone running for president would do in our country. Except that's not nearly as bad as what they'll do if they actually become the president. He either didn't do his research, or he's trolling us. The same goes for every single blunder he's made so far, although some of them are clearly intentional (e.g. making fun of a country's name). | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On November 08 2011 22:24 maoiste wrote: Wow i've seen this msnbc link and i have to wonder aswell if this guy is some sort of comedian pulling the biggest practical joke politics has ever seen. Else i have to doubt the sanity of him and everyone supporting such a guy. We're talking about the same people that elected George "The Decider" Bush. If it is comedy, the joke's on the rest of us. -_- On November 08 2011 22:55 Longshank wrote: If this guy gets elected it just proves that democracy doesn't work anymore. People are becoming too stupid and ignorant and can no longer be allowed to vote. It doesn't prove that the democracy doesn't work because there is no democracy, there's just a reality show. Democracy works fine when you keep the clowns in theaters, crazy people in mental institutions, and people involved in corruption and fraud in jail. However when you actually let them run things... then I can't see how ANY system would "work". | ||
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maoiste
Germany20 Posts
On November 08 2011 22:34 ZeaL. wrote: It is kind of sad that this is what the media is focusing on when there's so much more ridiculous shit about Cain they could focus on. Well there might be more important stuff to focus on and surely more serious shows will fill your need for that. But taken the humoristic nature of this show into consideration you might agree that those more serious topics might not quite fit into the format of the "rachel maddow show", or at least are very hard to implement. And the mockery aside, this piece still shows that hermann caine has major flaws in his knowledge of political issues, concerning both national and international affairs. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46612 Posts
On November 08 2011 22:55 Longshank wrote: If this guy gets elected it just proves that democracy doesn't work anymore. People are becoming too stupid and ignorant and can no longer be allowed to vote. Simple ten-question test required before voting. Need 7 out of 10 correct to be eligible to vote. Question #1: + Show Spoiler + True or False: President Obama is the Muslim anti-Christ, who was also born outside of America. ezpz solution to voting problem. | ||
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
On November 08 2011 23:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Simple ten-question test required before voting. Need 7 out of 10 correct to be eligible to vote. Question #1: + Show Spoiler + True or False: President Obama is the Muslim anti-Christ, who was also born outside of America. ezpz solution to voting problem. +1 I'd qualify. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 08 2011 23:11 zachMEISTER wrote: Why is Ron Paul unelectable? Two words: foreign policy. | ||
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
On November 08 2011 22:55 Talin wrote: We're talking about the same people that elected George "The Decider" Bush. If it is comedy, the joke's on the rest of us. -_- It doesn't prove that the democracy doesn't work because there is no democracy, there's just a reality show. Democracy works fine when you keep the clowns in theaters, crazy people in mental institutions, and people involved in corruption and fraud in jail. However when you actually let them run things... then I can't see how ANY system would "work". nono. democracy works. i would vote for this guy. and i would vote for bush again too. why? because in the current political climate it really doesn't matter who the president is. our government is so gridlocked and bought out that nothing changes when you replace the guy at the top. we all get the guy we vote for, it's just that he can't actually do anything. so because of that, might as well vote for someone who is entertaining to read about on the news. like bush was fucking funny. he pissed a lot of people off but it made for great comedy fodder. same with cain. this guy is a riot. he's a complete 180 from the boring obama administration, which is boring as hell to follow. now as far as congressional elections, those are important, because that's where shit actually gets done. put clowns in congress (as we have done) and you don't get jack shit. | ||
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
Foreign Policy should be the least of our worries ATM. Domestic problems > Foreign problems. | ||
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BioNova
United States598 Posts
On November 08 2011 18:48 zalz wrote: People don't make it into extremes, Ron Paul is a very extreme end of the spectrum candidate. If you live in Finland im sure you don't agree a 100% with everything but saying you would want to have Ron Paul run in your country is basically saying you hate everything Findland currently is. All of Ron Pauls policies are directly opposed to what Finland is. So no people aren't taking anything into the extreme. Ron Paul is just a very extreme candidate and almost nobody seems to understand this. The only thing more extreme than Ron is idiots willing to vote for any other republican expecting anything to actually , really get addressed. I guess on your side of the Atlantic. Extreme is unelected, unheard-of bureaucrats that tell your Presidents "Nice Try, vote again children." Extreme is Central Bankers becoming the new Greek PM. The people who 'understand' Ron, tend to understand facts and trends, things other politicians only consider when bombs drop, or the value of our currency, or a shiny new crisis to cement some legislation in to place. Krugamn--wrong, missed crisis, Bernacke, wrong missed it. Tell me, as housing prices start dropping again, with a new student loan bubble on the table now. More bailouts coming for amercians(FED) buy EU junk bonds. How extreme is true spending cuts when you are broke? Dude, I'm thinking we'll just tax your family 85% to pay for our stuff, not like your going to stop us right? Ron doesn't have to win. He already won. Ideas live longer than donations, or Moldovian Girls trafficed to Amsterdam. Good Morning! | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46612 Posts
Isn't it also because he wants to legalize certain drugs (or, at least, he's super lenient on drug policy), prostitution, and gay marriage? He's never going to get socially-conservative votes. And a lot of (most?) Republicans happen to be socially-conservative as well, partially because of religion. He's too socially liberal for a Republican. | ||
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
On November 08 2011 23:14 BioNova wrote: The only thing more extreme than Ron is idiots willing to vote for any other republican expecting anything to actually , really get addressed. I guess on your side of the Atlantic. Extreme is unelected, unheard-of bureaucrats that tell your Presidents "Nice Try, vote again children." Extreme is Central Bankers becoming the new Greek PM. The people who 'understand' Ron, tend to understand facts and trends, things other politicians only consider when bombs drop, or the value of our currency, or a shiny new crisis to cement some legislation in to place. Krugamn--wrong, missed crisis, Bernacke, wrong missed it. Tell me, as housing prices start dropping again, with a new student loan bubble on the table now. More bailouts coming for amercians(FED) buy EU junk bonds. How extreme is true spending cuts when you are broke? Dude, I'm thinking we'll just tax your family 85% to pay for our stuff, not like your going to stop us right? Ron doesn't have to win. He already won. Ideas live longer than donations, or Moldovian Girls trafficed to Amsterdam. Good Morning! Ron Paul is one of the few candidates I've ever sat down and read their whole platform. He may seem "extreme" in some cases. But when you're in a rut such as ours, extreme measures are used to pull us one way or another. Libertarians are all about individual freedom and small government. Why can't people see the broad scheme of his platform and understand he is only viewed as "extreme" because everyone else is staunchly liberal, or solidly conservative, neither wanting to meet in the middle. Libertarians do just that. On November 08 2011 23:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Isn't it also because he wants to legalize certain drugs (or, at least, he's super lenient on drug policy), prostitution, and gay marriage? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7Zp41fByE He's never going to get socially-conservative votes. And a lot of (most?) Republicans happen to be socially-conservative as well, partially because of religion. He's too socially liberal for a Republican. His social policy is about individual freedom. As long as you're doing what you want and not impeding on others, you're free to do heroin, cocaine, meth, suck a pepe, hire a hooker. All forms of individual freedom. Not because he supports the use of drugs or the legalization of prostitution, but because he believes in YOU being able to do what YOU want. | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On November 08 2011 23:13 zachMEISTER wrote: Foreign Policy should be the least of our worries ATM. Domestic problems > Foreign problems. He's not electable because Republicans view him as anarchist-lite and democrats view him as libertarian anti-social security welfare state + anti-abortion. Basically he'd never win a primary in the two parties and would need to run on a third-party platform (which he has done before). Even then he'd lose the general election due to his anti-federal government stance. States are already fucking up with issues such as abortion and immigration (look at Mississippi, Arizona, Alabama), they'd fuck up even more with a minialistic federal government. | ||
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Papulatus
United States669 Posts
On November 08 2011 23:21 Junichi wrote: This Rachel Maddow Show is brilliant. Cain has to be an artist... I hope you're kidding if you take this left wing rhetoric seriously or consider it to be "brilliant." Unless, of course, you are taking it as humor, as it should be taken. Its no worse than the conspiracy theories that Glen Beck spins. Its sad that these types of shows are on what people consider to be "news channels." | ||
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46612 Posts
On November 08 2011 23:18 zachMEISTER wrote: His social policy is about individual freedom. As long as you're doing what you want and not impeding on others, you're free to do heroin, cocaine, meth, suck a pepe, hire a hooker. All forms of individual freedom. Not because he supports the use of drugs or the legalization of prostitution, but because he believes in YOU being able to do what YOU want. I know that, and I agree with him. I'm merely explaining why social conservatives won't vote for him, as that was the question asked. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10978 Posts
On November 08 2011 23:25 chaoser wrote: He's not electable because Republicans view him as anarchist-lite and democrats view him as libertarian anti-social security welfare state + anti-abortion. And both are right ^^. In short: He's to extreme. | ||
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
On November 08 2011 23:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I know that, and I agree with him. I'm merely explaining why social conservatives won't vote for him, as that was the question asked. Sorry, kinda overzealous when trying to sympathize and explain political views beyond DERPH DERPH CONSERVATION NO MATTER WHAT and LOLOL GOVT GIVE ME EVERYTHING PLZ. | ||
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