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lOvOlUNiMEDiA
United States643 Posts
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iksi
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That being said : still theres one thing I do not understand, how come Ron Paul is not elected yet. If I could, I would SNATCH Ron Paul from US and make him president of Finland. That much of an great of a guy he seems. Everything what he says has reason, guy has seen more wars than I prolly have fingers left and he really seems to address some politically flammable issues again & again. He has life experience, he has seen how stuff work & dont work. I could list here half-a-dozen things what Ron Paul has voted against in US gongress multiple times but this is turning to be rather long wall of txt already so I leave it up to people to dig up & search for themselfs if interested in. I must also add that, Im not just pulling Ron Paul out of my hat to derpderp here. Back in 2008 if someone remembers, Ron Paul raised millions of dollars money for his campaing. Wich was almost every cent of it just valuntareely given. People all over the world - Europe - Asia - etc, donated millions of dollars money. I cant belive the US media shuts this guy down so much. If I could, I would vote for Ron Paul. | ||
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abominare
United States1216 Posts
On November 08 2011 16:09 iksi wrote: Im not from United States, so its sometimes rather hard for me to wrap my head around how another countrys political affairs work and whatnot. Whos popular and who can still be voted or what party selected who to run for them. That being said : still theres one thing I do not understand, how come Ron Paul is not elected yet. If I could, I would SNATCH Ron Paul from US and make him president of Finland. That much of an great of a guy he seems. Everything what he says has reason, guy has seen more wars than I prolly have fingers left and he really seems to address some politically flammable issues again & again. He has life experience, he has seen how stuff work & dont work. I could list here half-a-dozen things what Ron Paul has voted against in US gongress multiple times but this is turning to be rather long wall of txt already so I leave it up to people to dig up & search for themselfs if interested in. I must also add that, Im not just pulling Ron Paul out of my hat to derpderp here. Back in 2008 if someone remembers, Ron Paul raised millions of dollars money for his campaing. Wich was almost every cent of it just valuntareely given. People all over the world - Europe - Asia - etc, donated millions of dollars money. I cant belive the US media shuts this guy down so much. If I could, I would vote for Ron Paul. He's still kinda a loon, but I can see his appeal to some Europeans. Theres some noticeable difference in management when you start talking about the structure of government for a country of our physical numerical size but I'll try to translate one of his more silly concepts. Since your from finland I'm going to assume you're proud of the school there. At least you should be finland leads the western world in compulsory school levels. Ron Paul basically has the view point that our Dept of Education should be completely abolished. In finland this would be the equivalent of saying that each school was free to do whatever the hell they wanted, if they didn't want to teach science facts they were encouraged to go ahead. Suddenly every school district is free to flail about however they want and not provide a seemingly basic standard of education. This would be like letting our fifty states have complete control of education. It may seem silly that a school would go out of its way to you know say that evolution isn't worth teaching and to just say its all fake, but in the US that would actually happen in most of the country, Ron Paul thinks thats a swell idea. Ron Paul also thinks its a swell idea for states to institute mandatory religions, discriminate voters at free will, and to make sure that pollution isn't something you can regulate, its best left to the actual manufacturers to decide how much they want to pollute and where. | ||
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Raambo11
United States828 Posts
On November 08 2011 16:09 iksi wrote: Im not from United States, so its sometimes rather hard for me to wrap my head around how another countrys political affairs work and whatnot. Whos popular and who can still be voted or what party selected who to run for them. That being said : still theres one thing I do not understand, how come Ron Paul is not elected yet. If I could, I would SNATCH Ron Paul from US and make him president of Finland. That much of an great of a guy he seems. Everything what he says has reason, guy has seen more wars than I prolly have fingers left and he really seems to address some politically flammable issues again & again. He has life experience, he has seen how stuff work & dont work. I could list here half-a-dozen things what Ron Paul has voted against in US gongress multiple times but this is turning to be rather long wall of txt already so I leave it up to people to dig up & search for themselfs if interested in. I must also add that, Im not just pulling Ron Paul out of my hat to derpderp here. Back in 2008 if someone remembers, Ron Paul raised millions of dollars money for his campaing. Wich was almost every cent of it just valuntareely given. People all over the world - Europe - Asia - etc, donated millions of dollars money. I cant belive the US media shuts this guy down so much. If I could, I would vote for Ron Paul. What? I think you have a deep misunderstanding of what Ron Paul's philosophies are. He's a hardcore free market guy, IE government should have nothing to do with the private sector, and the government should be shrunk to a level as to which it would not hinder the economy. He opposes almost any sort of socialism and is pro-capitalism to an extreme, meaning he believes the free market should determine everything from the safety of products to the price. Finland on the other hand, which you probably already know, is the opposite extreme, although it works quite well as I hear Finland is one of the best places in the world to live. Healthcare is provided by the government, and everyone is taxed heavily to fund the (outstanding) education system, the train system and other parts of the government. Ron Paul is basically trying to do everything to make America as opposite from Finland as he possibly can. I suppose if you don't like the policies of Finland at all then I can see why you would vote for him? | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On November 08 2011 16:09 iksi wrote: Im not from United States, so its sometimes rather hard for me to wrap my head around how another countrys political affairs work and whatnot. Whos popular and who can still be voted or what party selected who to run for them. That being said : still theres one thing I do not understand, how come Ron Paul is not elected yet. If I could, I would SNATCH Ron Paul from US and make him president of Finland. That much of an great of a guy he seems. Everything what he says has reason, guy has seen more wars than I prolly have fingers left and he really seems to address some politically flammable issues again & again. He has life experience, he has seen how stuff work & dont work. I could list here half-a-dozen things what Ron Paul has voted against in US gongress multiple times but this is turning to be rather long wall of txt already so I leave it up to people to dig up & search for themselfs if interested in. I must also add that, Im not just pulling Ron Paul out of my hat to derpderp here. Back in 2008 if someone remembers, Ron Paul raised millions of dollars money for his campaing. Wich was almost every cent of it just valuntareely given. People all over the world - Europe - Asia - etc, donated millions of dollars money. I cant belive the US media shuts this guy down so much. If I could, I would vote for Ron Paul. You.... You do understand that Ron Paul and his worldview are literally the opposite of everything Finland is today right? | ||
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iksi
25 Posts
Never did I ever mention anything about Finlands methods doing things. It wasnt part of spesific topic. All Im saying is, for time being, available canditates at your hand, as bad as they all are - I would vote for Ron Paul. And when people talk about his policies, like I said earlier, people tend to take them into extremes. Im not an forum person, this is my second time ever posting in forums, so I dont know if its somekind of "thing" what people are suppose to do here always, to over exaggerated everything what they say and impliment. But I dont see Ron Paul even half as bad as people make him to be. But then again, like I said. Maybe its cultural thing. You think he is horrible. I dont. USA in huge debt, some others aint. So I dont know. Maybe theres something more into these things. Have anyone even checked into Ron Pauls policies about debt & spending. Ill leave it here. Funny thou, how people dragged Finn's policies into this by assuming several things without even knowing by fact if I was for or against them, or what I think is good in it and bad. However. If you dont like Ron Paul, its fine. Maybe Iv seen him in too bright light, and Ill will look into more to this since now ppl raised doubt in me. So I thank you for that. | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On November 08 2011 16:20 abominare wrote: He's still kinda a loon, but I can see his appeal to some Europeans. Theres some noticeable difference in management when you start talking about the structure of government for a country of our physical numerical size but I'll try to translate one of his more silly concepts. Since your from finland I'm going to assume you're proud of the school there. At least you should be finland leads the western world in compulsory school levels. Ron Paul basically has the view point that our Dept of Education should be completely abolished. In finland this would be the equivalent of saying that each school was free to do whatever the hell they wanted, if they didn't want to teach science facts they were encouraged to go ahead. Suddenly every school district is free to flail about however they want and not provide a seemingly basic standard of education. This would be like letting our fifty states have complete control of education. It may seem silly that a school would go out of its way to you know say that evolution isn't worth teaching and to just say its all fake, but in the US that would actually happen in most of the country, Ron Paul thinks thats a swell idea. Ron Paul also thinks its a swell idea for states to institute mandatory religions, discriminate voters at free will, and to make sure that pollution isn't something you can regulate, its best left to the actual manufacturers to decide how much they want to pollute and where. You're imputing a level of responsibility on the Department of Education that's way beyond what they actually do. They're mostly in charge of school privacy issues, civil rights, student loans, and supplementary funding. School curricula are still almost entirely set by the states and local school boards. The only meddling they've done have been recent things like No Child Left Behind, Race to the Top, and the Common Core State Standards Initiative, all of which have been abject failures. If you think our educational system is going to go to shit without the ED, keep in mind that it didn't even exist as a separate department until 1979, which is about when people started complaining that American public schools sucked. You're just imagining a fantasy doomsday scenario that has no basis in fact. It's right up there with "ending the war on terror will cause terrorist attacks on America" and "ending the war on drugs will cause everyone to become drug addicts." | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On November 08 2011 18:10 iksi wrote: Iv readed throu Ron Paul policies. Not every word of it, neither prolly did I understand everything, everywhere 100% - but people make this a lot "extreme" than it actually is. Never did I ever mention anything about Finlands methods doing things. It wasnt part of spesific topic. All Im saying is, for time being, available canditates at your hand, as bad as they all are - I would vote for Ron Paul. And when people talk about his policies, like I said earlier, people tend to take them into extremes. Im not an forum person, this is my second time ever posting in forums, so I dont know if its somekind of "thing" what people are suppose to do here always, to over exaggerated everything what they say and impliment. But I dont see Ron Paul even half as bad as people make him to be. But then again, like I said. Maybe its cultural thing. You think he is horrible. I dont. USA in huge debt, some others aint. So I dont know. Maybe theres something more into these things. Have anyone even checked into Ron Pauls policies about debt & spending. Ill leave it here. Funny thou, how people dragged Finn's policies into this by assuming several things without even knowing by fact if I was for or against them, or what I think is good in it and bad. However. If you dont like Ron Paul, its fine. Maybe Iv seen him in too bright light, and Ill will look into more to this since now ppl raised doubt in me. So I thank you for that. People don't make it into extremes, Ron Paul is a very extreme end of the spectrum candidate. If you live in Finland im sure you don't agree a 100% with everything but saying you would want to have Ron Paul run in your country is basically saying you hate everything Findland currently is. All of Ron Pauls policies are directly opposed to what Finland is. So no people aren't taking anything into the extreme. Ron Paul is just a very extreme candidate and almost nobody seems to understand this. | ||
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johanngrunt
Hong Kong1555 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46309 Posts
On November 08 2011 20:32 johanngrunt wrote: Is this Herman Cain campaign some kind of elaborate practical joke you 'mericans are pulling on the rest of the world? If you watch this, you might think so: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908//vp/45171907#45171907 It really is hilarious that people can take him seriously after things like this. | ||
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rrwrwx
United States247 Posts
For one, he constantly contradicts himself, and at this point, I don't actually believe HE knows what he's saying. Additionally, his 'blunder' that was "Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan" leaves me befuddled as to why people think he would be a good representation as the leader of our country. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On November 08 2011 20:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: If you watch this, you might think so: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908//vp/45171907#45171907 It really is hilarious that people can take him seriously after things like this. Haha, so cool! | ||
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
On November 08 2011 20:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: If you watch this, you might think so: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908//vp/45171907#45171907 It really is hilarious that people can take him seriously after things like this. this is so win | ||
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GosuNinja
United States127 Posts
On November 08 2011 20:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: If you watch this, you might think so: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908//vp/45171907#45171907 It really is hilarious that people can take him seriously after things like this. Please don't beleive everything you see in the media, you have to learn to use your head. Do you really think someone running for president would intentionally watch and then steal words from a pokemon show? Come on now. | ||
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SensFaiL
United States98 Posts
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turnip
United States193 Posts
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maoiste
Germany20 Posts
Else i have to doubt the sanity of him and everyone supporting such a guy. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On November 08 2011 22:22 SensFaiL wrote: It's pretty disgusting what the media is doing to Herman Cain right now, whether hes innocent or not. Not only is our government ruining this country but also the media is with all the filth they call "news" every day. It is kind of sad that this is what the media is focusing on when there's so much more ridiculous shit about Cain they could focus on. | ||
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
On November 08 2011 22:12 GosuNinja wrote: Please don't beleive everything you see in the media, you have to learn to use your head. Do you really think someone running for president would intentionally watch and then steal words from a pokemon show? Come on now. two options here: 1) cain or an associate looked up good quotes and did not verify the source... making him a tool 2) cain is putting the joke on us by intentionally quoting from pokemon... making him a fucking awesome troll either way this dude is hilarious and he has my vote owing entirely to his comedic value. for all our influence the US doesn't know what the fuck we're doing, so might as well enjoy the confusion and applaud brilliant audacity when you see it. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On November 08 2011 22:22 SensFaiL wrote: It's pretty disgusting what the media is doing to Herman Cain right now, whether hes innocent or not. Not only is our government ruining this country but also the media is with all the filth they call "news" every day. ... Herman Cain's sexual harrassment allegations come out --> THE MEDIA IS TRYING TO DEFAME HIM WITH CONSTANT COVERAGE! Anthony Weiner's sexual twitter pictures come out --> JON STEWART DIDN'T BAG ON HIM HARD ENOUGH ON THE DAY THE STORY BROKE!/Silence cause a 24/7 whole month news cycle is totally necessary for that story I'mma quote former Senator Weiner here in saying: "Hy-po-cri-sy" | ||
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