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On October 25 2011 08:34 cmgillett wrote: sorry but big time bfd
User was temp banned for this post. I really don't see how this guy was banned.
I mean seriously who the hell would care about this besides Apple fanboys? It took me 2 minutes + a page and a half just to tell what the problem is.
If the man cared about details or even his own products then Apple's stuff wouldn't be such overpriced, un-customizable garbage, or at least have real quality options for the non tech-retardants (No offense meant) who happen understand what a byte is.
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On October 25 2011 10:38 koreasilver wrote: I still don't understand why this guy even really matters.
Ignorance is bliss. He and Bill Gates have probably had more influence on your life than most.
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On October 25 2011 12:02 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 10:38 koreasilver wrote: I still don't understand why this guy even really matters. Ignorance is bliss. He and Bill Gates have probably had more influence on your life than most. Besides the fact that I've never used an apple product in my life, even considering the fact that apple's products may have highly influenced the technology around me and has affected me in that way, that in itself gives me no reason to actually give a damn about Steve Jobs. As far as I am concerned, the people involved with my public transportation systems, the garbage collection services, the people that are involved in providing me the water and electricity in my homes, etc., are FAR more influential and important to me and every other person on his godforsaken planet and I am pretty assured that no one gives a damn about them and would mourn their deaths. Why should I care about Steve Jobs again? Just because he gave people a product that people bought with their money at exorbitant prices doesn't make him important to me in any significant way.
The deification of this man is puzzling and absurd. To the every day man he is as personally important to you as a stranger you might have glanced upon on the bus, or even less than that.
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Apparently nobody cares for detail anymore? Some of the reactions to this blog are fucking depressing. Like, unless the earth is shaking thedeadhaji can't make a critical blogpost?
Thanks haji for alerting me to this ironic turn. It's fascinating little stories like this that make my day.
PS. followed on tumblr, despite that so many of your posts are in Japanese. (I'll just scroll past those.)
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On October 25 2011 10:19 Froadac wrote: Let me be more eloquent:
1) The japanese cover looks stupiod 2) It isn't what Jobs probably wanted 3) I don't think it should have been done 4) I don't care it was done.
On October 25 2011 09:53 Serejai wrote: Shame on you, Haji. Didn't anyone ever tell you not to judge a book by its cover!?
lol awesome replies! <3 (much respect for throwing some humor into an otherwise sour thread)
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I was always impartial to Apple products until I studied operating system design in my software engineering courses. Apple products, both the hardware and the software, are designed to such an amazing depth and detail. Every pixel, every bit of data, was thought out thoroughly. Steve Jobs had a microscopic attention to detail and a deep care for visual appeal, so if anyone deserves more than this, it's him.
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On October 25 2011 13:13 Chairman Ray wrote: I was always impartial to Apple products until I studied operating system design in my software engineering courses. Apple products, both the hardware and the software, are designed to such an amazing depth and detail. Every pixel, every bit of data, was thought out thoroughly. Steve Jobs had a microscopic attention to detail and a deep care for visual appeal, so if anyone deserves more than this, it's him.
O_o
Would you care to elaborate? (if possible in text, which is a limited means of communication)
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I watched all of his presentations and was always mesmerized by his ability to introduce products. The day i heard of his death quite saddened me although you had to kinda expect it (authorizing his book(which was quite a big deal considering he was very outspoken about the non authorized books - selecting his writer, stepping down as CEO)
thedeadhaji thank you for bringing this up,
it is ironic that a man who cared so deeply about every single detail is getting shit on about one of the things he cared about most - but thats business, even Steve cant keep up his iron grip after his death.
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Anyone else do a triple-take, looking carefully over what was actually defaced only to realize nothing really was?
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I honestly can't see the fucking difference.
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If I were a publishing house, I'd do whatever to get more sales. Why not? (unless you get negative publicity like for this)
As kind of eluded to earlier, I'd put more blame on the people handling book rights, those who care about Jobs, etc. than the Japanese publisher presumably correctly targeting the audience.
I've got to say though, that a lot of Asian language books I've seen kind of lack taste with regards to text on covers. Why?
Also, that I've once heard Wozniak speak in person and even without having seen Jobs, omg I can see why one is more famous than the other. x_x
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On October 25 2011 10:42 Geovu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 08:34 cmgillett wrote: sorry but big time bfd
User was temp banned for this post. I really don't see how this guy was banned. I mean seriously who the hell would care about this besides Apple fanboys? It took me 2 minutes + a page and a half just to tell what the problem is. If the man cared about details or even his own products then Apple's stuff wouldn't be such overpriced, un-customizable garbage, or at least have real quality options for the non tech-retardants (No offense meant) who happen understand what a byte is.
He got banned because he didn't bother to actually respond to the blog. A one line dismissal of something haji put together is not only disrespectful but also a waste of people's time. As the commandments say, think before posting and actually contribute something if you do.
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On October 25 2011 14:51 Myrmidon wrote: If I were a publishing house, I'd do whatever to get more sales. Why not? (unless you get negative publicity like for this)
The publisher's name rose to #3 on Twitter's trending topics this evening, due to outrage from a subset of the Japanese internet population.
As kind of eluded to earlier, I'd put more blame on the people handling book rights, those who care about Jobs, etc. than the Japanese publisher presumably correctly targeting the audience.
I think this is definitely a legitimate claim.
I've got to say though, that a lot of Asian language books I've seen kind of lack taste with regards to text on covers. Why?
I wish I knew the answer
Also, that I've once heard Wozniak speak in person and even without having seen Jobs, omg I can see why one is more famous than the other. x_x
That guy is an engineering hero though, omg *drool*.
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I feel like this wouldn't be half as offensive to me if the redesign wasn't so ridiculously ugly and crass.
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"If maximizing profits meant a less perfect product, Jobs would choose less profits every time."
That's complete hogwash. This whole story is a joke, he was a businessman not some divine prophet. 'Defacing' his autobiography? They changed the design, such an astounding overreaction could only really come from such a userbase.
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So you're protesting because a marketing genius would dislike that an alteration of a cover he designed might enable to sell more copies of the book ? Or do you really think he only cared about the quality of the product, in which case err, well, I don't agree with you lol.
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Different countries, different preferences.
I know Steve Jobs was a person who wanted everything to be the same everywhere, but you just can't sell the same layout everywhere in the world equally well. Hell, it even goes as far as to what the different colors mean to the audience.
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Defaced in Japan? I thought this was going to be something interesting like someone wiping their arse with the book. Damn.
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On October 25 2011 15:02 thedeadhaji wrote: The publisher's name rose to #3 on Twitter's trending topics this evening, due to outrage from a subset of the Japanese internet population.
Is that a Japanese thing ? Something about the culture and their respect of dead ppl ? I mean in Europe nobody cares if a book is "defaced".
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"If maximizing profits meant a less perfect product, Jobs would choose less profits every time."
Somehow I don't quite agree.
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