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On October 25 2011 08:19 thedeadhaji wrote:
Added image with "cover strip" to op.
To those of you who claim that this is just a small detail that doesn't matter - have you forgotten that the very subject of this book is a guy who was incredibly anal about the most minute of details? This book is his (and the cover is the only part that Jobs had any influence on), and this Japanese publisher completely shat on him.
And as an entrepreneur, I'm sure Jobs will understand that cultural/regional differences affect the marketability of items. Personally, I think it looks tacky, but maybe the publishers felt that a magainze-esque feel to the book was better.
Who the fuck cares?
Are you also going to complain that McDonalds doesn't serve beef in India, but has a vegeterian-centric menu instead? Oh my god, they're compromising the Big Mac just to conform to local religious values!!!
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sorry but big time bfd
User was temp banned for this post.
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On October 25 2011 08:19 thedeadhaji wrote:
Added image with "cover strip" to op.
To those of you who claim that this is just a small detail that doesn't matter - have you forgotten that the very subject of this book is a guy who was incredibly anal about the most minute of details? This book is his (and the cover is the only part that Jobs had any influence on), and this Japanese publisher completely shat on him.
Yeah all I know is that when I die, if Japan fucks up the cover of my biography one bit I will be PISSED. Sure more people may be reading my life story, BUT AT WHAT COST?
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You know what's more tasteless?
Steve Jobs was an amazing visionary. There's so much to cover about him, but instead you choose some asinine detail about a biographical book on him.
How can you criticize the Japanese publishing company when you're also defacing Steve Jobs' legacy by stirring up drama to promote your blog?
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People seem to be making a huge deal about something that really doesn't matter. I'm a graphic designer and I don't even care in the slightest that they altered it for a different country's sales. Maybe I'm just not understanding all the fanaticism for Jobs or something, I dunno. Maybe if it was something more significant than a book cover it would actually seem important.
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On October 25 2011 08:39 MayorITC wrote:
You know what's more tasteless?
Steve Jobs was an amazing visionary. There's so much to cover about him, but instead you choose some asinine detail about a biographical book on him.
How can you criticize the Japanese publishing company when you're also defacing Steve Jobs' legacy by stirring up drama to promote your blog?
Your savior isn't looking too good.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/24/steve-jobs-biography-let-the-backlash-begin.html
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I'm not sure the 'distortion' justifies this harsh of an outcry.
When I read defacement I think of someone adding mustaches and horns to pictures in library books. Using an iconic photograph on the book, and adding labels on it doesn't seem like defacement to me.
But I suppose it is in the eye of the beholder.
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Is this that much of a big deal....?
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Haji, are you trolling me?
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On October 25 2011 08:51 Chef wrote:
Haji, are you trolling me?
That sounds about right.
I can understand if you're upset about it, as you see it as a slight to Steve Jobs, but the change doesn't seem to warrant the intensity of the reaction. =/
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On October 25 2011 08:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
-_- steve jobs sucked and I blame him for the piece of shit that windows 8 looks like it is going to be. I dunno how you can say he didn't focus on profit since everything apple has is about 3-5x the price it should be, at least for computers. Maybe you can argue they didn't sacrifice quality to do that, but I would say that depends on your definition of quality. That 2gb macbook they sold for 1k around a year ago (dunno if they updated it) was clearly a piece of shit and functioned on par with a netbook.
That's just a difference in opinion in what you intend to pay for in a device.
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On October 25 2011 08:30 TheAmazombie wrote:
Yeah, it is slightly different and that is kind of annoying, but seriously, this happens ALL THE TIME in every country where they alter things to fit marketing strats.
Have you looked at the link at the bottom? It compares versions in Germany, China, etc and none of them are altered the cover to the extent of what they chose to do in Japan.
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I don't view this as a huge omfg deal, but moreso incredibly disrespectful and ironic in many ways. The irony here is obvious, since the way Apple is primarily different from other manufacturers these days (imho) is their attention to minutiae. A lot of the things Apple adds to their products might fall into "no big deal who really cares", just like this crop, but it's their touch. It makes their products more pleasant to use. Hence, irony.
And obviously it's disrespectful to Steve Jobs since, from what I gather, he wanted the cover to be one way, and not the other (and like I said he/apple are adamant about details like this), and now that he's dead, oops nobody cares.
My 2c.
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On October 25 2011 08:32 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 08:08 thedeadhaji wrote:
If maximizing profits meant a less perfect product, Jobs would choose less profits every time. In this very biography, he recalls how Microsoft has deliberately sacrificed product quality for a superior business model. Apple is not Microsoft, and Steve Jobs is not Bill Gates Then why is apple's shit so ridiculously overpriced?
You could easily argue that if they priced it lower and used completely shitty design / materials, then they'd actually have even higher profits.
But then again, perhaps not. who knows.
On October 25 2011 08:33 LaLuSh wrote:
Feels like pseudonews.
pseudonews to some, real news to others.
imo
On October 25 2011 08:33 MayorITC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 08:19 thedeadhaji wrote:
Added image with "cover strip" to op.
To those of you who claim that this is just a small detail that doesn't matter - have you forgotten that the very subject of this book is a guy who was incredibly anal about the most minute of details? This book is his (and the cover is the only part that Jobs had any influence on), and this Japanese publisher completely shat on him. And as an entrepreneur, I'm sure Jobs will understand that cultural/regional differences affect the marketability of items. Personally, I think it looks tacky, but maybe the publishers felt that a magainze-esque feel to the book was better.
While I certainly can't speak for the man in the grave, I honestly don't think he was the type of guy to jlig.
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On October 25 2011 08:35 Kashll wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 08:19 thedeadhaji wrote:
Added image with "cover strip" to op.
To those of you who claim that this is just a small detail that doesn't matter - have you forgotten that the very subject of this book is a guy who was incredibly anal about the most minute of details? This book is his (and the cover is the only part that Jobs had any influence on), and this Japanese publisher completely shat on him. Yeah all I know is that when I die, if Japan fucks up the cover of my biography one bit I will be PISSED. Sure more people may be reading my life story, BUT AT WHAT COST?
lol good one 
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On October 25 2011 08:08 thedeadhaji wrote:If maximizing profits meant a less perfect product, Jobs would choose less profits every time. In this very biography, he recalls how Microsoft has deliberately sacrificed product quality for a superior business model. Apple is not Microsoft, and Steve Jobs is not Bill Gates. Koudansha's pursuit of profits at Steve's expense is revolting.</p><p>The worst part about this mess? The fact that this abomination of a redesign will probably increase sales in Japan
One would thought that someone with over 24k posts would be more impartial.
Apple sacrifice the user's liberty for design and profits. Is it any better than Microsoft ?
And if you want to be revolted by something concerning the computer world, you might as well be mad at the poor coverage of the death of Dennis Ritchie. He, at least, created something valuable to humanity whereas Jobs was just a good vendor.
No need to say that I am sad.
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On October 25 2011 08:39 MayorITC wrote:
You know what's more tasteless?
Steve Jobs was an amazing visionary. There's so much to cover about him, but instead you choose some asinine detail about a biographical book on him.
How can you criticize the Japanese publishing company when you're also defacing Steve Jobs' legacy by stirring up drama to promote your blog?
Do you honestly think this is the only thing I've written about him in the last 3 weeks?
I'll spare you the links.
The purpose of my blog is is to inform and to make the reader think about things they may not have before. I'll willingly subject myself to criticism if it means 1% of the viewers has even an inkling of a critical thought as a result of my writing.
If I truly wished to "promote my blog", I would either (a) only post part of the post here, or (b) post only a link, like so many shitty SC2 sites do on these forums. WIn that light, would you care to elaborate how my sharing of my thoughts on a design debauchery defaces the legacy of Jobs? And mind you, it's in everyone's right to disagree with me on my argument in the OP.
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At this rate, Apple may as well produce a holy book and build their own houses of worship. There sure is enough zeal in their following to justify it.
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On October 25 2011 09:19 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 08:08 thedeadhaji wrote:If maximizing profits meant a less perfect product, Jobs would choose less profits every time. In this very biography, he recalls how Microsoft has deliberately sacrificed product quality for a superior business model. Apple is not Microsoft, and Steve Jobs is not Bill Gates. Koudansha's pursuit of profits at Steve's expense is revolting.</p><p>The worst part about this mess? The fact that this abomination of a redesign will probably increase sales in Japan One would thought that someone with over 24k posts would be more impartial. Apple sacrifice the user's liberty for design and profits. Is it any better than Microsoft ? And if you want to be revolted by something concerning the computer world, you might as well be mad at the poor coverage of the death of Dennis Ritchie. He, at least, created something valuable to humanity whereas Jobs was just a good vendor. No need to say that I am sad.
You were saying?
http://hkmurakami.com/post/11516197707/ritchie
Also, what's the point in being impartial in a blog?
You're supposed to be carry your own voice in a damn blog, not try to be a newspaper.
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