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Steve Jobs Biography - Defaced in Japan - Page 5

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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 11:57:30
October 25 2011 11:48 GMT
#81
Well to be really honest, the cover isn't nothing close to an artpiece to begin with. The portrait while beeing i guess quite famous is quite shitty, and I actually think crazy japanese consumers own that kind of right to transform anything that's shown to them with their crazy visual mania, because they like it better this way.

Apple is far from beeing any design king, unless you consider their items as work of art.

I mean 70 years from now people will look at the iphones / ipad like a fat big clunky piece of plastic, just like any other phone.

if anything, Steve Jobs was good at marketing that's about it.

edit : however their operating systems were always very powerful and that's very very good

edit 2 : also every piece of biography I ever read on him would always tell the same aka him beeing an arrogant and self illuminated asshole, and that doesn't help
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 14:50:04
October 25 2011 14:48 GMT
#82
On October 25 2011 12:13 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 12:02 TheHova wrote:
On October 25 2011 10:38 koreasilver wrote:
I still don't understand why this guy even really matters.


Ignorance is bliss. He and Bill Gates have probably had more influence on your life than most.

Besides the fact that I've never used an apple product in my life, even considering the fact that apple's products may have highly influenced the technology around me and has affected me in that way, that in itself gives me no reason to actually give a damn about Steve Jobs. As far as I am concerned, the people involved with my public transportation systems, the garbage collection services, the people that are involved in providing me the water and electricity in my homes, etc., are FAR more influential and important to me and every other person on his godforsaken planet and I am pretty assured that no one gives a damn about them and would mourn their deaths. Why should I care about Steve Jobs again? Just because he gave people a product that people bought with their money at exorbitant prices doesn't make him important to me in any significant way.

The deification of this man is puzzling and absurd. To the every day man he is as personally important to you as a stranger you might have glanced upon on the bus, or even less than that.


You asked why he matters, he matters because he was a genius who changed the majority of peoples lives. One of the most innovative people of our time. As important as those people you mention are, they could not do what he did. There's a reason why he's being called the Thomas Edison of our time.

He did more than just make apple products. Look at Pixar and the things they've done for the movie industry. Itunes and what it has done for the music industry. He pretty much opened up a whole new market with tablets. Microsoft used alot of ideas from Apple and this helped develop the computer industry as a whole. It made it competitive and Microsoft had to use some of Apples ideas. Thus making the thing you're probably typing and reading this on better.

You don't have to know somebody personally to admire and respect what they have done and the legacy that they've left. And you don't have to own an i-phone or mac for this man to have influenced your life.

Instead of being so naive do some research and show alittle respect.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
October 25 2011 15:17 GMT
#83
I don't think the parallels between Jobs ideals and this unimportant event are necessary or even particularly valid. :s

It's also pretty standard for publishers. Honestly I don't think Steve Jobs would have had a problem with it if people with real expertise told him it'd go over better on the Japanese market.
Monoxide
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada1190 Posts
October 25 2011 15:41 GMT
#84
Why is there a I and an II on the covers? Are there 2 different versions, or are the numbers just differentiating between the title and the back covers,
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
October 25 2011 15:59 GMT
#85
On October 26 2011 00:41 Monoxide wrote:
Why is there a I and an II on the covers? Are there 2 different versions, or are the numbers just differentiating between the title and the back covers,

It appears that they're selling the Japanese version as two volumes.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
October 25 2011 18:52 GMT
#86
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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
October 25 2011 20:35 GMT
#87
Defaced is definitely a bit over the top ...

More like not a cool thing to do?
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
October 25 2011 21:18 GMT
#88
I was expecting something offensive. They changed the background and added some words? I'm surprised anyone would care. I guess when it comes to a cult leader like Jobs the smallest thing can be taken offensively.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 25 2011 21:29 GMT
#89
Irony O_o

Not big news imo, people need to stop crying.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
October 25 2011 21:48 GMT
#90
I like it when we have discussions of this sort. We pour out all that we have got and observe how it affects the viewpoints of other people; it's just like going to the spa – a place where we can get rid of all of our impurities and come out anew, a place where we can detox from the bullshit of the world, a shoulder on which to cry the living hell out of our souls.

It’s a good experience nonetheless, but tomorrow we won’t give a shit anymore.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
October 25 2011 23:56 GMT
#91
Sort of off-topic, but speaking of defacement and desecration, I just happened upon this on Youtube.

Just look at that background. Sweet Jesus.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
October 26 2011 06:29 GMT
#92
I laughed when I read the part about how steve jobs sacrificed profits for better design.
Hello Mac Vs PC computers.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 08:12:32
October 26 2011 08:08 GMT
#93
This might be slightly off topic, but my opinion:

This doesn't seem like such a big deal at all. In the end, it isn't.

If I were to get outraged about something, though, it would be that this guy:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie

is not receiving any attention at all since his recent death, despite being (very arguably) as influential, if not very much moreso, than Steve Jobs. It's quite sad, in my opinion, that people are pissed about a publishing company not paying attention to the design of Jobs' autobiography, but at the same time are completely oblivious to the death of one of the founding fathers of modern computer science.

Edit:

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not to deface this blog but the fact that people seriously think that the CEO of a company that sells overpriced computers "sacrificed profits for design" is rather funny. You can't seriously say Apple sacrifices profits for design when their computers are routinely hundreds of dollars more expensive than their hardware-equivalent PC counterparts.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 14:53:39
October 26 2011 13:45 GMT
#94
Who's cashing in on the Steve Jobs book?

I've got no idea why anyone should care about this change.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 26 2011 14:34 GMT
#95
On October 26 2011 17:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
This might be slightly off topic, but my opinion:

This doesn't seem like such a big deal at all. In the end, it isn't.

If I were to get outraged about something, though, it would be that this guy:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie

is not receiving any attention at all since his recent death, despite being (very arguably) as influential, if not very much moreso, than Steve Jobs. It's quite sad, in my opinion, that people are pissed about a publishing company not paying attention to the design of Jobs' autobiography, but at the same time are completely oblivious to the death of one of the founding fathers of modern computer science.

Edit:

+ Show Spoiler +
not to deface this blog but the fact that people seriously think that the CEO of a company that sells overpriced computers "sacrificed profits for design" is rather funny. You can't seriously say Apple sacrifices profits for design when their computers are routinely hundreds of dollars more expensive than their hardware-equivalent PC counterparts.


In my AMA thread, someone asked me who was more important: Steve Jobs or Dennis Ritchie.

I replied, "Dennis Ritchie, without any shred of doubt."
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 26 2011 14:36 GMT
#96
On October 25 2011 20:36 Boblion wrote:
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On October 25 2011 15:02 thedeadhaji wrote:
The publisher's name rose to #3 on Twitter's trending topics this evening, due to outrage from a subset of the Japanese internet population.

Is that a Japanese thing ? Something about the culture and their respect of dead ppl ?
I mean in Europe nobody cares if a book is "defaced".


On October 26 2011 03:52 Inori wrote:
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On October 25 2011 12:27 JWD wrote:
Apparently nobody cares for detail anymore? Some of the reactions to this blog are fucking depressing. Like, unless the earth is shaking thedeadhaji can't make a critical blogpost?

Critical blogpost is one thing, saying something is "defaced" when most of the people can't even notice the difference is a little bit on the overreacting side, don't you think?

Also I find it ironic that people rage over the fact that somebody tries to maximize profit from a book that is about a person who made his career by maximizing profit.



Believe it or not, I'm encouraged by the fact that 80% of you are flaming me, since it means that you're not just blindly believing what I say.

Sadly I would answer Boblion by saying that the Japanese are a society that is prone to bandwagoning.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 26 2011 14:38 GMT
#97
On October 25 2011 20:48 Boonbag wrote:
Well to be really honest, the cover isn't nothing close to an artpiece to begin with. The portrait while beeing i guess quite famous is quite shitty, and I actually think crazy japanese consumers own that kind of right to transform anything that's shown to them with their crazy visual mania, because they like it better this way.

Apple is far from beeing any design king, unless you consider their items as work of art.

I mean 70 years from now people will look at the iphones / ipad like a fat big clunky piece of plastic, just like any other phone.


True. we're probably going to have shit embedded in our bodies so we don't have to carry anything around

edit 2 : also every piece of biography I ever read on him would always tell the same aka him beeing an arrogant and self illuminated asshole, and that doesn't help


I would never want to be a manager like Steve Jobs, and I don't think I have the personality traits to do the kinds of things he did to people. ( I wrote a blog on this but it's in japanese)

One article that lists some of his inhumane acts: http://www.livemint.com/2011/10/21004530/Not-a-very-nice-man-to-know.html
HardMacro
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada361 Posts
October 26 2011 16:01 GMT
#98
Wtf? I thought they photoshopped genitalia or something onto the cover, but cropping/changing bg color/font/etc. = defacing?

Seriously?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ saving this here because I use it, don't know how to make it, and don't know it's name
Jeremyy
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada182 Posts
October 26 2011 16:20 GMT
#99
Not a big deal at all...
Where's the pleasure in that?
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
October 26 2011 16:47 GMT
#100
EGADS!
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