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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Theres a very strong American named Gata Kamsky that could become the best however. Great article though. Amazed by how well OP related the history of BW to chess, even though the former has been around for a VERY short amount of time compared to chess. | ||
s4life
Peru1519 Posts
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On October 01 2011 06:47 Gruesome wrote: The only thing I would want to add is that while Kasparov is statistically the best of Chess, he himself has stated that he felt that Bobby was the greatest player ever for his brilliancies and the gap that he created between himself and his "peers". I remember reading an article from Garry in which he basically accounted for "rating inflation" and showed that at the time that Garry came closest to breaking the 3000 ELO barrier, that Bobby's demolition of his peers, had the average ratings been similar to the time of the article, would have put Bobby around 3200... I think in the long run that Garry's prolonged dominance and ground-breaking research with Chess databases give him a very strong argument as "best ever". But I like to remind people that for the brief time that Bobby was on top, his like had never been seen before or since. Too bad he was nuts... (or maybe the two were hand-in-hand) Do you have a link? -- This is the only interview of Kasparov Re:Fischer that I found. http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1798 Basically he thought Fischer did not accept a match with Karpov because he was afraid to lose -- he hadn't played chess in three years. Anyway, all those comparisons between players of different eras are completely bogus and useless. Still, Fischer was such a hard worker, it took the coming of the computer era to produce another Fischer-like player -- Carlsen.. which comes back to the OP's point | ||
EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
I'm someone interested in chess who didn't play Brood war, but I've been trying to get into watching it and learning the history of it, so this is pretty awesome. | ||
BookTwo
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
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phyllis
Denmark41 Posts
On October 01 2011 02:59 Ack1027 wrote: As someone who is somewhat interested in the chess world and heavily invested in bw progaming this was a very cool article to read. Got me to wiki a lot of the older chess players I have never heard about. Also interesting to note that even though there are many similarities it doesn't look like korean's hold on bw will ever loosen simply due to bw's popularity level. Whereas Russians hold has been slipping. Only criticism I would have is that I'm not sure what I'm exactly supposed to take away from the graphs. That they had similar performances? Oh..and the overexaggeration of savior but pretty much everyone on TL does this. I think the OP meant that at the time sAviOr started to dominate, the TvZ matchup heavily favored Terran, due to the maps etc. From what I understand at the time Bobby Fischer was around, chess was dominated by the russians, and he was the first american world champion in chess. | ||
Amornthep
Singapore2605 Posts
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On October 03 2011 17:15 Fontong wrote: Great read, but didn't shark invent muta micro? Kind of unfair to take away his only major contribution... Shark didn't "invent muta micro". he discovered muta stacking, which was developed much further by his teammate July. | ||
s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On October 01 2011 02:59 Ack1027 wrote: As someone who is somewhat interested in the chess world and heavily invested in bw progaming this was a very cool article to read. Got me to wiki a lot of the older chess players I have never heard about. Also interesting to note that even though there are many similarities it doesn't look like korean's hold on bw will ever loosen simply due to bw's popularity level. Whereas Russians hold has been slipping. Only criticism I would have is that I'm not sure what I'm exactly supposed to take away from the graphs. That they had similar performances? Oh..and the overexaggeration of savior but pretty much everyone on TL does this. Heh... You must have missed the fact that he was the only zerg player winning 'anything' for 20 months or so... | ||
reincremate
China2210 Posts
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TheSurgeonTV
United States131 Posts
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Gruesome
United States84 Posts
On October 03 2011 06:17 s4life wrote: Do you have a link? -- This is the only interview of Kasparov Re:Fischer that I found. http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1798 Basically he thought Fischer did not accept a match with Karpov because he was afraid to lose -- he hadn't played chess in three years. Sorry, no link. Just a very old memory of reading it in a publication. (Pre-web) I think I might still have a decade of Chess Life from the 80s in the basement somewhere. | ||
Scrutinizer
170 Posts
The thing that I disagree with the most is well put by the comment below. On October 01 2011 16:39 oBlade wrote: There is a small problem because stylistically Kasparov should be analogous to Jaedong and Karpov would be Flash, but in terms of Kasparov supplanting Karpov, Flash replaced Jaedong at the top. sAviOr/Fischer is especially apt. Particularly the intrigue they still inspire even when no longer playing their games professionally. I wonder where Petrosian and Spassky fit, as Midas and Nal_ra? (Pringles 1). | ||
khaosis
Canada96 Posts
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Muffinman53
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VGhost
United States3606 Posts
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
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nimiedad
Germany11 Posts
Really nice work. | ||
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