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SkelA
Macedonia13086 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On October 01 2011 18:10 fyyer wrote: The blog layout was good, and the amount of work put into it was good as well. I think the comparisons are pretty laughable though. For example Fischer dedicated his whole life to Chess, even after he "retired", he was still studying tournament games and trying to find improvements in people's games. He was obsessed. Bobby Fischer hated the collusion (calling it outright cheating) the Soviets were doing when they would agree to short draws with each other. Fischer was also arguably the best ever at Blitz Chess (fast chess). Savior on the other hand is a slow APM BW player, and was proven to collude with other Koreans for profit. If Fischer himself would have played BW, he would have hated Savior. What Botvinnik brought to the table was the idea of serious game preparation before a match. Before Botvinnik, home preparation was an after-thought, post Botvinnik it was taken very seriously. I don't recall July ever being known for studying his opponents and preparing accordingly. Karpov was a slow "constricting" positional Chess player, Jaedong is a wildly aggressive BW player. The only relation Jaedong and Flash have with their respective chess players you assigned them to is Jaedong is always #2 behind Flash, just like Karpov was always #2 behind Kasparov. Morphy completely dominated EVERYONE during his days. He was also the most well versed in openings for his era. He literally couldn't be stopped while he played. USA couldn't stop him and when he went to Europe to challenge their best, they couldn't stop him. He was so good compared to his peers infact, that he at a certain point refused to play anyone unless he was given a handicap (usually by starting the game a pawn or knight down). Grrr.... massed carriers. I could go on and on, but since you added this disclaimer, I guess it's alright: I think these comparisons minimize the amount of studying and preparation Chess players do. There is so much more effort involved with far less gains. In general though, good effort. Jaedong isn't that aggressive when you compare him to players like Shine, Eff0rt or Kwanro. He is more I should say, opportunistic and spontaneous. Flash is one of the Terrans that does not play a slow constricting style, he is actually extremely aggressive and will always try to end games whenever the opportunity arises. Compare this to Fantasy who constricts the player through-out the whole game setting up early contains and dropping like crazy until the player has no economy left, that's a constrictive style. Flash almost never does contains, he just moves out and obliterates everything as fast as he can. If Flash isn't cheesing, he is making extremely aggressive expansions (14cc) and teching extremely hard (valkonic/double armory), as soon as he scans carriers, he will and send out his entire army at once and take out all 6 bases at the same time. If he scouts a 12 nexus, he will bunker rush, if he plays on Heartbreak ridge and scouts a 12 hatch, he will bunker rush. Flash probably has the highest number of bunker rushes against both Zerg and Protoss in the past few years, and he often does them in finals. Flash is one of the most aggressive players in this era of BroodWar. Flash is just known for being a very uninteresting un-dynamic player, his attacks are so powerful often he just ends the game as soon as he moves out, or he will just sit on 3 bases which he managed to obtain with 1 factory, and wait until the Protoss makes an expansion too early or switches to carriers, in which case Flash will end the game within the next 10 seconds. You also forget that Flash was known for his cheese back in his early days.  It annoyed a lot of people, a notable person (can't remember who it was) mentioned in a interview (or twitter maybe?) that Flash's play reeked of boxer-esque cheese. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
No need to elaborate this further because this has been discussed a million times, so just let me say that this article was a very entertaining read and you did a great job. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
. I was just sad to see no Kingdom or Stork(!). 5/5edit: My bad, Stork is mentioned. But no Kingdom  . I think every other great player I think of when I think of bw history was mentioned though. | ||
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Khenra
Netherlands885 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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FragRaptor
United States184 Posts
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Hyyde
United States43 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
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tehguy
United States41 Posts
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
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Kaminoan
Chile25 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On October 01 2011 02:47 whatthefat wrote: Similarly, Broodwar went through a transformative change with the landmark patch 1.08 in 2000. 1.08 came out in May 2001. GoRush had a long and successful Broodwar history, winning the World Cyber Games in 2000, before temporarily taking a break. In 2000, when GoRush won, the event was titled "World Cyber Game Challenge". | ||
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Mothra
United States1448 Posts
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United States10328 Posts
On October 02 2011 11:54 Mothra wrote: I've always thought Boxer and Morphy run pretty parallel. on second thought, this is pretty true | ||
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ggggbabybabybaby
Canada304 Posts
Flash should've been Deep Blue though! | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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Vod.kaholic
United States1052 Posts
Great work though! | ||
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