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SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
October 01 2011 07:15 GMT
#121
Just incredible! Really good job you did!
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 01 2011 07:22 GMT
#122
I don't play either game all though I have played both. Really baller article and a nice read regardless
Thales
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States27 Posts
October 01 2011 07:39 GMT
#123
By far the best post I've read in a long time!! Well done!
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6388 Posts
October 01 2011 07:39 GMT
#124
There is a small problem because stylistically Kasparov should be analogous to Jaedong and Karpov would be Flash, but in terms of Kasparov supplanting Karpov, Flash replaced Jaedong at the top. sAviOr/Fischer is especially apt. Particularly the intrigue they still inspire even when no longer playing their games professionally.

I wonder where Petrosian and Spassky fit, as Midas and Nal_ra? (Pringles 1).
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
October 01 2011 07:41 GMT
#125
Whatthefat deserves a star. After the gift of the SQ formula to the SC world, perhaps one of the most fantastic contributions since APM, it's impossible to imagine him without one. This article clearly casts away any doubt the TL mods may have about issuing such a boon.
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qck
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom201 Posts
October 01 2011 07:50 GMT
#126
Brilliant read, thanks a lot for putting this together.
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Ventil
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden414 Posts
October 01 2011 08:12 GMT
#127
Sweet article. Really interesting and mindblowing to see the similarities between the two scenes!
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 08:18:44
October 01 2011 08:15 GMT
#128
This is really cool.

Maybe also include the correlation between Kasparov's preparation and Flash's preparation. Flash's analysis of players and preparation before games is unparalleled in the Starcraft scene. It's the reason he rarely gets silvers in the grand finals. Flash always brings something new (but still amazingly solid) to every grand final, that makes even the best players look terrible.
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IGotPlayguuu
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy660 Posts
October 01 2011 08:34 GMT
#129
aahah very good post !
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
October 01 2011 08:56 GMT
#130
That was a very entertaining read, thank you.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
October 01 2011 09:06 GMT
#131
This is awesome, especially since the innovations of Fischer and Morphy are some of my favorites ever. I love it.
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fyyer
Profile Joined February 2010
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 09:28:11
October 01 2011 09:10 GMT
#132
The blog layout was good, and the amount of work put into it was good as well. I think the comparisons are pretty laughable though. For example

Fischer dedicated his whole life to Chess, even after he "retired", he was still studying tournament games and trying to find improvements in people's games. He was obsessed. Bobby Fischer hated the collusion (calling it outright cheating) the Soviets were doing when they would agree to short draws with each other. Fischer was also arguably the best ever at Blitz Chess (fast chess). Savior on the other hand is a slow APM BW player, and was proven to collude with other Koreans for profit. If Fischer himself would have played BW, he would have hated Savior.

What Botvinnik brought to the table was the idea of serious game preparation before a match. Before Botvinnik, home preparation was an after-thought, post Botvinnik it was taken very seriously. I don't recall July ever being known for studying his opponents and preparing accordingly.

Karpov was a slow "constricting" positional Chess player, Jaedong is a wildly aggressive BW player. The only relation Jaedong and Flash have with their respective chess players you assigned them to is Jaedong is always #2 behind Flash, just like Karpov was always #2 behind Kasparov.

Morphy completely dominated EVERYONE during his days. He was also the most well versed in openings for his era. He literally couldn't be stopped while he played. USA couldn't stop him and when he went to Europe to challenge their best, they couldn't stop him. He was so good compared to his peers infact, that he at a certain point refused to play anyone unless he was given a handicap (usually by starting the game a pawn or knight down). Grrr.... massed carriers.


I could go on and on, but since you added this disclaimer, I guess it's alright:

I decided to write a mostly non-serious account of their respective histories and the intertwined stories of their greatest players



I think these comparisons minimize the amount of studying and preparation Chess players do. There is so much more effort involved with far less gains. In general though, good effort.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 01 2011 09:12 GMT
#133
i absolutely dig the paralels

great read!
In the woods, there lurks..
Sixotanaka
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia191 Posts
October 01 2011 09:27 GMT
#134
I've always compared Capablanca and Grr... The way neither of them practiced very much, but still naturally owned the game. To later be surpassed by those who spent all their time on the game.
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
October 01 2011 09:53 GMT
#135
That was a great read!
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 01 2011 10:24 GMT
#136
when i play chess, i really compare and use broodwar tactics and strategy in it. thank you for this entertaining article
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HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
October 01 2011 10:31 GMT
#137
Another article that I clicked out of boredom and thought of having a high chance of TLDR after the first paragraph, but I actually read through it word by word.

Great article. BW for another 500 years!!!
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.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
October 01 2011 10:47 GMT
#138
too bad there's no reach comparison after all, he was one of rare (or only protoss) to achieve something from 02-05
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Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
October 01 2011 11:18 GMT
#139
Find it strange that none of these were compared with Magnus Carlsen (Him being rank 1 and all)
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
Sterling
Profile Joined December 2009
United States182 Posts
October 01 2011 12:07 GMT
#140
This is the best post I've seen on the internet. No kidding!

Amazing! Wow
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