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On August 25 2011 12:03 BlueHydra wrote:Outclass? he just did early game pushes that every zerg has trouble with.
He did those pushes after doing early damage in each of everyone of these 3 games, knowing very well that he was far ahead. The key to those games were early pressure that did major (!) damage. And yeah, getting 10+ kills with reapers is outclassing IMO
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Destiny loses and immediately gets placed against Tarson in 1v1 lol...
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On August 25 2011 12:04 Juvant wrote: Good series, very good early aggression from Major. I wish he and Destiny played/practiced together a lot. Think that would be supremely helpful to Destiny's early game. This.
Good series!
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Can anyone give a summary on the banter/chat at the start of this game? Can't read it on my iphone Edit: Against tarson... Lol.. All the same, any takers? "
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LOL why are all these people talking about outclassing destiny? All major did was early timing pushes, give me a break. destiny won the macro game, which was the first, major saw he couldnt beat him in a macro game so he does early strong terran pushes that any zerg loses to, and if ur a zerg, you would know that any zerg can lose to them, just ask idra.
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This series reminds me of something Day9 said. If your late game is really strong, it's because you're cutting corners in the early/mid. If you're really weak in the early game, sacrifice a little bit of that late game strength by playing more conservative in the early game.
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On August 25 2011 12:08 BlueHydra wrote: LOL why are all these people talking about outclassing destiny? All major did was early timing pushes, give me a break. destiny won the macro game, which was the first, major saw he couldnt beat him in a macro game so he does early strong terran pushes that any zerg loses to, and if ur a zerg, you would know that any zerg can lose to them, just ask idra.
Destiny lost the "macro game" first game, was behind the entire game, and only won because he literally hit one fungal.
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On August 25 2011 12:10 LicH. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 12:08 BlueHydra wrote: LOL why are all these people talking about outclassing destiny? All major did was early timing pushes, give me a break. destiny won the macro game, which was the first, major saw he couldnt beat him in a macro game so he does early strong terran pushes that any zerg loses to, and if ur a zerg, you would know that any zerg can lose to them, just ask idra. Destiny lost the "macro game" first game, was behind the entire game, and only won because he literally hit one fungal.
So you really think he only won that game because of the fungal? lol
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On August 25 2011 12:08 BlueHydra wrote: LOL why are all these people talking about outclassing destiny? All major did was early timing pushes, give me a break. destiny won the macro game, which was the first, major saw he couldnt beat him in a macro game so he does early strong terran pushes that any zerg loses to, and if ur a zerg, you would know that any zerg can lose to them, just ask idra.
Because losing 5 drones to a single early-game reaper scout is standard zerg play.
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I think it;s unfair to say he can;t beat him in a macro game. A couple nights ago he did just that on Destiny's stream, very long multi based game. You need to pressure the zerg before their economy gets out of hand, and because he did so much with his pressure, there was no way for Destiny to take it to a macro game.
There were no all ins in the whole series, Major never had a do or die moment, he was always looking for an opportunity to expand behind his attacks. I think it's unfair to say that because his pressure timing ended the game, there's is an indication that he's afraid of a macro game against Destiny.
That being said, Destiny is definitely more in his element the farther the game goes.
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On August 25 2011 12:08 BlueHydra wrote: LOL why are all these people talking about outclassing destiny? All major did was early timing pushes, give me a break. destiny won the macro game, which was the first, major saw he couldnt beat him in a macro game so he does early strong terran pushes that any zerg loses to, and if ur a zerg, you would know that any zerg can lose to them, just ask idra. Lets say Major can only win with timing pushes, but Destiny can only win by turling to infestor/broodlord on shattered temple. I think we both know which takes more skill :/
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On August 25 2011 12:11 BlueHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 12:10 LicH. wrote:On August 25 2011 12:08 BlueHydra wrote: LOL why are all these people talking about outclassing destiny? All major did was early timing pushes, give me a break. destiny won the macro game, which was the first, major saw he couldnt beat him in a macro game so he does early strong terran pushes that any zerg loses to, and if ur a zerg, you would know that any zerg can lose to them, just ask idra. Destiny lost the "macro game" first game, was behind the entire game, and only won because he literally hit one fungal. So you really think he only won that game because of the fungal? lol
Yep
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gaah i missed this. Are replays or VODs out anywhere?
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On August 25 2011 12:14 Jinivus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 12:08 BlueHydra wrote: LOL why are all these people talking about outclassing destiny? All major did was early timing pushes, give me a break. destiny won the macro game, which was the first, major saw he couldnt beat him in a macro game so he does early strong terran pushes that any zerg loses to, and if ur a zerg, you would know that any zerg can lose to them, just ask idra. Lets say Major can only win with timing pushes, but Destiny can only win by turling to infestor/broodlord on shattered temple. I think we both know which takes more skill :/
Are you implying that late game TvZ takes less skill than early game timing pushes? i hope thats a joke..
Also, turtling? his play is hardly turtling. if thats turtling i dont know what you would call manas pvz.
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Apparently, Mr. Bonnell didn't listen to white-ra with his now famous quote, "more gg, more skill" It's always funny when Destiny dies to pokes and then rages at "cheese", i don't care how big of a fanboy you are, no way to deny that he got crushed in those games. Nice Play major!
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On August 25 2011 12:16 BlueHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 12:14 Jinivus wrote:On August 25 2011 12:08 BlueHydra wrote: LOL why are all these people talking about outclassing destiny? All major did was early timing pushes, give me a break. destiny won the macro game, which was the first, major saw he couldnt beat him in a macro game so he does early strong terran pushes that any zerg loses to, and if ur a zerg, you would know that any zerg can lose to them, just ask idra. Lets say Major can only win with timing pushes, but Destiny can only win by turling to infestor/broodlord on shattered temple. I think we both know which takes more skill :/ Are you implying that late game TvZ takes less skill than early game timing pushes? i hope thats a joke.. Also, turtling? his play is hardly turtling. if thats turtling i dont know what you would call manas pvz.
if 2 base infestor broodlord isn't turtling then I don't know what is. You've obviously never played against destiny yourself
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On August 25 2011 12:20 LicH. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 12:16 BlueHydra wrote:On August 25 2011 12:14 Jinivus wrote:On August 25 2011 12:08 BlueHydra wrote: LOL why are all these people talking about outclassing destiny? All major did was early timing pushes, give me a break. destiny won the macro game, which was the first, major saw he couldnt beat him in a macro game so he does early strong terran pushes that any zerg loses to, and if ur a zerg, you would know that any zerg can lose to them, just ask idra. Lets say Major can only win with timing pushes, but Destiny can only win by turling to infestor/broodlord on shattered temple. I think we both know which takes more skill :/ Are you implying that late game TvZ takes less skill than early game timing pushes? i hope thats a joke.. Also, turtling? his play is hardly turtling. if thats turtling i dont know what you would call manas pvz. if 2 base infestor broodlord isn't turtling then I don't know what is. You've obviously never played against destiny yourself
What do you suggest all zergs do before mutas are up, or broodlord/infestor?
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On August 25 2011 12:15 imBLIND wrote: gaah i missed this. Are replays or VODs out anywhere?
If you want the VODs right now, you can view the highlights on TwitchTV. If you wish to use YouTube for whatever reason the very same highlights will be uploaded to http://youtube.com/RageQuitTV
If you don't like my casting Ascend and Thundertoss also covered the event, however I don't know where their VODs are.
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On August 25 2011 12:08 BlueHydra wrote: LOL why are all these people talking about outclassing destiny? All major did was early timing pushes, give me a break. destiny won the macro game, which was the first, major saw he couldnt beat him in a macro game so he does early strong terran pushes that any zerg loses to, and if ur a zerg, you would know that any zerg can lose to them, just ask idra.
Blind Destiny fanboy detected. Proceed with caution.
I love Destiny's tactics, don't get me wrong. Just his play is very unrefined still.
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I'm in no way biased towards either player, but strictly from facts, I'm not surprised with the results. MajOr is basically showing Destiny the gap between being just a high-level ladder player and a real Pro... MajOr has way more refinement to his play than Destiny....and he showed it. And to all the people saying MajOr is afraid of a macro game...you haven't seen enough of his games yet then...
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