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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway. Leave the racial bias at the door while you are at it as well pretty please. | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On July 18 2011 11:56 MK4512 wrote: He's a dick, but a good player. Don't pay him for his placing in the tournament and be done with it. to be fair, it says SEA acc. owner. lol... not after screenshots of that chat. consequences are in order I'd figure. | ||
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Bayyne
United States1967 Posts
If he was caught hacking/cheating/etc, then there are bigger issues. But this, meh, just a dumb move. | ||
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
On July 18 2011 11:56 MK4512 wrote: He's a dick, but a good player. Don't pay him for his placing in the tournament and be done with it. to be fair, it says SEA acc. owner. It was stated to him very clearly that you needed to be a citizen. I don't think there was any grey area or misunderstanding that major wasn't supposed to play in the tournament... -_- | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
What a wanker, grow up kiddo. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On July 18 2011 11:53 ffadicted wrote: Because I honestly cannot understand how it isn't obvious to everyone that having the most skill in your tournament = having the best tournament? It's his money, he can do what he wants, sure... but that doesn't mean what he's doing makes any sense, he only hurts the validity of what he's hosting. Why he would ever want to put forth money to make something and then blatantly chose to not have it be the best it can be. Alright this conversation can go straight back to my first response to you. If (for example, I am not saying this is the motivation) they want to support the SEA scene... then THIS would be a good way to help support it and get some SEA players on the map if they are currently struggling, and possibly get more people in the scene. What are you not understanding? | ||
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matthras
Australia32 Posts
On July 18 2011 11:45 ffadicted wrote: Isn't this the exact same argument people have over inviting koreans to MLG/NASL/etc?? And it's been widely agreed that it's much better to open up tournaments for everyone who wants to participate no matter where they live/are born/currently play? I'm pretty sure it's largely agreed that inviting koreans is a good decision, and it's the same issue here. I'm all for limiting people based on whether or not they are pros/what league they're in just so it's not a massive skill level difference, but not letting major participate just because he's not from SEA is a silly decision in general. The fact remains that SEA has never had a local tournament that is on the scale of MLG/NASL. If we did, then yes, I agree it would be a silly decision to exclude people from other countries. As previously mentioned, one of the intentions of the tournament was 'community building' and I'm sure you already know that SEA has a vastly smaller community (and if you've spent time on SC2SEA, you'll find it's fairly tight knit) as opposed to NA and EU. I'm not trying to say that because SEA is small, that we should keep to ourselves. I just feel that if we had people not native to the SEA server stomping all over our tournaments, the SEA community would just suffer. The fact remains that Fenix and the Koreans who registered accepted Dox's clarification of the rules, whereas MajOr did not. There's nothing more to argue there. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On July 18 2011 11:53 ffadicted wrote: Because I honestly cannot understand how it isn't obvious to everyone that having the most skill in your tournament = having the best tournament? It's his money, he can do what he wants, sure... but that doesn't mean what he's doing makes any sense, he only hurts the validity of what he's hosting. Why he would ever want to put forth money to make something and then blatantly chose to not have it be the best it can be. these tournaments aren't full of pro players like nasl or mlg are. you think letting someone of major's calibre come and roflstomp his way to a small local $500 tournament would somehow be conducive to building the SEA scene? i'd imagine it'd actually be demoralising to people who aren't as committed to playing competitively as na/eu pros (who wouldn't be turned off by puma winning nasl or mma winning mlg). the best tournaments are the most competitive ones, not the ones that have the best players possible. do you think if a tournament comprised solely of my diamond friends would be better, or one with my friends + MC? yeah.... | ||
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HitMonkie
Australia518 Posts
On July 18 2011 11:53 ffadicted wrote: Because I honestly cannot understand how it isn't obvious to everyone that having the most skill in your tournament = having the best tournament? It's his money, he can do what he wants, sure... but that doesn't mean what he's doing makes any sense, he only hurts the validity of what he's hosting. Why he would ever want to put forth money to make something and then blatantly chose to not have it be the best it can be. I think you should stop posting in this Thread. Every time you do, It makes you look even more ignorant. Edit: And a dick move by Major but not to be expected. He is a douche. | ||
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
He has been an immature fuck since SC1 though, I wish he would just do everyone a favor and disappear from the SC2 scene. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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dookudooku
255 Posts
On July 18 2011 11:51 nvs. wrote: maybe you should look up the definition of mistake. This was no mistake, he knew exactly what he was doing. He's done it before in the past, and he will do it again. Mistakes don't have to be accidental or unintentional. Micheal Vick's involvement in dog-fighting was a mistake. Raping or murdering someone is a mistake. These are errors or faults resulting from defective judgement. That being said, saying something like "I made a mistake" or "I made an error in judgement" are a lot nicer sounding than "I screwed up" or "I committed a crime". | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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nathangonmad
United Kingdom316 Posts
On July 18 2011 12:02 Enki wrote: He also told him in that chatlog that is from AUS, which he isnt, rofl. He has been an immature fuck since SC1 though, I wish he would just do everyone a favor and disappear from the SC2 scene. But he makes so many command centres. Its good to watch  | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On July 18 2011 11:59 IcedBacon wrote: Yep not a big deal, tournament organizers neglected to put the 'SEA citizen' in the most important place, which is the tournament thread itself. Not everyone checks the tournament calendar. Sure he was a bit of a dick by still playing under a different name after being told he couldn't play, but the rules stated beforehand should've made him eligible to participate. A little bad on both sides. Yeah, this. Tournament organizers need to learn that players only check threads and not their actual conversations with the players. Otherwise the players are permitted to show blatant disrespect towards them. God when are people that give to their communities going to learn... | ||
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
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Blademage
United States128 Posts
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Strike_
Netherlands704 Posts
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