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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
November 20 2006 22:11 GMT
#1
Does anyone here play this board game?


Is there a simple program that will allow people to play via TCP/IP or a server or something?


I understand that there is a handicap system, in that case, it should be interesting to play with me even if I have never played before? Does anyone feel like playing this game online with me?
DANCE ALL DAY
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-20 23:14:46
November 20 2006 23:13 GMT
#2
Hello Grot! You should be on MSN more often!

First of all, http://www.playgo.to/interactive - go through this one, it will get you familiar with the rules and some basic concepts.

Second, go to http://senseis.xmp.net (it's the most amazing wiki I've seen, regardless of subject ).

As for Go Servers: The two major go servers are:
IGS - http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/
and
KGS - http://www.gokgs.com/

To play on IGS you need to download glGo (available from the site I linked) and register an account, IGS has quite a lot of users but the average level is pretty high (for a beginner). Still, you can find enough beginners there

To play KGS, you just go to the site and click play go. It's java, and you can play as a guest or register an account.

There's many, many other servers (search go servers on senseis.xmp.net for a list and description) - chinese, korean, japanese, but these two should be enough (IGS is international/japanese and KGS international).

Other good sites:
http://www.gobase.org (message me on msn, you can use my ID)

http://www.goproblems.com (excellent practice)

I'm not exactly strong myself (I'm 22+kyu on IGS.. which is basically half a step above the starting rank ) with a 60-68 record.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Shymon
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States620 Posts
November 21 2006 00:28 GMT
#3
Imho, KGS is by far and away a better enviroment for a beginer to pick up go, even more so if you don't speak japanese or korean. KGS has a really good teaching game system that allows you to redo and adjust the position so if you find a teacher to help you out the software makes it really easy for them. Also, much like chess beginers it's best not to get hung up on memorizing openings...ie leave the joeseki (standardized corner responses) study till you are at a level that not knowing it actually hurts you every game. I haven't played in a while but if you want someone to give you a couple very very very basic teaching games i play at around 10-13k kgs so i could at least show you the ropes and some basic tactics.

bah and reading now i see fa didn't actually explain the handicap/rating system. The lowest rank is 30 kyu, the highest kyu rank is 1 kyu with a 1 stone handicap per level. ie if a 18k played a 16k, he would be black and two back stones would be played on the board to make the game even.

above the kyu's are the dan ranks, and they go UP with 1dan being low (but still above 1 kyu) and 9 dan being highest.

then there are the professional ranks which go from 1 dan pro to 9 dan pro (all generally considered higher then amatuer 9 dan, but in reality that might not be always the case). pro's get their ranks differently depending if they play in japan korea or china, at the very top level of play it's belived that the koreans are the strongest of the professional ranks of go players.
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
November 21 2006 16:26 GMT
#4
thanks a million guys, you are tremendously helpful <3<3<3
DANCE ALL DAY
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 21 2006 18:30 GMT
#5
19999....... in 20000 they say time freezes and computers go crazy and the world will end....
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Baduk
Profile Joined November 2006
France7 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-21 19:33:08
November 21 2006 19:32 GMT
#6
Hello,
you can also look at http://www.gofed.be/ and http://ffg.jeudego.org if you speak French.
It will give you the main internet links, some rules tutorial and the different places where you can play.

For those who want to follow the pro scene, you can look at http://igo-kisen.hp.infoseek.co.jp/news.html

I personnaly play on KGS (http://www.gokgs.com/), and I can create a TeamLiquid room if anybody is interested and (if I can use the forum name).

trombone on kgs
trombone on KGS
MarcX
Profile Joined February 2005
Netherlands772 Posts
November 21 2006 20:00 GMT
#7
I love go! Come play with me~~

diasomi@hotmail.com
KD14 on KGS (currently 13k)
«A fool and his freedom are soon parted» ~ Richard Stallman, Founder FSF
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
November 21 2006 20:25 GMT
#8
I also play on KGS and IGS (ExplO on both, 3k on both).

A TeamLiquid romm would be really nice.
Solstice[gm]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)76 Posts
November 21 2006 20:29 GMT
#9
On November 21 2006 07:11 GroT wrote:
Does anyone here play this board game?


Is there a simple program that will allow people to play via TCP/IP or a server or something?


I understand that there is a handicap system, in that case, it should be interesting to play with me even if I have never played before? Does anyone feel like playing this game online with me?


That's actually a bad idea, asking people to play you online. There's a big difference between playing online and playing with your opponent in front of your face.

I've played Go for around 3 years now, but you really can't learn the finer points of it without getting a real teacher. I'll play you on Yahoo! Go if you want. I won't be able to teach you much though T_T
Labor until you tire; and then labor some more.
Baduk
Profile Joined November 2006
France7 Posts
November 22 2006 01:23 GMT
#10
TeamLiquid room is created on kgs (http://www.gokgs.com/)

trombone on kgs
trombone on KGS
Solstice[gm]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)76 Posts
November 22 2006 02:07 GMT
#11
O_O I'm really impressed with this site ... how come I never saw this T_T
Labor until you tire; and then labor some more.
yare
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
507 Posts
November 22 2006 04:21 GMT
#12
i'm watchng a game on kgs.. it just looks like randomly placing these stones? i guess i'll go read what go's objectives are ^^
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
November 22 2006 05:58 GMT
#13
GroT didn't you want to play chess more competitively? Why are you starting baduk then?
Do your best, God will do the rest.
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-22 10:38:03
November 22 2006 10:30 GMT
#14
Grot and anyone else for that matter, I can play some teaching games. I'm currently a 1-dan on IGS. PM me if you are interested.

Playing live is easier to teach, but it is definitely doable online. It really helps your improvement when you have someone better comment on each move and the thought process behind it.

edit: I signed up for KGS, I'm there right now if anyone wants to play
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-22 11:37:55
November 22 2006 11:33 GMT
#15
GroT careful..

It is the most abstract strategy game of all. It some aspects it puts chess to shame.. It is so abstract there will never be a good AI program out there to even come close to master level, i.e. it is a game the suits the human mind, specially those that are good with abstract thinking and/or math. It is very hard to get good at it, it will take you at least 10 years, and it will eat more of your time than any other game you played before.

http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/Golinks.html
You will find a lot of useful links here ~
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
November 22 2006 12:24 GMT
#16
hehe, but that's it's appeal, no?
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
November 22 2006 13:15 GMT
#17
between starcraft, poker and go, I can stay in front of a computer for days and still be entertained.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
November 22 2006 16:02 GMT
#18
Isn't there an anime like dedicated to Go? Like hikaru something go.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
November 22 2006 16:49 GMT
#19
On November 22 2006 14:58 jkillashark wrote:
GroT didn't you want to play chess more competitively? Why are you starting baduk then?


Nono, I never said I was trying to play competetively, I am just playing one game per day against a computer opponent (still enjoying it, still never beat him but the games are taking longer every time)


The only game I'm trying to be competetive at is poker, and so far I've failed shamefully! (it's very hard just like getting good at chess or go would be)

On November 22 2006 20:33 Physician wrote:
GroT careful..

It is the most abstract strategy game of all. It some aspects it puts chess to shame.. It is so abstract there will never be a good AI program out there to even come close to master level, i.e. it is a game the suits the human mind, specially those that are good with abstract thinking and/or math. It is very hard to get good at it, it will take you at least 10 years, and it will eat more of your time than any other game you played before.

http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/Golinks.html
You will find a lot of useful links here ~


Surely I can enjoy the game without spending much time in it, I just want to play it for fun


chess and go are just fantastic games and I'd feel like it was a shame if I never played them. Even though I need to play as much poker as I can if I want to accomplish my goals, one game of chess a day and one game of go (maybe less than one a day, it seems the games take pretty long) won't hurt me
DANCE ALL DAY
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
November 22 2006 17:14 GMT
#20
StarCraft, Poker, Chess, and then Go. Man you're hitting all the high skilled games out there. Why don't you play another "high skilled game" called DotA? Hahahahahaha.

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Sorry if that offends anyone, but I am going to refuse to take off those quotations marks until my grave. ROAR
Do your best, God will do the rest.
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