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Z-BosoN says generic pro-town stuff, passively finger-points then goes to bed. Rainbows no like. On July 24 2013 15:21 Z-BosoN wrote: Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is. However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since... | ||
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On July 25 2013 02:30 Koshi wrote: I agree with you that I was a bit fluffy in my post. I find it strange that so many people jump on this FT wagon with the only reason being the "Kenpachi rule". I pointed out 2 people that went on that wagon really easily. But in 1 hour I will have a 1 on 1 with Lazermonkey, we will see what happens there. I generally don't like the Tofu wagon atm. Rayn was way more vocal about the VT claim than Tofu was, I find it strange that everybody wagoned onto Tofu instead. | ||
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On July 25 2013 02:32 Lazermonkey wrote: Rainbows, are you masoned with stutters? If not, I'm cool with stutters killing his partner. I am. | ||
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If Malongo is scum then he obviously wanted to make sure the KP from masoning was in scums hands and not towns, which is a very good option. However, he becomes known and is put under scrutiny. I don't know if you can PM the host to deny the killing or not, but why would he openly tell him that he was killing him if scum? Wouldn't he just wait for the kill-post and then explain to the thread? I'm not sure it makes him scum in that regard but it's something to question him about Now I dug this up from earlier. It might just be wording but I think it could be significant. 4 Malongo 07-24-2013 05:14 AM ET (US) hi Ryan. I am sorry, i asked to get you killed  . Nothing personal, i actually didnt knew it was you and just resent a hold up msg a minute ago (trying to revert the hit). ShiaoPis claim is null to me, more likely just a plain townie/dt trying to prevent a hit from the mafia, Z-Boson null for now. I think Lazermonkeys post is more of a threat.Again sorry if I cant hold the hit, I thought most the guys posting were already on contact (still 5/6 players to post), also thats why I posted "sorry i couldnt resist". Malongo uses the word "threat" as if he has some inherent guilty. Like he is trying to protect himself. He doesn't say suspicious or scummy but instead threat. That's really all I think about Malongo atm. Rayn is kinda scummy but active. Z-BosoN is clean with his posting but something is off imo. | ||
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I propose that we use the mason-killing ability as a double-lynch mechanic during the day. If we have two targets that are highly suspect, the person masoned with one can kill them off so we know the flip prior to lynching. This will influence the lynch for that day. That said, I do not think we should use this pseudo double-lynch day 1. Any thoughts? | ||
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But if scum use the shot then they will strike town and get weasel their way out of it. We don't want scum getting a free kp. We should make sure the kill is a consensus by town before lynch so we control it. That said, a scum who is about to get lynched will most certainly use it to kill off their mason if he is town. No reason not to. So we need to be careful. | ||
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Not day 1. Unless we have a billion good lynches. | ||
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On July 25 2013 02:56 Lazermonkey wrote: Well, that is a retarded policy Why? | ||
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On July 25 2013 02:54 Koshi wrote: Yeah, I would like to add the policy that you don't use the KP or if you do, you get lynched unless you strike scum. Then you are confirmed town and we all love you. I want to refer people to Chezinu in Nuclear using nukes on randoms as scum because he could. I want to refer to SnB using his skillshot on Ace because he could. (SnB is not confirmed scum in Sicilian though) Can I quote posts from other games? Marv says something very interesting about using your shot as scum. Oh THIS policy. Yeah it's retarded if the town has consensus. If you just randomly use it for LOLKILLHIMHESCUM and it's town then... wtf.... | ||
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On July 25 2013 03:10 Lazermonkey wrote: Regarding double lynch. If you are about to get mason-killed, then the correct play, no matter what alignment you, is to kill your mason partner before he kills you. If he flips scum, then whop-whop you are suddenly town once again. No townie would NOT do this making the move alignment unindicative (because scum would obviously do the same thing). Regarding policy lynching the mason who kills his partner and he flips town. Well, this is just bad. The same way you wouldn't lynch a vigi who kills town. Even though he might not kill scum he saves us one misslynch if he kills a top suspect. If he kills someone without a very good reason and that person flips town, then we should obviously look into that player. But policy lyncing someone who kills town is a big no-no! I think you're making Koshi's policy bigger than it is. He proposes we only kill random mason kills not on towns consensus. And that's fine, as long as nobody random kills. I want to use the mason-KP as a way of double lynch, and hopefully nobody fucks with that. Even if you are town and about to get lynched don't martyr-KP your mason, we can always do that later if he's suspicious. If you're about to get mason killed by the consensus of town and are town, think of it as a double lynch --- you're denying town information by denying your flip. Anyway, I think scum have more motivation to mason kill if they are about to be killed in any way lynch or otherwise. If you're town and strike town with your mason kill martyr-KP then only shit can ensue imo. | ||
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On July 25 2013 03:19 Z-BosoN wrote: Actually I think Lazermonkey makes a fair point. As a townie, the best play is to kill your mason pair before he kills you... "agreeing" to die if you are townie is pretty damn stupid. And scum will just do the same. Let's just leave the mason-kill as a vigi-shot and move on? I guess you're right. I just really don't want scum to use it as free KP. Oh and I think Rayn is scummier than Shaio because the VT claim is null. | ||
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But yeah I guess the policy doesn't really work because people love vigging other people. Especially on dates. | ||
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On July 25 2013 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ehh. Lazer, how does someone being a lynchbait if town make them town, or not worth lynching? Regarding the vigi-double-lynch discussion. Rainbows had a couple of really bad posts in that one. Explain. Was it a good or bad idea? Why or why not? Im at work so very little posts. | ||
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On July 25 2013 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think it's a good idea. People who are gonna get vig-lynched are obviously gonna shoot their mason partner if they fear they are close to getting shot and that's not alignment indicative at all. I especially did not like your post where you say "if you are town and getting vig-lynched you need to accept your death". That's ridiculous. If i was gonna get vig-lynched i was 100% gonna shoot my mason partner because i know i am town and i can't be 100% certain of them being town, so at least there is a possibility of shooting scum. What? Well I never thought of that tbh. I figured double lynch would be awesome for us d2 :/ ppl wont cpomply tho eh which is true. | ||
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If Dandel does jack shit all day ill policy lynch him because hes a wild card. | ||
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