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Spawning is now a part of SC2

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kidrobotx
Profile Joined March 2013
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 14:19:25
June 04 2013 16:33 GMT
#1
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/10145834
Many old-school RTS players remember what it was like to use one game disc to spawn in a second player. Back in the heyday of Warcraft II and the original StarCraft, you could bring a player (who didn’t yet own the game) into your game and play together. We called it Spawning, and we’re pleased to announce that Spawning is now available in StarCraft II.

Nowadays, anyone who hasn’t yet purchased StarCraft II can still play, thanks to the Starter Edition. While Starter Edition players have access to much of the game, there are many features that they previously couldn’t try before upgrading to the full game. Spawning closes that gap. Any player at a lower expansion level who joins a party that includes a player at a higher expansion level is Spawned up, and gets to play using the features and options of the highest expansion level for as long as they’re in a party together.

For example, when a Starter Edition player joins a party with a Wings of Liberty-level player, both are instantly playing Wings of Liberty. When those two players then join a party with a Heart of the Swarm-level player, they all immediately gain access to Heart of the Swarm content, and they keep that access until their party no longer includes any higher-expansion level players.

This is great news for those of us who have friends who want to play but don't know or can't commit to buying either SC2, HotS, or both. There's also a new achievement and portrait that you can see at the link, and a video that explains all of it.

edit:
Slasher did an interview regarding spawning
http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-talks-new-spawning-option-for-starcraft-ii-6409256
Blizzard Entertainment today introduced a system called spawning into Starcraft II, allowing its Starter Edition and Wings of Liberty players to be temporarily upgraded to Heart of the Swarm accounts when playing with friends.


GameSpot caught up with Blizzard Entertainment production director Chris Sigaty to discuss the move and what it means for the future of Starcraft II.

Why are you doing this?

There's a couple of things that are coming together here. There's spawning, and then there's Starter Edition. And Starter Edition is something that we've actually had for a while, but we have done, being self-critical, a poor job of making people aware of. We limit the race to Terran traditionally because we feel they're the most accessible to brand-new users coming into Starcraft II. But, starting today up until the end of Sunday, all three races are available. We will go back to one race being active, but then we'll have weekends with promotions to switch the race or have multiple races active at once.

Spawning has been a feature in Blizzard games since Warcraft II and Starcraft: Brood War. As such a Blizzard-specific feature, why has it taken so long for this to come to Starcraft II?

I think priorities. This was something we talked about in the past but never really had a good vision for it. We were working on important features for the core game as we did Heart of the Swarm, and a lot of the patches that followed up Wings of Liberty that added things like Masters and Grand Masters leagues. If you go across the patches they were all adding newly important functionality. Then Heart of The Swarm drops with a whole bunch of great stuff, including things that make life easier for players to find each other, take command, all the new replay functionality, all that stuff felt more important. Now that we've had the bandwidth to do this, it just felt like the right time now that we've finally had a little bit of air to breathe into this feature.

Beyond the bandwidth side, I think one of the things that Starcraft faces as a perception issue is being a really hardcore versus eSport. It's about the best of the best facing off against each other to show who's the better player. If you go back to Warcraft II, the original Starcraft, and then Warcraft III after it, I think there's a lot of nostalgic memories around just playing Big Game Hunters with a large group of friends, or playing in team games against each other where the pressure wasn't that. I think a feature like this will help bring down the perception that SCII is only a game about playing competitively and at a super-high skill level, and that there is a way to interface in SCII that's not so focused on who's the most elite player.

A few months ago you stated there were no plans for a multiplayer free-to-play Starcraft II. Do you believe the Starter Edition and spawning is the better way of going about putting the game out to the masses?

I don't know if it's a better way or not. But I think some of the pitches--and this is my personal view on it--free-to-play is a great concept for some games, but the way Starcraft II is built, it's just not designed for stuff like skin and that sort of stuff that players have suggested so far. For what we have today, this does feel like the right answer. Whether free-to-play as a consumer product versus a boxed product on which one is better, it's hard for me to judge that. For that we've built, and how we built it, the Starter Edition/spawned way seems like the best way we can make it accessible to players, and the widest group of players.

The idea is that the game is most fun when you play with your friends, and that's what this feature lets you do easily. In free-to-play, it's more about how am I interacting with the purchase of this game myself, where this feature is approaching it like "What's an easy way to get players to be able to play with their friends?"

Is there a possibility of having one-versus-one ladder play unlocked in the future?

As you have to be in a party, there's no current plans to have the one-versus-one ladder active at this time. We'll continue to look and see how this is successful, and who knows what the future holds, but right now we don't have any plans in that direction.

Based on previous spawnings in older games, do you have any guess on how many will use this, or how much the player base will increase?

I have zero idea. (laughs) I think this will help educate the existing community and they'll understand it is actually very easy to share and get people into SCII, where maybe they didn't understand that.

Do you think spawning is the best way to get these people into Starcraft II--those who have a notion of the game as a one-versus-one hardcore eSport?

I think so. Having a friend along to help steer you in the right places is a hope. When you came over to somebody's house to play the game with friends in the old days, and that person knew, not only were they helping you play the game even though you didn't own it, they were also helping educate you on the fun. I think this is a really good way of having a guide along with you--"Let's try this; let's go do this." Without it, you need to figure that out for yourself. Being with a friend has that benefit to it where you can have that guide, where you can go, what you can do, and what's fun.
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ColterTV
Profile Joined September 2010
Argentina163 Posts
June 04 2013 16:37 GMT
#2
Great feature, one step closer to 1998 :D
Anyway, it's a welcome feature of course
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o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
June 04 2013 16:37 GMT
#3
Great news. Always good to see more people being able to play.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
June 04 2013 16:37 GMT
#4
pretty cool thing.
sunshinehero
Profile Joined April 2012
Norway89 Posts
June 04 2013 16:38 GMT
#5
I thought it was a good idea, then they revealed that spawned players can not choose their race.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 04 2013 16:38 GMT
#6
More is good and I have a few friends I need to show the awesome stuff in HotS. I think it's time.
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Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
June 04 2013 16:41 GMT
#7
Meh, I thought this was an awesome thing, but then came the "only one race" limitation. Close, but no cigar.
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FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
June 04 2013 16:42 GMT
#8
Cant wait to play with my cheap friends now!
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kidrobotx
Profile Joined March 2013
United States7 Posts
June 04 2013 16:42 GMT
#9
On June 05 2013 01:41 Rannasha wrote:
Meh, I thought this was an awesome thing, but then came the "only one race" limitation. Close, but no cigar.

From what I understand, if you're spawning someone with Starter Edition they're still only limited to Terran, but WoL players still have access to all 3 races in HotS.
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o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 16:45:02
June 04 2013 16:43 GMT
#10
Also worth noting:

There's a new (Carbot, actually) portrait/achievement to accompany the change. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]]
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
June 04 2013 16:43 GMT
#11
Wow, PRETTY AMAZING!
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Erinyes
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany104 Posts
June 04 2013 16:43 GMT
#12
The technology is there - yet again

I really like this though, means I can finally invite a few friends of mine that don't have HOTS and didn't want to purchase it up to this point! Thank you for this awesome feature <3
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 16:44:53
June 04 2013 16:43 GMT
#13
woah sick , gonna tell my gf she should dl starter pack and im gonna play some arcade / teamgames with her, exciting!!!!!!!
yo
Hollandrock
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
June 04 2013 16:44 GMT
#14
This is so cool!
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
June 04 2013 16:46 GMT
#15
Still limited to just Terran? Seems weird.
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GudulesmSC2
Profile Joined May 2013
102 Posts
June 04 2013 16:47 GMT
#16
On June 05 2013 01:43 o29 wrote:
Also worth noting:

There's a new (Carbot, actually) portrait/achievement to accompany the change. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]]


That zergling is so cute.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 16:49:49
June 04 2013 16:49 GMT
#17
On June 05 2013 01:46 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Still limited to just Terran? Seems weird.

they said currently at this time only terran, mayb theyll change in the future
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habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
June 04 2013 16:50 GMT
#18
only terran, so a bit lame :/
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
June 04 2013 16:52 GMT
#19
On June 05 2013 01:43 o29 wrote:
Also worth noting:

There's a new (Carbot, actually) portrait/achievement to accompany the change. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]]

starting a petition for a carbot zergling portrait. maybe a marine with a sandwich, and an infestor with a hellion toy.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
June 04 2013 16:52 GMT
#20
What if other players have WoL, can they play other races in Hots?
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