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kidrobotx
Profile Joined March 2013
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 14:19:25
June 04 2013 16:33 GMT
#1
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/10145834
Many old-school RTS players remember what it was like to use one game disc to spawn in a second player. Back in the heyday of Warcraft II and the original StarCraft, you could bring a player (who didn’t yet own the game) into your game and play together. We called it Spawning, and we’re pleased to announce that Spawning is now available in StarCraft II.

Nowadays, anyone who hasn’t yet purchased StarCraft II can still play, thanks to the Starter Edition. While Starter Edition players have access to much of the game, there are many features that they previously couldn’t try before upgrading to the full game. Spawning closes that gap. Any player at a lower expansion level who joins a party that includes a player at a higher expansion level is Spawned up, and gets to play using the features and options of the highest expansion level for as long as they’re in a party together.

For example, when a Starter Edition player joins a party with a Wings of Liberty-level player, both are instantly playing Wings of Liberty. When those two players then join a party with a Heart of the Swarm-level player, they all immediately gain access to Heart of the Swarm content, and they keep that access until their party no longer includes any higher-expansion level players.

This is great news for those of us who have friends who want to play but don't know or can't commit to buying either SC2, HotS, or both. There's also a new achievement and portrait that you can see at the link, and a video that explains all of it.

edit:
Slasher did an interview regarding spawning
http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-talks-new-spawning-option-for-starcraft-ii-6409256
Blizzard Entertainment today introduced a system called spawning into Starcraft II, allowing its Starter Edition and Wings of Liberty players to be temporarily upgraded to Heart of the Swarm accounts when playing with friends.


GameSpot caught up with Blizzard Entertainment production director Chris Sigaty to discuss the move and what it means for the future of Starcraft II.

Why are you doing this?

There's a couple of things that are coming together here. There's spawning, and then there's Starter Edition. And Starter Edition is something that we've actually had for a while, but we have done, being self-critical, a poor job of making people aware of. We limit the race to Terran traditionally because we feel they're the most accessible to brand-new users coming into Starcraft II. But, starting today up until the end of Sunday, all three races are available. We will go back to one race being active, but then we'll have weekends with promotions to switch the race or have multiple races active at once.

Spawning has been a feature in Blizzard games since Warcraft II and Starcraft: Brood War. As such a Blizzard-specific feature, why has it taken so long for this to come to Starcraft II?

I think priorities. This was something we talked about in the past but never really had a good vision for it. We were working on important features for the core game as we did Heart of the Swarm, and a lot of the patches that followed up Wings of Liberty that added things like Masters and Grand Masters leagues. If you go across the patches they were all adding newly important functionality. Then Heart of The Swarm drops with a whole bunch of great stuff, including things that make life easier for players to find each other, take command, all the new replay functionality, all that stuff felt more important. Now that we've had the bandwidth to do this, it just felt like the right time now that we've finally had a little bit of air to breathe into this feature.

Beyond the bandwidth side, I think one of the things that Starcraft faces as a perception issue is being a really hardcore versus eSport. It's about the best of the best facing off against each other to show who's the better player. If you go back to Warcraft II, the original Starcraft, and then Warcraft III after it, I think there's a lot of nostalgic memories around just playing Big Game Hunters with a large group of friends, or playing in team games against each other where the pressure wasn't that. I think a feature like this will help bring down the perception that SCII is only a game about playing competitively and at a super-high skill level, and that there is a way to interface in SCII that's not so focused on who's the most elite player.

A few months ago you stated there were no plans for a multiplayer free-to-play Starcraft II. Do you believe the Starter Edition and spawning is the better way of going about putting the game out to the masses?

I don't know if it's a better way or not. But I think some of the pitches--and this is my personal view on it--free-to-play is a great concept for some games, but the way Starcraft II is built, it's just not designed for stuff like skin and that sort of stuff that players have suggested so far. For what we have today, this does feel like the right answer. Whether free-to-play as a consumer product versus a boxed product on which one is better, it's hard for me to judge that. For that we've built, and how we built it, the Starter Edition/spawned way seems like the best way we can make it accessible to players, and the widest group of players.

The idea is that the game is most fun when you play with your friends, and that's what this feature lets you do easily. In free-to-play, it's more about how am I interacting with the purchase of this game myself, where this feature is approaching it like "What's an easy way to get players to be able to play with their friends?"

Is there a possibility of having one-versus-one ladder play unlocked in the future?

As you have to be in a party, there's no current plans to have the one-versus-one ladder active at this time. We'll continue to look and see how this is successful, and who knows what the future holds, but right now we don't have any plans in that direction.

Based on previous spawnings in older games, do you have any guess on how many will use this, or how much the player base will increase?

I have zero idea. (laughs) I think this will help educate the existing community and they'll understand it is actually very easy to share and get people into SCII, where maybe they didn't understand that.

Do you think spawning is the best way to get these people into Starcraft II--those who have a notion of the game as a one-versus-one hardcore eSport?

I think so. Having a friend along to help steer you in the right places is a hope. When you came over to somebody's house to play the game with friends in the old days, and that person knew, not only were they helping you play the game even though you didn't own it, they were also helping educate you on the fun. I think this is a really good way of having a guide along with you--"Let's try this; let's go do this." Without it, you need to figure that out for yourself. Being with a friend has that benefit to it where you can have that guide, where you can go, what you can do, and what's fun.
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ColterTV
Profile Joined September 2010
Argentina163 Posts
June 04 2013 16:37 GMT
#2
Great feature, one step closer to 1998 :D
Anyway, it's a welcome feature of course
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o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
June 04 2013 16:37 GMT
#3
Great news. Always good to see more people being able to play.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
June 04 2013 16:37 GMT
#4
pretty cool thing.
sunshinehero
Profile Joined April 2012
Norway89 Posts
June 04 2013 16:38 GMT
#5
I thought it was a good idea, then they revealed that spawned players can not choose their race.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 04 2013 16:38 GMT
#6
More is good and I have a few friends I need to show the awesome stuff in HotS. I think it's time.
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Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
June 04 2013 16:41 GMT
#7
Meh, I thought this was an awesome thing, but then came the "only one race" limitation. Close, but no cigar.
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FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
June 04 2013 16:42 GMT
#8
Cant wait to play with my cheap friends now!
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kidrobotx
Profile Joined March 2013
United States7 Posts
June 04 2013 16:42 GMT
#9
On June 05 2013 01:41 Rannasha wrote:
Meh, I thought this was an awesome thing, but then came the "only one race" limitation. Close, but no cigar.

From what I understand, if you're spawning someone with Starter Edition they're still only limited to Terran, but WoL players still have access to all 3 races in HotS.
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o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 16:45:02
June 04 2013 16:43 GMT
#10
Also worth noting:

There's a new (Carbot, actually) portrait/achievement to accompany the change. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]]
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
June 04 2013 16:43 GMT
#11
Wow, PRETTY AMAZING!
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Erinyes
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany104 Posts
June 04 2013 16:43 GMT
#12
The technology is there - yet again

I really like this though, means I can finally invite a few friends of mine that don't have HOTS and didn't want to purchase it up to this point! Thank you for this awesome feature <3
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 16:44:53
June 04 2013 16:43 GMT
#13
woah sick , gonna tell my gf she should dl starter pack and im gonna play some arcade / teamgames with her, exciting!!!!!!!
yo
Hollandrock
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
June 04 2013 16:44 GMT
#14
This is so cool!
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
June 04 2013 16:46 GMT
#15
Still limited to just Terran? Seems weird.
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GudulesmSC2
Profile Joined May 2013
102 Posts
June 04 2013 16:47 GMT
#16
On June 05 2013 01:43 o29 wrote:
Also worth noting:

There's a new (Carbot, actually) portrait/achievement to accompany the change. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]]


That zergling is so cute.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 16:49:49
June 04 2013 16:49 GMT
#17
On June 05 2013 01:46 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Still limited to just Terran? Seems weird.

they said currently at this time only terran, mayb theyll change in the future
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habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
June 04 2013 16:50 GMT
#18
only terran, so a bit lame :/
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
June 04 2013 16:52 GMT
#19
On June 05 2013 01:43 o29 wrote:
Also worth noting:

There's a new (Carbot, actually) portrait/achievement to accompany the change. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]]

starting a petition for a carbot zergling portrait. maybe a marine with a sandwich, and an infestor with a hellion toy.
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Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
June 04 2013 16:52 GMT
#20
What if other players have WoL, can they play other races in Hots?
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
June 04 2013 16:52 GMT
#21
On June 05 2013 01:50 habeck wrote:
only terran, so a bit lame :/

but also a bit cool
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
June 04 2013 16:53 GMT
#22
On June 05 2013 01:52 Tuczniak wrote:
What if other players have WoL, can they play other races in Hots?


That was the only question I had too. Other than that, seems like a cool feature, especially full arcade access.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 04 2013 16:54 GMT
#23
I'd imagine that the one-race limit for starter editions could be circumvented in certain custom and arcade maps by an in-game race selection screen rather than using the lobby one.
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willstertben
Profile Joined May 2013
427 Posts
June 04 2013 16:56 GMT
#24
so it's basically free to play in pc bangs now?
(only terran? who cares, that's the only race koreans play anyway LOL)
ibraishome
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany337 Posts
June 04 2013 16:56 GMT
#25
Does it work with Arcade? I mean can spawned starter-edition players play arcade game with friends?
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
June 04 2013 16:57 GMT
#26
On June 05 2013 01:56 ibraishome wrote:
Does it work with Arcade? I mean can spawned starter-edition players play arcade game with friends?


The video says it gives full access to arcade, so should work.
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askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
June 04 2013 17:01 GMT
#27
can spawned players play 1v1? or is it only team?
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
June 04 2013 17:02 GMT
#28
On June 05 2013 01:42 kidrobotx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 01:41 Rannasha wrote:
Meh, I thought this was an awesome thing, but then came the "only one race" limitation. Close, but no cigar.

From what I understand, if you're spawning someone with Starter Edition they're still only limited to Terran, but WoL players still have access to all 3 races in HotS.

Yeah, this is a nice change!
pullarius1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States522 Posts
June 04 2013 17:02 GMT
#29
Oh man that brings me back. My very first contact with Starcraft was 2v2v2v2 in the computer lab at school with a good 5-6 of those copies being spawns.
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Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
June 04 2013 17:07 GMT
#30
Nice one Blizz!
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
June 04 2013 17:09 GMT
#31
It doesn't work here. I am still restricted to the Starter Edition level in the party, regardless if I chose Hots or Wol as my gameplay level.
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schwarzer
Profile Joined October 2012
Argentina25 Posts
June 04 2013 17:09 GMT
#32
Wow. I can't even imagine all the games I can play with my friends now. Epic Blizzard win.
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
June 04 2013 17:15 GMT
#33
Is there just one Game Client and Game Mode depends on logged in Account?
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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
June 04 2013 17:17 GMT
#34
Hopefully this will help growth. The terran-only lock-out is somewhat understandable. A starter-edition player probably isn't intrinsically attached too deeply to either of the other races (and if he/she is, why doesn't he/she buy the game?).

Certainly a step in the right direction, and good to see that Blizzard is continuing to make substantial changes to improve appeal and playability.
Aynophae
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain44 Posts
June 04 2013 17:21 GMT
#35
Can't you just create a arcade map that just is a copy of a normal game but have an ingame race selector? OBS maps and such were basically copies of the normal game but with other features, I don't know if this is possible though.
ForellenLord
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany10 Posts
June 04 2013 17:22 GMT
#36
This is just awesome!
Gaizokubanou
Profile Joined April 2013
United States61 Posts
June 04 2013 17:23 GMT
#37
Nice welcome addition to Starcraft 2 scene. Not something incredibly huge (it is much clunkier way of getting players into the game than straight up free-to-play model) but still a step taken in the right direction for growth.

I personally wish they just made standard ranked and unranked play f2p, with other features (custom game, arcade, unit skins) sold off in pieces with current retail option being the cheap bundle to buy all of the features.
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
June 04 2013 17:31 GMT
#38
This is awesome. Good idea to get new players into the game.
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GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
June 04 2013 17:31 GMT
#39
Pretty cool! When I was a kid with no expendable income, having spawning on Warcraft 2 was what made hundreds of hours spent playing together with my brother possible. I always thought it was such a great feature. Nice to see them doing something similar again.
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
June 04 2013 17:32 GMT
#40
Why still limit this...
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
June 04 2013 17:32 GMT
#41
This is pretty cool! A nice feature to help get more people to try out HotS!
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suddendeathTV
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:38:08
June 04 2013 17:35 GMT
#42
I wonder why Blizzard doesn't check the success of games like Dota2 and League... Why not make SC2 free to play and open a store much like the one in Dota2 where you can buy skins (e.g the dark zealot skins for protoss) and so on, buy decals, buy portraits or whatever. They'd probably make more cash out of it in the long run and they would attract so many more players.

I have countless of friends who refuse to buy Starcraft as it's quite expensive, especially when there's good and fun free games to play. What student or low incomer, except hardcore Starcraftfans, would BUY Starcraft when they have the option to play moba games for free?

Meh.

EDIT: Just need to clear this up: I am not whining that Blizzard charge people to play the game. I willingly paid for all the starcraft games as I am a huge fan. The reason I'm sad is because Starcraft could have been so much bigger and there could be so many more players.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:39:46
June 04 2013 17:38 GMT
#43
On June 05 2013 02:35 sd_andeh wrote:
I wonder why Blizzard doesn't check the success of games like Dota2 and League... Why not make SC2 free to play and open a store much like the one in Dota2 where you can buy skins (e.g the dark zealot skins for protoss) and so on, buy decals, buy portraits or whatever. They'd probably make more cash out of it in the long run and they would attract so many more players.

I have countless of friends who refuse to buy Starcraft as it's quite expensive, especially when there's good and fun free games to play. What student or low incomer, except hardcore Starcraftfans, would BUY Starcraft when they have the option to play moba games for free?

Meh.

What's quite funny though is that those f2p games fans usually spend a lot more than what sc2 currently costs. Or that's what i read from most LoL forums where people say they already spent well over 100€ on the game.

That being said unit skins for multiplayer... ugh, wouldn't like that. Unless there is an option to always show default skins.
JacobNX01a
Profile Joined November 2012
United States65 Posts
June 04 2013 17:38 GMT
#44
i have so many friends with the starter edition, this is awesome
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Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
June 04 2013 17:39 GMT
#45
I thought this was about restricting spawn locations on ladder maps, but this is good too.
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MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
June 04 2013 17:39 GMT
#46
A long overdue change. Better late than never.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
June 04 2013 17:40 GMT
#47
On June 05 2013 02:35 sd_andeh wrote:
I wonder why Blizzard doesn't check the success of games like Dota2 and League... Why not make SC2 free to play and open a store much like the one in Dota2 where you can buy skins (e.g the dark zealot skins for protoss) and so on, buy decals, buy portraits or whatever. They'd probably make more cash out of it in the long run and they would attract so many more players.

I have countless of friends who refuse to buy Starcraft as it's quite expensive, especially when there's good and fun free games to play. What student or low incomer, except hardcore Starcraftfans, would BUY Starcraft when they have the option to play moba games for free?

Meh.

EDIT: Just need to clear this up: I am not whining that Blizzard charge people to play the game. I willingly paid for all the starcraft games as I am a huge fan. The reason I'm sad is because Starcraft could have been so much bigger and there could be so many more players.


Because Mobas are team games and Starcraft 2 is mainly a 1vs1 game. People just doesn't care that much about cosmetic stuff when you only play with one other person.
ConGee
Profile Joined May 2012
318 Posts
June 04 2013 17:42 GMT
#48
If you spawn a friend from WoL to HotS, do they have to play Terran or are they able to play any race?
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
June 04 2013 17:43 GMT
#49
Because Mobas are team games and Starcraft 2 is mainly a 1vs1 game.

Then why Spawning function only works with teams?
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 04 2013 17:43 GMT
#50
Is that all content?
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Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:53:41
June 04 2013 17:43 GMT
#51
<message deleted>

Sorry.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 04 2013 17:43 GMT
#52
Cool stuff :D
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
June 04 2013 17:49 GMT
#53
So i can play HOTS with my m8s that only have WoL now?

If so that's freaking amazing!
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Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
June 04 2013 17:50 GMT
#54

Any race (also any maps), as long as he plays in your party.

No, spawned players have only Terrans
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
June 04 2013 17:50 GMT
#55
ok i only have WOL and wish to play ladder in HOTS, thats not possible right since i need to party some1 else? I actually still dont get how it works, I log in into WOL and my friend is on HOTS, he cna invite me to party w/o me downloading HOTS patches?
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
June 04 2013 17:50 GMT
#56
On June 05 2013 02:43 Targe wrote:
Is that all content?

Any Arcade game is a lot
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
June 04 2013 17:51 GMT
#57
Next, they might bring back LAN. Nah. But this is a good step regardless.
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Rainling
Profile Joined June 2011
United States456 Posts
June 04 2013 17:54 GMT
#58
This is a great change! It's a shame only terran is allowed, I think the incentive of being able to play games without your friends is enough to encourage people who can afford it to buy the game on its own. Hopefully that changes.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 04 2013 17:55 GMT
#59
On June 05 2013 02:50 justiceknight wrote:
ok i only have WOL and wish to play ladder in HOTS, thats not possible right since i need to party some1 else? I actually still dont get how it works, I log in into WOL and my friend is on HOTS, he cna invite me to party w/o me downloading HOTS patches?

the HotS patches are already in your game files even if you only have WoL. I assume you can only ladder 2v2
:)
dankh
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France15 Posts
June 04 2013 17:56 GMT
#60
That's a great argument to bring people play more SC2. GJ Blizzard !
IMScientist
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy125 Posts
June 04 2013 17:56 GMT
#61
This is cool if you have Hots you can play with ppl that have wol or starter edition,i think this will attract more ppl
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suddendeathTV
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden388 Posts
June 04 2013 17:58 GMT
#62
On June 05 2013 02:38 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 02:35 sd_andeh wrote:
I wonder why Blizzard doesn't check the success of games like Dota2 and League... Why not make SC2 free to play and open a store much like the one in Dota2 where you can buy skins (e.g the dark zealot skins for protoss) and so on, buy decals, buy portraits or whatever. They'd probably make more cash out of it in the long run and they would attract so many more players.

I have countless of friends who refuse to buy Starcraft as it's quite expensive, especially when there's good and fun free games to play. What student or low incomer, except hardcore Starcraftfans, would BUY Starcraft when they have the option to play moba games for free?

Meh.

What's quite funny though is that those f2p games fans usually spend a lot more than what sc2 currently costs. Or that's what i read from most LoL forums where people say they already spent well over 100€ on the game.

That being said unit skins for multiplayer... ugh, wouldn't like that. Unless there is an option to always show default skins.


I already have that problem in the game though. As in, annoying zerglins-skins and so on. I still want that option no matter what.

On June 05 2013 02:40 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 02:35 sd_andeh wrote:
I wonder why Blizzard doesn't check the success of games like Dota2 and League... Why not make SC2 free to play and open a store much like the one in Dota2 where you can buy skins (e.g the dark zealot skins for protoss) and so on, buy decals, buy portraits or whatever. They'd probably make more cash out of it in the long run and they would attract so many more players.

I have countless of friends who refuse to buy Starcraft as it's quite expensive, especially when there's good and fun free games to play. What student or low incomer, except hardcore Starcraftfans, would BUY Starcraft when they have the option to play moba games for free?

Meh.

EDIT: Just need to clear this up: I am not whining that Blizzard charge people to play the game. I willingly paid for all the starcraft games as I am a huge fan. The reason I'm sad is because Starcraft could have been so much bigger and there could be so many more players.


Because Mobas are team games and Starcraft 2 is mainly a 1vs1 game. People just doesn't care that much about cosmetic stuff when you only play with one other person.


Well, that doesn't really change the fact that we'd get so many more players through f2p. I'm sure most protosses would pay for the zealot skin. Or zergs pay for the raptor-zergling. Even if they don't, more players would only be good. Whenever I check facebook and watch for old friends, I see a lot of "non-gamers" who suddenly turned into gamers when they turned 20-25. However, they don't play sc2, they play MOBA. I don't like that.

Information is everything
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
June 04 2013 17:59 GMT
#63
Spawning players now have full access to Arcade games, which means there are no race restrictions in Arcade mode.

Also it means that Arcade mode becomes Free2Play.
Zethiel
Profile Joined September 2010
Bolivia39 Posts
June 04 2013 18:00 GMT
#64
Also great to play with friends from other servers whom with we wanted to do 2v2s or others
Si no duele, no sirve - Esteban Zenteno
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:02:23
June 04 2013 18:01 GMT
#65
On June 05 2013 02:50 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +

Any race (also any maps), as long as he plays in your party.

No, spawned players have only Terrans


Even if they have a WoL account?

In maps like say Peep-mode they would still be able to play any race with Hots unit, right?

Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
ayaka
Profile Joined December 2012
11 Posts
June 04 2013 18:02 GMT
#66
i tested this function, Spawning players can select all race but random.
good blz!
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
June 04 2013 18:03 GMT
#67
On June 05 2013 03:01 Zorgaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 02:50 Existor wrote:

Any race (also any maps), as long as he plays in your party.

No, spawned players have only Terrans


Even if they have a WoL account?

In maps like say Peep-mode they would still be able to play any race with Hots unit, right?



Custom maps like peepmode and monobattles will let you play other races.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 04 2013 18:04 GMT
#68
On June 05 2013 02:50 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +

Any race (also any maps), as long as he plays in your party.

No, spawned players have only Terrans

I don't know why you would need anything else honestly :p Might as well play the manly race right away.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
June 04 2013 18:06 GMT
#69
Also, Arcade now is a Free-2-Play part of SC2
TheGGparadox
Profile Joined February 2012
United States37 Posts
June 04 2013 18:07 GMT
#70
I wonder if this will help sc2 grow in Korea, seeing as it can be almost f2p with your friends. Maybe sc2 will get more play in pc bangs now...
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3676 Posts
June 04 2013 18:08 GMT
#71
On June 05 2013 03:00 Zethiel wrote:
Also great to play with friends from other servers whom with we wanted to do 2v2s or others


Not really as thanks to global play anyone who has wol/hots will have that game on all servers.

This is a really sexy feature, great to introduce friends to the game who think about getting it.
DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
June 04 2013 18:09 GMT
#72
Cool stuff. Now I want more Carbots achievements and portraits. :D
If your all in didn't work, you didn't pull the workers.
Fix637
Profile Joined February 2011
United States256 Posts
June 04 2013 18:10 GMT
#73
So here's this thing that was the reason we kept LAN out of the game, but we're putting it in as a "feature", except it's actually less functional than what you could do in 1998 because you can only pick one race. It's like we're advancing both forwards AND backwards at the same time!

I don't normally make critical posts to announcements like this, but this seems kind of absurd. I suppose playing with cheap-o friends is cool. Although it sucks that they can only play one race.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
June 04 2013 18:11 GMT
#74
That's a brilliant idea! It's a pretty great compromise to have people pirate the game to friend in order for them to try it out

The debate of having only Terran available is quite interesting. Businesswise it's probably a great idea. I can imagine Zerg and Protoss being very intriguing to try for someone who has only tried Terran (The most boring looking race )
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 04 2013 18:14 GMT
#75
On June 05 2013 02:50 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 02:43 Targe wrote:
Is that all content?

Any Arcade game is a lot


Oh I missed that, that's pretty good.
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Mayd
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland251 Posts
June 04 2013 18:14 GMT
#76
WoL players can play all races but random at the moment.
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Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
June 04 2013 18:14 GMT
#77
On June 05 2013 03:10 Fix637 wrote:
So here's this thing that was the reason we kept LAN out of the game, but we're putting it in as a "feature", except it's actually less functional than what you could do in 1998 because you can only pick one race. It's like we're advancing both forwards AND backwards at the same time!

I don't normally make critical posts to announcements like this, but this seems kind of absurd. I suppose playing with cheap-o friends is cool. Although it sucks that they can only play one race.

You can pick only one race ONLY in Ranked.

Arcade is restriction-less now.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 18:17 GMT
#78
They are going in the right direction! Cool stuff!
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:18:55
June 04 2013 18:18 GMT
#79
Nice ! I didn't think of buying HOTS , but with this i may end up reconsidaring it . So i can play with friends not owning either game and just playing with the starters edition ? That would certainly fire up the interest in any cheapskate wanting to try out the game .
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
June 04 2013 18:19 GMT
#80
That's how I played Warcraft 2.
With my dad buying the game and then connecting two PCs.
The memories... how things change, now the feature exists only because Blizz felt that the acquirent base can grow further.

It's interesting to see TL users praise a company for providing a feature (after selling a game and the expansion at the two-games full prize) that used to be standard years ago: makes me wonder if I'm too old, if money changes things that much, if people are stupid or if I'm too negative. Probably a mixture of all?
It would be fun to see if, whenever LoTV will be launched, some Blizz guy will come up with a "hey guys we solved our problems! Now you have LAN!" - what would the community reaction be like?

On the other hand, one can answer that features aren't to be taken for granted, so I should be grateful in any case.

Am I the only one left with a sour taste in his mouth after hearing this news?
Ironic that actually this is supposed to be good news...
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InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
June 04 2013 18:23 GMT
#81
oh my god this is so cool~~
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
di4m0nd
Profile Joined June 2010
United States297 Posts
June 04 2013 18:25 GMT
#82
Now that is one awesome feature Blizzard is really stepping up there game in trying to compete with free2play good choice in my opinion
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algorithm0r
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada486 Posts
June 04 2013 18:31 GMT
#83
Sup LAN?
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:36:59
June 04 2013 18:36 GMT
#84
Arcade becomes free-2-play now, so it means, Blizzard can introduce payable maps in some future
Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:38:07
June 04 2013 18:37 GMT
#85
Right now on NA, the Spawned player can select Protoss / Terran / Zerg. Can't select random (lol).

My spawned player had a Starter Edition, not even a WoL account. It may be a bug, it may be as intended (but I doubt it according to the official video).
EU Zerg player - Streaming @ http://twitch.tv/shade_cst
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
June 04 2013 18:39 GMT
#86
On June 05 2013 03:37 Shade_FR wrote:
Right now on NA, the Spawned player can select Protoss / Terran / Zerg. Can't select random (lol).

My spawned player had a Starter Edition, not even a WoL account. It may be a bug, it may be as intended (but I doubt it according to the official video).



no its not a bugg somone with started edetion can be spwaned
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
June 04 2013 18:40 GMT
#87
I can't actually believe that Blizzard added a feature like this. It is SO unlike them. Great to see!
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 04 2013 18:40 GMT
#88
On June 05 2013 03:37 Shade_FR wrote:
Right now on NA, the Spawned player can select Protoss / Terran / Zerg. Can't select random (lol).

My spawned player had a Starter Edition, not even a WoL account. It may be a bug, it may be as intended (but I doubt it according to the official video).

Thank god, BNet doesn't need more random players.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
June 04 2013 18:41 GMT
#89
Technology is here finally!?
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 04 2013 18:44 GMT
#90
There´s only so much "are we there, yet" you can take, it seems.

Seems like the competition on the market pays off for SC2 fans, finally.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 04 2013 18:49 GMT
#91
Cool feature, will have to get my buddies to try it.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:06:45
June 04 2013 18:49 GMT
#92
But wait – there’s more! [red]We’ve enabled the Protoss and Zerg races for the StarCraft II Starter Edition. That means all Starter Edition players can choose from all three races for a limited time.


New news coming here!
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/10157995/New_Rewards_this_Week-6_4_2013
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:08:53
June 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#93
Oh, the good old days, of installing SC Spawn on every computer in Comp.Sci. class and pissing off the teacher. THEY'RE BAAACCCKK!

EDIT: I think Blizzard should get on the advertising a little more heavily. They've made many changes since WoL that people don't necessarily know about. We can only badger our friends and relatives so much on their behalf and the only ads I ever see are reduced version of the intro with no information - all on SC2 streams, which is pretty much the height of pointlessness.
twitch.tv/duttroach
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
June 04 2013 19:13 GMT
#94
On June 05 2013 01:49 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 01:46 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Still limited to just Terran? Seems weird.

they said currently at this time only terran, mayb theyll change in the future

haha called it
yo
ayaka
Profile Joined December 2012
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:23:29
June 04 2013 19:23 GMT
#95
they said 3 races are enabled for starter edition only this week. (may be same to spawning player)
decemberscalm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1353 Posts
June 04 2013 19:23 GMT
#96
This is awesome.

I have plenty of friends who would only log on to play with me, so buying hots for themselves wasn't something they'd like to do.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
June 04 2013 19:30 GMT
#97
this certainly takes me back
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 04 2013 19:35 GMT
#98
this is very generous of Blizzard!
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
June 04 2013 19:38 GMT
#99
Really like this.:D
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 04 2013 19:38 GMT
#100
On June 05 2013 03:19 MavivaM wrote:
That's how I played Warcraft 2.
With my dad buying the game and then connecting two PCs.
The memories... how things change, now the feature exists only because Blizz felt that the acquirent base can grow further.

It's interesting to see TL users praise a company for providing a feature (after selling a game and the expansion at the two-games full prize) that used to be standard years ago: makes me wonder if I'm too old, if money changes things that much, if people are stupid or if I'm too negative. Probably a mixture of all?

It would be fun to see if, whenever LoTV will be launched, some Blizz guy will come up with a "hey guys we solved our problems! Now you have LAN!" - what would the community reaction be like?

On the other hand, one can answer that features aren't to be taken for granted, so I should be grateful in any case.

Am I the only one left with a sour taste in his mouth after hearing this news?
Ironic that actually this is supposed to be good news...


People are praising it because it isn't standard now. Christ just be happy that this feature has returned from an era where it wasn't even necessary due to games having almost no copy protection on disks and floppies.
OblivionMage
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada377 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 20:15:14
June 04 2013 19:40 GMT
#101
As though any of my friends (or me) still play SC2...

Edit:

Instead of making a few simple changes to custom game lobbys that have been suggested since 2010, Blizzard continues to act as though the ladder is where people will most want to play. Hidden losses, unranked play, and spawning. Cool. Or, you know, they could just give us a proper custom games lobby (only one list available, showing only games currently open and being hosted, with kick privilages to the host).

Yeah, the Warcraft 3 system as an example looks like crap right now, but that's because of the spammy bots that over-host games with no players in them. The system was very good before the flooding of the bots (it's fine with only a few bots) that outnumbered the potential players.

But no, that might interfere with the marketplace idea they've been tossing around since Beta. Hur, hur.
Icemind
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany570 Posts
June 04 2013 19:46 GMT
#102
I was about to post that i really like this and wanted to commend blizzard for it.
Then i read that it is limited to one race ... its better than nothing but it doesnt impress me nearly as much as it would if it was not limited
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
June 04 2013 19:47 GMT
#103
Did someone try this? I did but I am still limited to Starter Edition. This is also true when I set my expansion level to WoL.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
June 04 2013 19:54 GMT
#104
On June 05 2013 04:47 [F_]aths wrote:
Did someone try this? I did but I am still limited to Starter Edition. This is also true when I set my expansion level to WoL.
It's on NA, but on EU not yet.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 04 2013 20:11 GMT
#105
Nice, so we basically threw 40 Euro out of the window for the second copy of HoTS, because we (me and my wife) have two SC2s only to play team games together.

It seems so nice that Blizzard "gives away free stuff" but in fact, it is quite incosiderate to people who paid for the same thing a couple of months ago.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 04 2013 20:13 GMT
#106
Interesting, should've been done much much earlier though. Still limited to one race, should've tried two lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
June 04 2013 20:17 GMT
#107
Now I can get my friends who only have WoL to play with me :D
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
June 04 2013 20:36 GMT
#108
Really amazing feature.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3187 Posts
June 04 2013 21:05 GMT
#109
On June 05 2013 04:40 OblivionMage wrote:
As though any of my friends (or me) still play SC2...

Edit:

Instead of making a few simple changes to custom game lobbys that have been suggested since 2010, Blizzard continues to act as though the ladder is where people will most want to play. Hidden losses, unranked play, and spawning. Cool. Or, you know, they could just give us a proper custom games lobby (only one list available, showing only games currently open and being hosted, with kick privilages to the host).

Yeah, the Warcraft 3 system as an example looks like crap right now, but that's because of the spammy bots that over-host games with no players in them. The system was very good before the flooding of the bots (it's fine with only a few bots) that outnumbered the potential players.

But no, that might interfere with the marketplace idea they've been tossing around since Beta. Hur, hur.

What does any of this have to do with anything? We get it, you liked the old custom games system. Apparently neither you nor any of your friends play SC2 any more, but you still feel the need to hang out on an SC2 forum and berate Blizzard for their handling of the game. None of that changes the fact that if Blizzard says, "Hey! We have a new feature!" responding with either "But I prefer other games these days" or "But there's this other feature of your game I disagree with" is entirely off-topic.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
June 04 2013 21:08 GMT
#110
On June 05 2013 05:11 opisska wrote:
Nice, so we basically threw 40 Euro out of the window for the second copy of HoTS, because we (me and my wife) have two SC2s only to play team games together.

It seems so nice that Blizzard "gives away free stuff" but in fact, it is quite incosiderate to people who paid for the same thing a couple of months ago.

You wouldn't believe the rage that Valve got when TF2 went F2P.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
June 04 2013 21:09 GMT
#111
On June 05 2013 01:43 o29 wrote:
Also worth noting:

There's a new (Carbot, actually) portrait/achievement to accompany the change. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]]

That's bigger news than the initial topic imo ^^
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
June 04 2013 21:18 GMT
#112
-.- only terran
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
June 04 2013 21:26 GMT
#113
Yea I noticed this like 2 weeks ago when I got my friends to play SC2 Starter. When I made a game and added to my party we were able to play HOTS. They loved the game so much both of them bought SC2+Hots.

^_^
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
June 04 2013 21:32 GMT
#114
On June 05 2013 06:18 Digitalis wrote:
-.- only terran

all 3 races are available
yo
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 21:57:04
June 04 2013 21:51 GMT
#115
On June 05 2013 06:32 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 06:18 Digitalis wrote:
-.- only terran

all 3 races are available

Just found on their announcement, that 3 races available is limited time for starter edition.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/10157995/

"But wait – there’s more! We’ve enabled the Protoss and Zerg races for the StarCraft II Starter Edition. That means all Starter Edition players can choose from all three races for a limited time."
twitter: @terrancem
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 04 2013 21:58 GMT
#116
On June 05 2013 01:52 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 01:43 o29 wrote:
Also worth noting:

There's a new (Carbot, actually) portrait/achievement to accompany the change. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]]

starting a petition for a carbot zergling portrait. maybe a marine with a sandwich, and an infestor with a hellion toy.


screw portraits, art of those by fishuu would be even better
ffxiv enjoyer
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 04 2013 22:47 GMT
#117
my friend is terran so good for him. My question is, if my friend had donwloaded a starter edition of Starcraft 2, and I spawned him in HotS,how does that gonna work, Is he gonna be DL'ing the whole HotS content (which is pretty big) first? OR is starter edition has already HotS content but just locked ?
AKMU / IU
FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
June 04 2013 23:01 GMT
#118
pretty sweet
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
June 04 2013 23:14 GMT
#119
On June 05 2013 07:47 shin_toss wrote:
my friend is terran so good for him. My question is, if my friend had donwloaded a starter edition of Starcraft 2, and I spawned him in HotS,how does that gonna work, Is he gonna be DL'ing the whole HotS content (which is pretty big) first? OR is starter edition has already HotS content but just locked ?

the 2nd, locked but already dled
yo
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 04 2013 23:16 GMT
#120
Hectic, I'm still on WoL.

This might actually get me to try HotS.
lalala
SecondHand
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States329 Posts
June 04 2013 23:22 GMT
#121
gg blizz
Ladder more, win less
VBBandit
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia20 Posts
June 04 2013 23:27 GMT
#122
This is a really cool feature :o
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
June 04 2013 23:37 GMT
#123
great way to get more people into the game! :D
I'm terranfying
Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
June 04 2013 23:53 GMT
#124
still, this is very limited spawning, not a huge deal at all. at lan party still useless.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
June 05 2013 00:03 GMT
#125
They should let people play all races and it would be fine like that. The only thing you couldn't do would be singleplayer, 1v1 and getting xp/some other stuff/clans etc.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
June 05 2013 00:13 GMT
#126
On June 05 2013 08:53 Kompicek wrote:
still, this is very limited spawning, not a huge deal at all. at lan party still useless.

plz explain
yo
Miss_Foxy
Profile Joined March 2012
Singapore109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 01:07:35
June 05 2013 00:48 GMT
#127
Great move by Blizzard
Also, this would probably spark off a huge surge of players joining Starcraft 2 again pretty soon, in my opinion.
I love Blizzard's stuff and Korea ~ <3
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 05 2013 00:50 GMT
#128
I love my new Carbot portrait ^^

Awesome to see the success that Carbot is getting
iyasq8
Profile Joined December 2012
113 Posts
June 05 2013 00:54 GMT
#129
am just worried that this might be too late...
Piece
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 05 2013 00:59 GMT
#130
On June 05 2013 09:54 iyasq8 wrote:
am just worried that this might be too late...


Please don't start that "SC2 is dying" crap because its not.

And also, its never too late for something great.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 01:44:50
June 05 2013 01:08 GMT
#131
But wait – there’s more! We’ve enabled the Protoss and Zerg races for the StarCraft II Starter Edition. That means all Starter Edition players can choose from all three races for a limited time.
How much is this limited time?
edit: Answered in Slasher's interview with Chris Sigaty:
But, starting today up until the end of Sunday, all three races are available. We will go back to one race being active, but then we'll have weekends with promotions to switch the race or have multiple races active at once.
Thus ignore the rest I said. It's really nice that the races will be more or less available via this method. Limiting only to terran was a problem, because it's very possible for a newcomer to have watched competitions and already like some other race.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 01:42:19
June 05 2013 01:37 GMT
#132
Blizzard talks new spawning option for Starcraft II by Rod "Slasher" Breslau

Production director Chris Sigaty explains why spawning is only just now coming to RTS, says company has done a poor job making gamers aware of Starter Edition.

Excerpt:

Spawning has been a feature in Blizzard games since Warcraft II and Starcraft: Brood War. As such a Blizzard-specific feature, why has it taken so long for this to come to Starcraft II?

I think priorities. This was something we talked about in the past but never really had a good vision for it. We were working on important features for the core game as we did Heart of the Swarm, and a lot of the patches that followed up Wings of Liberty that added things like Masters and Grand Masters leagues. If you go across the patches they were all adding newly important functionality. Then Heart of The Swarm drops with a whole bunch of great stuff, including things that make life easier for players to find each other, take command, all the new replay functionality, all that stuff felt more important. Now that we've had the bandwidth to do this, it just felt like the right time now that we've finally had a little bit of air to breathe into this feature.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-talks-new-spawning-option-for-starcraft-ii-6409256

Also, there was a special StarCrafts about this:

This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
June 05 2013 01:53 GMT
#133
Woah, such news. Amazing. Give it another five years and there'll be LAN.
The heart's eternal vow
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
June 05 2013 02:24 GMT
#134
wow, what a great way to merge the communities, excellent.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 05 2013 02:49 GMT
#135
Pointless for the people on here since I'm assuming that if you're posting on TeamLiquid, you've probably already bought the game :p.
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Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
June 05 2013 03:04 GMT
#136
On June 05 2013 11:49 Havik_ wrote:
Pointless for the people on here since I'm assuming that if you're posting on TeamLiquid, you've probably already bought the game :p.

But now I can convince my friend to play HotS with me and he doesn't have to pay a cent.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 05 2013 03:29 GMT
#137
On June 05 2013 12:04 Beamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 11:49 Havik_ wrote:
Pointless for the people on here since I'm assuming that if you're posting on TeamLiquid, you've probably already bought the game :p.

But now I can convince my friend to play HotS with me and he doesn't have to pay a cent.
Exactly this. Moreover, I don't have to buy the game as a present to a friend who might get embarrassed by this or think it's a waste of good money.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12370 Posts
June 05 2013 04:13 GMT
#138
interesting, would had been much better if it was available in WoL because now most of my friends haven't played SC2 for months and obsessed in LoL now.
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
June 05 2013 04:29 GMT
#139
On June 05 2013 11:49 Havik_ wrote:
Pointless for the people on here since I'm assuming that if you're posting on TeamLiquid, you've probably already bought the game :p.


I have plenty of friends who bought WoL but haven't purchased HOTS. Now they can play with me any time they want at no extra cost!

Come to think of it, now all my friends who bought WoL, played it for a bit and then switched to LoL can play with me any time they want without having to invest 40 bucks into HOTS. This is awesome.
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Cook
Profile Joined May 2011
France130 Posts
June 05 2013 05:17 GMT
#140
This is really cool. Good job blizz.
Kyuhyuck
Profile Joined April 2013
Korea (South)40 Posts
June 05 2013 05:22 GMT
#141
I like the portrait teehee
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Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 06:14:41
June 05 2013 05:39 GMT
#142
Great idea by Blizzard IMO. Everyone who was going to buy HOTS has it already... making it free to play with friends only is smart, they're still not getting the full game and they might get hooked and want to buy it.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
June 05 2013 10:53 GMT
#143
It's nice to see Blizzard taking steps TOWARDS a better gaming future, even while companies like Microsoft take steps away from one.
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Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
June 05 2013 11:29 GMT
#144
Awesome, can play with the friends that didn't get HotS yet.
elevatorpurplemonkey
Profile Joined June 2013
United States9 Posts
June 05 2013 20:59 GMT
#145
This is a great feature. What took them so long to include this.
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
June 06 2013 00:54 GMT
#146
haha this is really cool glad they added this in maybe i can convice more ppl to play with me now
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Oakenshield
Profile Joined January 2013
United States347 Posts
June 06 2013 04:09 GMT
#147
I have had almost no interest in learning another in depth game until I started listening to the GD studio show and then heard about this and I think I will give it a shot. SC was too complex for me to become good at as a kid, but maybe SCII won't prove to be that much harder than Dota2 in time.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-06 04:40:32
June 06 2013 04:29 GMT
#148
OMG wow this is awesome.

Crazy that it even works for arcade maps! (this allows 1v1 or solo vs computer despite being in in the same party).

On June 05 2013 08:53 Kompicek wrote:
still, this is very limited spawning, not a huge deal at all. at lan party still useless.
You mean at LANs without internet access it's useless.
It's not really limited AT ALL aside from the fact it doesn't work offline. Sure it's an issue, but you can't really expect them to allow unlimited solo&multiplayer offline play until they have all the sales they can get.

For offline LAN/LAN party use you can still use 3rd-party/illegitimate server emulator; granted it's not sanctioned/condoned or anything.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
RookUK
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United Kingdom283 Posts
June 06 2013 13:33 GMT
#149
Tried this out last night and it's very slick and efficient. Nice work by Blizzard, for sure.
MagnuMizer
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Denmark384 Posts
June 06 2013 14:16 GMT
#150
<3 <3 <3 <3 BLIZZARD <3 <3 <3 <3
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
June 06 2013 14:24 GMT
#151
I think considering most bw koreans played custom game sin pc bangs that this might be a brilliant move by blizzard.I remember the old wc3 days when I literally only played custom games.I also think this will give sc2 an edge over the moba genre.Seeing how now any user can play an infinite number of fun custom maps(including moba ones) for free while the moba gamers have to stick to the same 1 map(ok 4 in case of lol) might bring in a new wave of new players bore dof the entire moba craze.
Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
June 06 2013 14:25 GMT
#152
fucking make it LAN already and you will have people playing the game forever along with new players joining in. you money loving machine.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
June 06 2013 14:37 GMT
#153
I spawned someone just for the carbots portait :3
Oakenshield
Profile Joined January 2013
United States347 Posts
June 06 2013 19:20 GMT
#154
I really didn't think I'd play another SC game since I was a kid but I am really enjoying this spawning play with my brother. I might even end up buying the game and sticking with it, so I can alternate being angry at Dota and SC. And finally my Diablo 3 money is put to use, I can now see all my friends on a friends list again in a real game, and I can call them shitters when I see they are logged into World of Warcraft.
PhoenixM1
Profile Joined January 2010
United States178 Posts
June 07 2013 19:13 GMT
#155
Nice this should be a pretty cool feature for people like me who still haven't picked up hots. Quick someone make a spawn team recruitment thread! I think it's alright they're only letting spawned players play terran. . .I mean everyone just wants to make hellbats anyways right?
=/
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 19:06:01
June 08 2013 18:55 GMT
#156
Oh, woah..... This Blizzard announcement should have been more clear:

Bumped up players will not be able to play more than 1 race, even if they have WoL (they can now, but that's limited-time). It's completely misleading to say that they're playing as if they had HotS or WoL, because those games allow all 3 race to be played! such misleading advertising!

I mean for now I guess it's not misleading at all, but they really should indicate that this change is just coinciding with Starter edition players getting access to all 3 races for the week (or maybe longer?)
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/10157995/New_Rewards_this_Week-6_4_2013

Blizzard poster "Aldrexus" on reddit"
Show nested quote +
Can you really only play terran if you are spawned from WoL to HoTS? I see a lot of different information on this.

Spawned Wings of Liberty players can only play the race(s) available to Starter Edition players. Currently, all three races are available to Starter Edition, so Wings of Liberty players can play all three when they are spawned. We will go back to one race being active (not necessarily Terran permanently), but we'll likely have promotions where we'll switch the race or have multiple races active at once. For more insight into Spawning, I recommend reading Slasher's interview with Chris Sigaty.



If they're allowing arcade access for the spawned users, I don't entirely see the point of limiting races since the arcade will allow those people to play the races that are restricted. It's just an extra hassle to deal with. I guess people do pay money to remove extra hassles though.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
June 08 2013 19:40 GMT
#157
While I agree that the races restrictions is a bit misleading at first, it was obvious that they weren't going to let everyone who only have the Starter Edition or WoL play all 3 races in HotS as a spawned player. They still need to make as much sales as possible and this spawning feature might help them.

I'm glad that they released this new feature, finally convince my friend to buy WoL for now (since its 50% off on the blizz store) because of it. Now time to make him buy HotS asap since he can only play Terran in HotS.
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Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:12:39
June 10 2013 19:06 GMT
#158
My brother has WoL and he can play all 3 races when I spawn him, but my cousin has WoL and he can only play Terran ? wtffff.

Anyone have this issue?

Nevermind, , they just changed it O_O
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
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