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IMScientist
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy125 Posts
June 04 2013 17:56 GMT
#61
This is cool if you have Hots you can play with ppl that have wol or starter edition,i think this will attract more ppl
This guy plays like he was sent down from heavens
suddendeathTV
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden388 Posts
June 04 2013 17:58 GMT
#62
On June 05 2013 02:38 HolydaKing wrote:
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On June 05 2013 02:35 sd_andeh wrote:
I wonder why Blizzard doesn't check the success of games like Dota2 and League... Why not make SC2 free to play and open a store much like the one in Dota2 where you can buy skins (e.g the dark zealot skins for protoss) and so on, buy decals, buy portraits or whatever. They'd probably make more cash out of it in the long run and they would attract so many more players.

I have countless of friends who refuse to buy Starcraft as it's quite expensive, especially when there's good and fun free games to play. What student or low incomer, except hardcore Starcraftfans, would BUY Starcraft when they have the option to play moba games for free?

Meh.

What's quite funny though is that those f2p games fans usually spend a lot more than what sc2 currently costs. Or that's what i read from most LoL forums where people say they already spent well over 100€ on the game.

That being said unit skins for multiplayer... ugh, wouldn't like that. Unless there is an option to always show default skins.


I already have that problem in the game though. As in, annoying zerglins-skins and so on. I still want that option no matter what.

On June 05 2013 02:40 Eury wrote:
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On June 05 2013 02:35 sd_andeh wrote:
I wonder why Blizzard doesn't check the success of games like Dota2 and League... Why not make SC2 free to play and open a store much like the one in Dota2 where you can buy skins (e.g the dark zealot skins for protoss) and so on, buy decals, buy portraits or whatever. They'd probably make more cash out of it in the long run and they would attract so many more players.

I have countless of friends who refuse to buy Starcraft as it's quite expensive, especially when there's good and fun free games to play. What student or low incomer, except hardcore Starcraftfans, would BUY Starcraft when they have the option to play moba games for free?

Meh.

EDIT: Just need to clear this up: I am not whining that Blizzard charge people to play the game. I willingly paid for all the starcraft games as I am a huge fan. The reason I'm sad is because Starcraft could have been so much bigger and there could be so many more players.


Because Mobas are team games and Starcraft 2 is mainly a 1vs1 game. People just doesn't care that much about cosmetic stuff when you only play with one other person.


Well, that doesn't really change the fact that we'd get so many more players through f2p. I'm sure most protosses would pay for the zealot skin. Or zergs pay for the raptor-zergling. Even if they don't, more players would only be good. Whenever I check facebook and watch for old friends, I see a lot of "non-gamers" who suddenly turned into gamers when they turned 20-25. However, they don't play sc2, they play MOBA. I don't like that.

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Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
June 04 2013 17:59 GMT
#63
Spawning players now have full access to Arcade games, which means there are no race restrictions in Arcade mode.

Also it means that Arcade mode becomes Free2Play.
Zethiel
Profile Joined September 2010
Bolivia39 Posts
June 04 2013 18:00 GMT
#64
Also great to play with friends from other servers whom with we wanted to do 2v2s or others
Si no duele, no sirve - Esteban Zenteno
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:02:23
June 04 2013 18:01 GMT
#65
On June 05 2013 02:50 Existor wrote:
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Any race (also any maps), as long as he plays in your party.

No, spawned players have only Terrans


Even if they have a WoL account?

In maps like say Peep-mode they would still be able to play any race with Hots unit, right?

Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
ayaka
Profile Joined December 2012
11 Posts
June 04 2013 18:02 GMT
#66
i tested this function, Spawning players can select all race but random.
good blz!
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
June 04 2013 18:03 GMT
#67
On June 05 2013 03:01 Zorgaz wrote:
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On June 05 2013 02:50 Existor wrote:

Any race (also any maps), as long as he plays in your party.

No, spawned players have only Terrans


Even if they have a WoL account?

In maps like say Peep-mode they would still be able to play any race with Hots unit, right?



Custom maps like peepmode and monobattles will let you play other races.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 04 2013 18:04 GMT
#68
On June 05 2013 02:50 Existor wrote:
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Any race (also any maps), as long as he plays in your party.

No, spawned players have only Terrans

I don't know why you would need anything else honestly :p Might as well play the manly race right away.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
June 04 2013 18:06 GMT
#69
Also, Arcade now is a Free-2-Play part of SC2
TheGGparadox
Profile Joined February 2012
United States37 Posts
June 04 2013 18:07 GMT
#70
I wonder if this will help sc2 grow in Korea, seeing as it can be almost f2p with your friends. Maybe sc2 will get more play in pc bangs now...
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
June 04 2013 18:08 GMT
#71
On June 05 2013 03:00 Zethiel wrote:
Also great to play with friends from other servers whom with we wanted to do 2v2s or others


Not really as thanks to global play anyone who has wol/hots will have that game on all servers.

This is a really sexy feature, great to introduce friends to the game who think about getting it.
DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
June 04 2013 18:09 GMT
#72
Cool stuff. Now I want more Carbots achievements and portraits. :D
If your all in didn't work, you didn't pull the workers.
Fix637
Profile Joined February 2011
United States256 Posts
June 04 2013 18:10 GMT
#73
So here's this thing that was the reason we kept LAN out of the game, but we're putting it in as a "feature", except it's actually less functional than what you could do in 1998 because you can only pick one race. It's like we're advancing both forwards AND backwards at the same time!

I don't normally make critical posts to announcements like this, but this seems kind of absurd. I suppose playing with cheap-o friends is cool. Although it sucks that they can only play one race.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
June 04 2013 18:11 GMT
#74
That's a brilliant idea! It's a pretty great compromise to have people pirate the game to friend in order for them to try it out

The debate of having only Terran available is quite interesting. Businesswise it's probably a great idea. I can imagine Zerg and Protoss being very intriguing to try for someone who has only tried Terran (The most boring looking race )
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 04 2013 18:14 GMT
#75
On June 05 2013 02:50 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 02:43 Targe wrote:
Is that all content?

Any Arcade game is a lot


Oh I missed that, that's pretty good.
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Mayd
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland251 Posts
June 04 2013 18:14 GMT
#76
WoL players can play all races but random at the moment.
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Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
June 04 2013 18:14 GMT
#77
On June 05 2013 03:10 Fix637 wrote:
So here's this thing that was the reason we kept LAN out of the game, but we're putting it in as a "feature", except it's actually less functional than what you could do in 1998 because you can only pick one race. It's like we're advancing both forwards AND backwards at the same time!

I don't normally make critical posts to announcements like this, but this seems kind of absurd. I suppose playing with cheap-o friends is cool. Although it sucks that they can only play one race.

You can pick only one race ONLY in Ranked.

Arcade is restriction-less now.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 18:17 GMT
#78
They are going in the right direction! Cool stuff!
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:18:55
June 04 2013 18:18 GMT
#79
Nice ! I didn't think of buying HOTS , but with this i may end up reconsidaring it . So i can play with friends not owning either game and just playing with the starters edition ? That would certainly fire up the interest in any cheapskate wanting to try out the game .
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
June 04 2013 18:19 GMT
#80
That's how I played Warcraft 2.
With my dad buying the game and then connecting two PCs.
The memories... how things change, now the feature exists only because Blizz felt that the acquirent base can grow further.

It's interesting to see TL users praise a company for providing a feature (after selling a game and the expansion at the two-games full prize) that used to be standard years ago: makes me wonder if I'm too old, if money changes things that much, if people are stupid or if I'm too negative. Probably a mixture of all?
It would be fun to see if, whenever LoTV will be launched, some Blizz guy will come up with a "hey guys we solved our problems! Now you have LAN!" - what would the community reaction be like?

On the other hand, one can answer that features aren't to be taken for granted, so I should be grateful in any case.

Am I the only one left with a sour taste in his mouth after hearing this news?
Ironic that actually this is supposed to be good news...
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