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Hey guys I figured this would be a good place to post these replays that feature only swarmhost type of play. This will feature mainly in zvp and 2 games of zvt (vs mech, I will never do them vs bio as I am like 0-15 or so with it lol) and 1 game of zvz.
I will update this with some more for zvz and what not in the future and will bump this thread so keep an eye on that.
This also has my replay of me vs seed as well.
You guys will notice this is all macro oriented swarmhosts and not all in or anything. Hope you guys enjoy!
http://www.mediafire.com/?wpoizw3y33ysp9j
This will also feature transitioning. You don't want to remain on swarmhosts all game that's never a good idea you should be teching + expanding and all that while using swarm hosts effectively.
Here is another 5 games (4 zvp with one of them doing immortal all in, 1 zvt vs mech).
http://www.mediafire.com/?usdy2prgd632i2v
All right guys next 5 games of swarmhost action! This one features 4 zvps Abomb is the only notable I believe and 1 zvt verse a bio player! You will notice that verse the bio is a work in progress, I am trying to optimize the build so look forward to it getting more and more optimized. So far I am 1-3 doing this, but this one was where I made a modification in getting infestors first. still a work in progress .
http://www.mediafire.com/?zl5z1l4q4gajbp5
Another 5 games (feb 3rd 2013). http://www.mediafire.com/?s74jk4ip6ncgf4j (3 zvt, 2 zvp, 2 mech 1 bio)
This one has by far the best games. The zvt ones I recommend all 3 especially the bio one on daybreak. That one was a crazy game. The 2 zvp's feature babyknight and Dbling. I have given up on swarmhosts zvz as I think their shit. I won once but lose most of the time when going them in zvz. So don't expect anymore zvz's.
zvt bio I am liking the swarmhosts for the most part but their definitely a lot harder to use. Requires really good multi tasking to deal with drops + him trying to sneak in and kill them. It's pretty tough but I think their viable.
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This is great. Thank you.
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Fun and entertaining games.
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awesome job thanks for the replays
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I will add these replays to Siege Mushroom guide, okay? Nice games.
Also can you post here tips how to use Swarm Hosts? What you think need to know when using SH? How to better use them in cooperation with other units? Like reposition more often or don't rely only on Swarm Hosts and use them as powerfull support? What you think is uneffective when playing with Swarm Hosts? Etc
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How do you know when he has no observer in mid game fights? especially with everything going on i dont see how you could notice/not notice the blur, or were you just getting lucky sometimes when your army died but you left your SH there even though he still had an army?
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On January 31 2013 15:59 Existor wrote:I will add these replays to Siege Mushroom guide, okay?  Nice games. Also can you post here tips how to use Swarm Hosts? What you think need to know when using SH? How to better use them in cooperation with other units? Like reposition more often or don't rely only on Swarm Hosts and use them as powerfull support? What you think is uneffective when playing with Swarm Hosts? Etc
Yeah that's fine :D.
For tips vs toss I would almost always get them and you want to be active. Don't leave them in one spot unless you know you can safely. If you see him moving up throw down a wave and run back.
I always use them zvp and vs mech their good as well.
With toss I would go ling/corruptor/swarmhost - into late game ultra/ling/bane/infestor/corruptor.
Haven't really had any problems or weaknesses yet in zvp anyway zvt only done it vs mech and won both so no problems as of yet.
On January 31 2013 17:28 sharepass11 wrote: How do you know when he has no observer in mid game fights? especially with everything going on i dont see how you could notice/not notice the blur, or were you just getting lucky sometimes when your army died but you left your SH there even though he still had an army?
You should have an overseer with your army. Guess I dont' really understand the question could you be a little more specific?
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Nice work, thanks man! I will definately check them out this evening. Still havent found a really comfortable way to play zvp.
Btw, is your winrate using SH in zvp quite good or could u only make them work in a few games?
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Awesome replays! I only quickly skipped thru them but I cant wait to go back and watch them all in more detail. I'm so glad to see that these really are not all-in, gimmicky or relying on bad decision making from the opponent. I was sceptical of host play till now. 
Edit: I also gave up on hosts vs bio a while back. Not that it means much coming from someone as unskilled as me
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On January 31 2013 21:28 doggy wrote: Nice work, thanks man! I will definately check them out this evening. Still havent found a really comfortable way to play zvp.
Btw, is your winrate using SH in zvp quite good or could u only make them work in a few games? In zvp since I have been doing this in near undefeated. I have only lost twice out of 15 or so zvp and those games I made a huge mistake and lost.
Decoup me to it took a lot of me messing around to get this build as good as it is now :D.
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On January 31 2013 13:21 blade55555 wrote:Hey guys I figured this would be a good place to post these replays that feature only swarmhost type of play. This will feature mainly in zvp and 2 games of zvt (vs mech, I will never do them vs bio as I am like 0-15 or so with it lol) and 1 game of zvz. I will update this with some more for zvz and what not in the future and will bump this thread so keep an eye on that. This also has my replay of me vs seed as well. You guys will notice this is all macro oriented swarmhosts and not all in or anything. Hope you guys enjoy! http://www.mediafire.com/?wpoizw3y33ysp9jThis will also feature transitioning. You don't want to remain on swarmhosts all game that's never a good idea you should be teching + expanding and all that while using swarm hosts effectively.
You're having the opposite experience than me, Blade. I've found swarm hosts effective against mech (as a cover into brood lords). Host/hydra/corruptor was working well in zvp for me until Protoss figured out how to either punch through it or go around host lines with blink stalkers. In zvz, I've never found a way to be comfortable with hosts as zerg armies are too mobile. =/
(EDIT: and goddamnit blade, don't rar things! >_<)
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On February 01 2013 01:36 Kambing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 13:21 blade55555 wrote:Hey guys I figured this would be a good place to post these replays that feature only swarmhost type of play. This will feature mainly in zvp and 2 games of zvt (vs mech, I will never do them vs bio as I am like 0-15 or so with it lol) and 1 game of zvz. I will update this with some more for zvz and what not in the future and will bump this thread so keep an eye on that. This also has my replay of me vs seed as well. You guys will notice this is all macro oriented swarmhosts and not all in or anything. Hope you guys enjoy! http://www.mediafire.com/?wpoizw3y33ysp9jThis will also feature transitioning. You don't want to remain on swarmhosts all game that's never a good idea you should be teching + expanding and all that while using swarm hosts effectively. You're having the opposite experience than me, Blade. I've found swarm hosts effective against mech (as a cover into brood lords). Host/hydra/corruptor was working well in zvp for me until Protoss figured out how to either punch through it or go around host lines with blink stalkers. In zvz, I've never found a way to be comfortable with hosts as zerg armies are too mobile. =/ (EDIT: and goddamnit blade, don't rar things! >_<) He is using SH against mech. Just not against bio.
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On February 01 2013 02:02 Tuczniak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 01:36 Kambing wrote:On January 31 2013 13:21 blade55555 wrote:Hey guys I figured this would be a good place to post these replays that feature only swarmhost type of play. This will feature mainly in zvp and 2 games of zvt (vs mech, I will never do them vs bio as I am like 0-15 or so with it lol) and 1 game of zvz. I will update this with some more for zvz and what not in the future and will bump this thread so keep an eye on that. This also has my replay of me vs seed as well. You guys will notice this is all macro oriented swarmhosts and not all in or anything. Hope you guys enjoy! http://www.mediafire.com/?wpoizw3y33ysp9jThis will also feature transitioning. You don't want to remain on swarmhosts all game that's never a good idea you should be teching + expanding and all that while using swarm hosts effectively. You're having the opposite experience than me, Blade. I've found swarm hosts effective against mech (as a cover into brood lords). Host/hydra/corruptor was working well in zvp for me until Protoss figured out how to either punch through it or go around host lines with blink stalkers. In zvz, I've never found a way to be comfortable with hosts as zerg armies are too mobile. =/ (EDIT: and goddamnit blade, don't rar things! >_<) He is using SH against mech. Just not against bio.
Ah whoops, misread. Good call. ^_^
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thnx alot m8!!! i wanted some guidelines with the new stuff after a month break cause of university :@
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On February 01 2013 01:36 Kambing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 13:21 blade55555 wrote:Hey guys I figured this would be a good place to post these replays that feature only swarmhost type of play. This will feature mainly in zvp and 2 games of zvt (vs mech, I will never do them vs bio as I am like 0-15 or so with it lol) and 1 game of zvz. I will update this with some more for zvz and what not in the future and will bump this thread so keep an eye on that. This also has my replay of me vs seed as well. You guys will notice this is all macro oriented swarmhosts and not all in or anything. Hope you guys enjoy! http://www.mediafire.com/?wpoizw3y33ysp9jThis will also feature transitioning. You don't want to remain on swarmhosts all game that's never a good idea you should be teching + expanding and all that while using swarm hosts effectively. You're having the opposite experience than me, Blade. I've found swarm hosts effective against mech (as a cover into brood lords). Host/hydra/corruptor was working well in zvp for me until Protoss figured out how to either punch through it or go around host lines with blink stalkers. In zvz, I've never found a way to be comfortable with hosts as zerg armies are too mobile. =/ (EDIT: and goddamnit blade, don't rar things! >_<)
Why don't you like rar things?
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
Maybe because some browsers open RAR archives as text-wall instead saving it as normal RAR-file.
Just use right click and "Save object as..."
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I am watching these games now, I must say first game of you vs. Neeb(Star Station) was awesome! And seconds game between you two was cool as well, I really liked a lot of Hydras, Roaches, Broodlings and Locusts going vs. Hellions and Thors on Howling Peaks, that felt like the true Zerg Swarm, even though a lot of units were spawned units. 
Watching the rest now.
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