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Ramiz1989
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:51 Ramiz1989 wrote: I think that won't be hard, but the thing is, we are trying to make builds where SH work as pressure unit, but no all-in. That strategy is certainly all-in, and I think that it won't work in ZvT or ZvP. I think that this game need less all-ins, not more. :D This. Until this thread showed up (Thanks Blade) pretty much the only opinions of Swarm Hosts you could find on the forums were either that they are useless unless massed, they are only viable as an all-in, or that other units is always a better choice. Finally someone has stepped up and proved that they can be used in standard play, can be used to hold off all sorts of pressure, are very mobile, and are very powerful offensively too. I am really enjoying the evolution of Swarm Host strategy. @Blade. I feel like adding just 1-2 infestors (maybe also burrow if it fits) would make your vs Mech even stronger. Every time the Mech army starts to retreat from a Locust wave you could use just 1 fungal to lock down a small portion of the force. The Terran would be forced to either abandon those units or to engage the Locusts with his whole force. Thanks for the awesome thread! | ||
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Rainling
United States456 Posts
HDstarcraft recently cast your game against IM Seed. 30 minutes in you and another person took control of the game, so we weren't able to see the outcome. Can you release the full replay or say what happened after that point, if you and Seed did finish the game? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
http://www.mediafire.com/?v1ulwe2m71z2x44 | ||
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Rainling
United States456 Posts
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
maybe you can try some viper play also... But not now,focus on the sh | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 04 2013 09:20 Foxxan wrote: i like these replays man maybe you can try some viper play also... But not now,focus on the sh I do use vipers it just depends on the situation and stuff. verse Mech always, bio is so and so and zvp is so and so as well. | ||
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Discarder
Philippines411 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 04 2013 12:21 Discarder wrote: ah cool. I've been waiting for some vids because I don't know how to transition or what upgrades to get after picking a midgame toy...right now I just build stuff that don't make sense and die. Well replays should be able to help you in that department. Also I do plan on doing a couple youtube videos soon with these in action so stay tuned for that! | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
http://www.mediafire.com/?s74jk4ip6ncgf4j (3 zvt, 2 zvp, 2 mech 1 bio) This one has by far the best games. The zvt ones I recommend all 3 especially the bio one on daybreak. That one was a crazy game. The 2 zvp's feature babyknight and Dbling. I have given up on swarmhosts zvz as I think their shit. I won once but lose most of the time when going them in zvz. So don't expect anymore zvz's. zvt bio I am liking the swarmhosts for the most part but their definitely a lot harder to use. Requires really good multi tasking to deal with drops + him trying to sneak in and kill them. It's pretty tough but I think their viable. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
 Btw, don't judge SH in ZvZ yet! You were saying that they are shit in ZvT vs. Bio too and that you gave up on them, and look how that turned out. ;D We have to wait and see, I am pretty sure that there are certain timings where you can exploit them. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 04 2013 18:02 Ramiz1989 wrote: I like units that are harder to use. Btw, don't judge SH in ZvZ yet! You were saying that they are shit in ZvT vs. Bio too and that you gave up on them, and look how that turned out. ;D We have to wait and see, I am pretty sure that there are certain timings where you can exploit them. Well I am going to get my zerg practice partner to play with me so I can mess around with it more. I just dunno if their good or not yet, I feel like their shit xD. But you are right I did say that about bio and i'm finding out I was wrong . | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
Swarm + masslings work? You have any more replays? | ||
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 09 2013 01:41 Foxxan wrote: so swarm work vs bio now? Swarm + masslings work? You have any more replays? I can upload some more. Yes I am finally winning Zvt a lot more with swarm hosts verse bio. Mech easy peasy lemon squeezy to. Vs toss I think some hydras are good with swarms and Zvt some banes. http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?f979aa9hh4jccd9 (verse huk) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?bgpc1w33c9pdia3 (beating sky toss) | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
And especially vs bio terran? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 09 2013 09:48 Foxxan wrote: what do you think of hydras overall? And especially vs bio terran? Hydras I feel have a place in zvp, zvt bio I do not like hydralisks at all. Late game I might add a few as anti-air to hit medivacs, but otherwise wont' make any. zvt mech hydras are good, vs toss I think they are good as long as you have proper support. I personally think roach/hydra is a bad composition in zvp right now, but that is only my opinion that is the main reason i started focusing on swarmhost usage and I am very glad that I did. | ||
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
The Zerglings swooping in everytime it looked like the slower Hosts were in trouble looked sick. I can't be the only one thinking "Siege Tank+Vultures." | ||
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youngtuna
7 Posts
Saw this one game in antiga where zerg got the middle with SH, roaches and lings supporting. The game went on the protoss with 3 bases the zerg got maxed and floated over 4000 minerals at some point. I just thought what if that 4000 was in spines the game would prolly over? | ||
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