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On August 10 2012 06:57 GreYMisT wrote: Luckily you have some ghost pokemon to deal with it- Oh wait, they are all ghost poison, so psychic is super effective against them? Well then! Bug-types ftw | ||
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Drazerk and grush being really spammy. Both really annoying, but when I read the filters, at least Drazerk was a little(?) bit more helpful. I'm thinking + Show Spoiler + On August 20 2012 12:48 Drazerk wrote: Top 3 scum targets thoughts on the 4/25 lol I'm entering the thread posts What is the meaning to life? On August 20 2012 13:01 Drazerk wrote: I hate the word meta and everything assosiated with it you don't really have a real case on him and I am challenging you to present one based on what has already been posted not what he may do because he is grush He's probably going to be replaced / killed anyhow so there isn't a point discussing him until we know whats happening The entrance of the people using blue and Pokealliance. I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them is scum. It's just another way to blend in. I wouldn't mind lynching the scummiest of Kenpachi, grush, wherebugsgo, and Mattchew- which so far is... not enough info... I'm glad to be in a Chezinu game... On August 20 2012 10:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Then you should really stop playing so scummy. Playing as you are now reaks almost as distinctly red as mr kurumi over there. He smells bad. Do you think that Kurumi and Drazerk are a scum team? | ||
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On August 21 2012 06:20 Kurumi wrote: Yeah it is a trap I wanted to check if heist really has the power So what's the difference between this post and the reason why you voted for Drazerk initially? I think he means those who aren't blue... (read: scum) | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 17:44 VisceraEyes wrote: Hilariously, you're simply adding your vote to a preexisting wagon without adding anything new yourself as well. At any rate, a VE lynch isn't happening today so I suggest you try and hide your vote elsewhere. On August 21 2012 19:44 VisceraEyes wrote: So should I go ahead and claim now? Or what...because typically when I reach this point it's pretty much GG for me. Dirkzor is scum because he keeps sheeping you SnB, while trying to pass that off as contribution. He hasn't added anything of substance to the game, and while Bugs says that I've done nothing of significance, I'd argue that my attempt at policy-lynching grush counts as a significant thread action. I agree with the case on Drazerk now that you've deWIFOM'd it - when I read it through the first time, it looked like I was reading a Pokemon card-creator's journal...it didn't look like a case at all. But I get what you were saying now and I agree that he looks scummy for it. There’s a disconnect here. VE’s initial defense against Dirkzor’s vote is basically, there’s no possible way I’m getting lynched, but couple posts later of back and forth with Dirkzor, he claims he should give up. It seems like because he couldn’t get Dirkzor off his back, he goes for the rage tactic. I also However, this is the only thing that really bothers me from VE. The reasons why people are voting VE are pretty sketch. Pushing for a policy lynch against someone who cannot defend himself is anti-town, but the way that VE is convinced that it is a good move convinces me that he’s not scum. And + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 16:50 strongandbig wrote: Oh and I just saw this little gem while I was reading the thread: "Hey guys! You're not paying all that much attention yet to this anti-town thing I did so it's a good time for me to bring up that I know it's anti-town and I was fishing for reactions! Oh but also I still support the anti-town thing but it's actually pro-town now, so don't go accusing me of changing my position!" ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: VE vote is a tool man Also, at least he’s being more useful (zeph case, activity) than some other people. I’m not convinced that VE is scum. I find this a bit more interesting (not really on VE): + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 06:19 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm actually down with policy-lynching grush. This is 100% super serious. JingleHell also wanted to lynch grush. However, he never actually voted for him and once VE got all this flak about policy lynching, he doesn’t back VE up nor say anything about it ever again. He then switches votes on imallinson. I don’t like this at all. FOS: JingleHell On imallinson: I do agree with the original case that imallinson’s first couple posts are meh at best + Show Spoiler [WBG’s case] + On August 21 2012 09:30 wherebugsgo wrote: yeah Mattchew, I don't have as much time as I normally do. I'm going to try not to rage if something retarded happens (like in BC's game) but I'm also hosting AoK mafia which is taking quite a lot more time than expected. I don't like imallinson and I would be fine with lynching him today. If you all would kindly take a glance at his posts, in most of them he fails to take a strong opinion and defers his own stances to the opinions of others. For example: The only real thing he's contributed is that he thinks people aren't thinking "outside of the box" enough with respect to roles (about the multiple power thing). However, that has nothing to do with finding scum and he himself admits its pretty much not of any help: So if it's not going to be helpful why is he spending his time pointing that out instead of trying to find scum? In addition, note his vague language, his meek attitude, and his overall "hide and say a few noncontroversial things and hope no one notices me" style. All of these things are great ways for scum to blend in. ##vote imallinson + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 22:19 imallinson wrote: The other thing I noticed about what Dirk said about my previous games is that he seems to agree fairly strongly with my being scum, even adding his own argument against me (the meta stuff) but doesn't actually back it up with a vote. This looks a lot like someone trying to push the vote onto an easy target but not actually committing to it himself. And this post I like as well. Defending VE I also see as a towntell cause even though he’s being attacked, he’s aware of what’s happening around him and reacting. On Dirkzor: I find that he’s very defensive when attacked by both BC and VE + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 16:26 Dirkzor wrote: A "say nothing post"? I basicly had the samw worries that S&B did in his big case against Drazerk. My post was just completely crap at explaining my problem with drazerk since it was all hunches and feelings. The way I entered was just a punch towards those entering with a town claim which is basicly useless and imo a complete stupid way to enter a thread. While I agree that Drazerk was the biggest focus point during the first part of D1, the solar beam thingy wasn't mentioned in the 2-3 pages before I posted so I brought it up again because it was the only thing worth mentioning. On August 21 2012 17:39 Dirkzor wrote: Hey VE!? Why all of a sudden do you think people should vote me? You have made no mention of this earlier... Perfect time to take pressure off of yourself by adding another subject for scrutiny. A subject with already some focus from BC. If you find me scummy post why! Don't throw a ball up in the air for some townie to catch and throw. Thats what scummy people do... Same thing can be said about your Drazerk turn around. S&B added nothing new to the case but now its a good case whereas before is was bad? Haha. Its the biggest cop-out ever. And I don't want to wait for you to show that you want to find scum. I want you to try and find scum now. And you haven't. Not just a little? ##Vote VE Even though it could have been an honest mistake that Dirkzor really did read the wrong guy, that doesn’t make him town. I would say that he just hastily put that up just to gain some towncred by using meta, which half the time doesn’t even work anyways (which I’m sure he realizes if he actually was town/putting a real case on allinson). I would rather see Dirkzor get lynched over allinson. ##Vote: Dirkzor On the rest: Or we can just get rid of Drazerk. He’s literally just spamming. Either he’s a crazy town trying to draw reactions or he’s scum trying to cause chaos. I choose the latter. The meowth day-vig hit is interesting cause it was on VE. Don’t think there’s much to say though, as it could have easily come from town as scum. And I haven’t forgotten about the four people that entered breadcrumbing blue, though that will have to wait til next time. It’s most likely either Kenpachi or Mattchew though. Kurumi, I don’t think you answered this yet: On August 21 2012 06:47 Misder wrote: So what's the difference between this post and the reason why you voted for Drazerk initially? | ||
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Day 2 post- the only thing of importance (besides the fact that two people flipped scum) is the flavor of the kills. BC vs Wiggles into BC getting dayvig shot- I had BC as scum at the end of Day 1, so I don't believe it's that bad of a shot if it was a town dayvig. (Though obviously, it could be a scum dayvig that wanted to get rid of a vet...). Same thing as before, can't really tell the alignment of the shot. Wiggles put a lot of effort into the case though, which leads me to believe that he's town. I also have WBG as town, though I haven't looked carefully at his filter yet. I just get a town vibe from him. Also VE is town. Drazerk's posting has gotten way better, making me think he's town as well. Mattchew is interesting. When I played with him before GMarshal's PYP, he did the exact same thing he did day 1 when he was town (pointing fingers without backing stuff up, and posting one-liners all the time aka being scummy). If I was going to vote on meta, I would say that Mattchew is a bad lynch target. But I'm not, so ##Vote:Mattchew. Also, there's a JingleHell v Mattchew and a Mattchew v Dirkzor thing going on (where the first person is the one attacking). As for JingleHell, I was actually writing a case on him but it stopped when I read the post where he claimed a role. That claim seems out of the blue, which I don't know if scum would do. He's obviously being more productive though (pushing a Mattchew case) so I don't mind him being alive for now. I feel like lynching Dirkzor would clear up a lot of stuff though, and I still think he's being scummy. But Mattchew works too. | ||
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From my previous post- + Show Spoiler + On August 22 2012 03:14 Misder wrote: I’m not convinced that VE is scum. I find this a bit more interesting (not really on VE): + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 06:19 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm actually down with policy-lynching grush. This is 100% super serious. JingleHell also wanted to lynch grush. However, he never actually voted for him and once VE got all this flak about policy lynching, he doesn’t back VE up nor say anything about it ever again. He then switches votes on imallinson. I don’t like this at all. FOS: JingleHell Following that- this post shows up: + Show Spoiler + This was before Toad had flipped scum/Meowth. This post looks innocent enough before the knowledge, since it was established early Day 1 that outing KP is pretty anti-town. However, in retrospect, it’s an easy way to take pressure off of his scumbuddy. + Show Spoiler + On August 22 2012 10:56 JingleHell wrote: Sorry my activity has been shit. My guts have been acting up, which has had me not interested in thinking much. Occupational hazard of crohn's. Anyways, I'm not comfortable with the people looking at VE because he's playing differently. He took a LOT of crap in Mad Men for his play, some based on meta. If a lot of people want him to play differently, and he's tired of being looked at the way he is, he might just try to play differently. I still like the idea of lynching Grush in absence of real reads, but maybe that's just a combination of me being vindictive and him being Grush. If we have a better target, obviously that would nullify it anyways. Second paragraph is pretty fishy. It’s like, don’t base reads on VE off of meta cause if VE is tired of playing the way he usually play, he’ll change. Ok, but VE established that it wasn’t because he was tired of his old playstyle that he’s pushing a policy lynch, but for the same reason that he, JingleHell, voted for grush. The fact that he didn’t make this connection at all means that he is either a) not really voting for grush because he’s plays anti-town or b) not actually paying attention to the thread, both being scummy. The third paragraph doesn’t help him either, as it seems like he’s going to back to defending that grush is a #1 lynch, even though on Day 1, Dirkzor had a case on him. Even Zephirdd, Drazerk, and VE. The only other person besides grush he posted an opinion on at all on Day 1 was allinson (remember, this post was during Night 1, after the lynch). The timing on this post makes him look even more red as right before this post, grush brings up my original fos on JingleHell about pushing a policy lynch but not actually voting. So now, it looks like JingleHell wrote that post up just to defend himself. + Show Spoiler + On August 22 2012 10:58 JingleHell wrote: EBWOP Grush snuck that in. If anyone I haven't suggested as a policy lynch wants to make a case against me that doesn't revolve around wanting to not read Grush's posts, I'll answer. His accusations are somewhere between a bad joke without a punchline and a half-assed OMGUS anyways. Ok, technically I didn’t make a case, but still, he should have seen the bolded fos on him from me if he was actually paying attention :/ The fact that he defends himself from grush by saying that grush is not worth his time is even more :/ And that’s what he does for 3 posts or so. On August 23 2012 01:36 JingleHell wrote: You seem awfully convinced for this early in the game. Where you getting the information? Firstly, this is not the first instance of someone making a definite claim on someone’s alignment. Secondly, it’s rolefishing. He even says later + Show Spoiler + On August 23 2012 01:56 JingleHell wrote: SnB's alignment. Treating anyone's alignment as definite based off of the minimal info we have is ridiculous for a townie. + Show Spoiler + On August 23 2012 03:10 JingleHell wrote: Since someone recently accused me of not scumhunting (because I asked them why they were doing something that's generally at best null, if not anti-town, no less) I decided to filter dive a bit. Speaking of not scum hunting... also, accusing someone of no reads when this is his most substantial post in the thread at the time is laughable. He wants VE to pick a fight, which is generally not good for town, and he's not sinking his teeth into anyone either. Oh. Tunneling the piss out of Drazerk, too. Whining about a vote on him, fits the trend of non-content posting. Starting to see a trend. Minimal content, wanting to sheep people. Usually scummy to want someone else to lead on cases. This doesn't need much talking about. More wanting to sheep and hide behind other players. Very early assertion of "definite town" on someone, which in this case would require information townies don't have. He claims it's based on other play, but I'd need confirmation of that from someone who knows it. Weak OMGUS finger-point at me that doesn't even make sense under the circumstances considering my "cop out" was to ask him why he did something that's generally scummy. So far, what looks like his most useful post. However… 1) His first line basically indicates that he hasn’t been looking at people’s filters until he was accused. 2) Him using the word “OMGUS” just gets on my nerves and makes me think he’s scum. I doubt this is even legit to say, but idk- thought I’d mention it. Though he did write a case on Mattchew. It would be way more impressive if it wasn’t such an easy target though. 3) Following that, if Mattchew ends up flipping scum, then JingleHell is basically confirmed town. On the other hand, if Mattchew ends up flipping town, it makes this case on him much stronger. 4) At least he put his vote on this guy! Though it was 3 hours after… + Show Spoiler + On August 23 2012 06:26 JingleHell wrote: Apparently I was wrong about Toad, though. Rat bastard scum. So, Kurumi, now that you were being chased by a confirmed scum, what's your thoughts? Any thoughts on my Mattchew case? Speaking of... ##Vote Mattchew Next couple posts he’s just being overly aggressive without actually saying anything. + Show Spoiler + On August 24 2012 01:07 JingleHell wrote: This contributes almost as much as the rest of your filter. Nothing. It casts doubts without analysis, without information, and makes association based on assumptions. Try doing something useful for a change. Heist’s post doesn’t cast doubt, the information that we had at the time was that a dayvig shot BC, and making association based on assumptions isn’t bad. Just seems like he wants to look like he’s contributing while not actually doing anything. Additionally, seems like JingleHell is scared that his Mattchew lynch won’t go through. + Show Spoiler + On August 24 2012 10:02 JingleHell wrote: What do you want me to do more of? I've contributed on Mattchew, and I haven't really got any other clear reads right now. So if I see someone say something that sounds scummy, I chip in, but I'm trying not to clutter the thread. By the way, if Mattchew used his KP, it didn't land on target, since he was confused, courtesy of yours truly, Magnemite. In fact, reading the flavor text, it may have inadvertently been the cause of death of Toad, going by the "shocking end" bit. I cause an ability to hit a random target. I'm not entirely sure why the flavor is different than that of a confused Pokemon hitting themselves, though. Due to the fact that this may sound slightly off, if you feel the need to flip me and make sure I'm telling the truth, just remember me when I'm gone and blue. Admittedly, at first, I found this claim a pretty strong town read and I wanted to wait to see if he makes any more mistakes before continuing on. (I know I said this claim was out of the blue before and that’s why I found it townish, but that was my bad getting the chronology wrong. I was reading only JingleHell’s filter at the time, and I guess I just got confused since I read it first even though Mattchew’s claim came first). After Memetoss pointed out my error, I rethought about it and it still leans towards a town, but much more null. Although as scum, there really wouldn’t be any point in telling us that he used his ability on Mattchew, he could have felt pressured to say so as if he didn’t say anything and people found out he was Magnemite, we would all know that he is scum. + Show Spoiler + On August 25 2012 02:09 JingleHell wrote: Misder, your timing is impeccable, showing up with a weak defense of, and vote on, Mattchew, doubts on me (when I've been after Mattchew)... especially when you talk about MY activity being scummy. Save yourself time and just claim red directly. Again, not paying attention at all. I never said anything about his acivity being scummy. So, basically, he’s defending himself by going aggressive on me without even looking at why I find him scummy… I’ll defend myself I guess, but there really isn’t much to say. Timing- yes. I’ll agree that if I really wanted to stop the lynch, I should have done it not couple hours before the deadline. And that I finally posted something after a pretty long time. If that makes me scummy, fine. Yes, I have been actively lurking. Sorry I wanted to write this all up in one post and got too lazy to finish it. + Show Spoiler + This is how my thought process works. The only thing really wishy-washy is who I want to vote for. I put Mattchew down because I really thought that my vote didn’t have any weight. That’s why I still put up my reads in that post anyways, because I knew my vote itself didn’t explain anything at all. The association between me, grush, and Hopeless1der is ridiculous. On the Hopeless1der bandwagon: I guess I didn’t touch on this before but, he doesn’t look scummy at all. Like, the reason why he’s being called scum is the same reason I’m getting called scum… All in all, I would put my vote on JingleHell if I didn’t want Hopeless1der to die. | ||
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On August 25 2012 04:11 JingleHell wrote: Misder, since you're so convinced I'm scum, and you just posted a giant wall of text, I'm sure you can answer a couple of questions regarding the stupidity and ignorance of your accusation. 1: Why are you pointing out how long it took me to vote Mattchew after posting a case? The vote happened RIGHT AFTER THE DAYPOST. I made the case during the night. 2: In what retarded world does my roleclaim, which prevented Mattchew from being lynched for lying about his KP, somehow make me scum? Scum are dancing to the tune, turn up the heat. Hopeless and Misder at a minimum, probably Grush as well. 1. I looked and you’re right. Nothing more to say besides, I just looked at your filter. 2. Again, that is the one post that keeps on bothering me. Read my response to Wiggles though for my thinking. On August 25 2012 04:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Misder, why do you think Jinglehell would claim his role even though as you say yourself, "Although as scum, there really wouldn’t be any point in telling us that he used his ability on Mattchew"? The reasoning you provide after doesn't hold up, because there was no pressure on him to reveal anything. There was no indication Toad was killed by Matt, it could have been any electric type move. As well, I could easily have been mediced, jailed, bussed, a vet, etc., to explain why I wasn't dead. So if there wasn't pressure on him to claim, why would he do it? Wiggles asks why I think that JingleHell has pressure to say anything when there is a realm of possibilities: my answer- 1) Give himself town-cred 2) I don’t mean pressure from the town; I mean pressure felt internally. When I wrote that, I thought that if I was scum, I would probably say something about it too. And bussing your own town isn't good Hopeless. | ||
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On August 25 2012 04:37 Mementoss wrote: The only logical way jinglehell would claim their as scum, would be if mattchew was scum and jingle was trying to give mattchew some credibility after being under heat. But I doubt they are both scum if you look at how hard jingle pushed mattchew for the majority of the. Why would jinglehell claim if mattchew was town? He wouldn't. Because it makes mattchew look like a liar, and mattchew was already being pushed for the lynch so jinglehell could have sat back and let the townie get lynched. So based on the claims, I think if you think Jinglehell is scum, you almost need to think mattchew is scum by association. No, I definitely agree that they both aren't scum. It kinda makes him look like a liar, but not really at all when you consider that this is PTP (the part where the KP ended up being 1.0 instead of 0.5 as Mattchew claimed doesn't have anything to do with JingleHell's claim). The reason why people were voting for him was because of his Day 1 posts, not because he claimed Pikachu. Claiming a vig role, if Mattchew did end up getting lynched and flip as a town Pikachu, then it would look even worse if there was a role cop or something that found out that he was able to confuse. I don't agree that if JingleHell is scum, Mattchew has to be scum. Am I the only one to think this? | ||
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I've taken some time to rethink my case on JingleHell and maybe I was tunneling too hard. It's obvious my logic isn't the same as everyone else's logic that he would still claim his role if he was scum. We'll see, as I still don't think his actual play is that towny at all. Now, we had three people try to take control of town yesterday (JingleHell, Wiggles, BC before he died). The fact that neither JingleHell nor Wiggles are being as aggressive today is pretty weird, as I would have thought that at least JingleHell would have pushed for my lynch already. It's like he already knows that I'm going to get mislynched, so he's just sitting back and relaxing. I don't get why JingleHell would use his ability again on Mattchew (we don't know for sure, but it looks like it). If that could be explained... please do. | ||
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On August 25 2012 02:04 Misder wrote: Hi again. Day 2 post- the only thing of importance (besides the fact that two people flipped scum) is the flavor of the kills. BC vs Wiggles into BC getting dayvig shot- I had BC as scum at the end of Day 1, so I don't believe it's that bad of a shot if it was a town dayvig. (Though obviously, it could be a scum dayvig that wanted to get rid of a vet...). Same thing as before, can't really tell the alignment of the shot. Wiggles put a lot of effort into the case though, which leads me to believe that he's town. I also have WBG as town, though I haven't looked carefully at his filter yet. I just get a town vibe from him. Also VE is town. Drazerk's posting has gotten way better, making me think he's town as well. Mattchew is interesting. When I played with him before GMarshal's PYP, he did the exact same thing he did day 1 when he was town (pointing fingers without backing stuff up, and posting one-liners all the time aka being scummy). If I was going to vote on meta, I would say that Mattchew is a bad lynch target. But I'm not, so ##Vote:Mattchew. Also, there's a JingleHell v Mattchew and a Mattchew v Dirkzor thing going on (where the first person is the one attacking). As for JingleHell, I was actually writing a case on him but it stopped when I read the post where he claimed a role. That claim seems out of the blue, which I don't know if scum would do. He's obviously being more productive though (pushing a Mattchew case) so I don't mind him being alive for now. I feel like lynching Dirkzor would clear up a lot of stuff though, and I still think he's being scummy. But Mattchew works too. This: On August 28 2012 03:29 Mementoss wrote: Why did wiggles come in just to have his speech of why people shouldnt vote him but never talked about any one being scum On VE: I don't understand why scum would have any incentive to hit a scum VE really. Toad wasn't going to claim Meowth, and scum had no guarantee that Toad was going to die Night 1. So, then if VE is scum, then they would be banking on the fact that Toad would die eventually. | ||
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JingleHell, I've already made a case on. I still don't like his play. The fact that he's not really pushing my lynch besides saying that he wants me dead isn't helping. Third on the list is Wiggles, although I'm really just sheeping everyone else. I find that his case on BC was actually decent, but if BC was setting him up, then it actually makes sense (BC pretending to be a weak target so that Wiggles, who already lost two scumbuddies, could make a play). Also, his play today isn't that appealing, as I was ready for Wiggles to get all up in my grill after yesterday. But then he talks about inactivity not being inherently scummy and all defense, no offense. I can see a Dirkzor being scum, but unlike BC, I don't think it really makes sense for Dirkzor to be scum with Wiggles, as it's putting two scum pushing for the same lynch on Day 1, a bit risky I feel. I also find it a bit suspicious that Zeph is defending me. Gut feeling tells me something is up, but I find his claim pretty townish. | ||
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On August 28 2012 05:10 Mr. Wiggles wrote: VE is scum. Day 1 he came out posting about policy lynching Grush. His reasons were not based on alignment. He put the onus of scumhunting onto other people, telling them it was their responsibility to convince him to lynch someone other than grush. Not convince him that their targets were scummier than grush, because his policy lynch wasn't based on grush being scummy, just that it would be better to try to lynch scum than a random person. After he was rightfully called out on his posting, VE pulled a 180. Some kind of sentiment that VE was town was created, as he very quickly jumped in between three different targets, with only one of them being somewhat original. What puts me off about this, is how quick of a turn-around it was and how badly it reeked of wanting to appease the people out for his blood. First, VE didn't defend his policy lynch on Grush, he just jumped to accusing other people after being accused. As well, VE didn't just accuse one person and attempt to get them lynched, he made a big show of jumping in-between three different targets and saying that he thought all of them were scum. This looks a lot like he was trying to go, "Hey, look at me! I'm scumhunting!", especially when contrasted with his play earlier. So, it looks as though the sudden spurt in apparent scum hunting and effort was made to avoid pressure, which makes sense, since after Day 1 the pressure dropped and so did the contributions from VE. After Day 1, the "scumhunting effort" from VE stopped. His play from then on has consisted of sheeping the lynch sentiment against myself and Misder while adding nothing of value to the cases against either of us. As pointed out by others, VE has been making promises of contribution, but has not been keeping them. Notably, making a case against either myself or Misder. As well, he failed to comment on either my case against BC or BC's defense and case against me while BC was alive. VE makes this post: Saying he will comment on my case. However, even though he was in the thread for the next two or so hours, he never comments directly on the case either by myself or BC, even though he has clearly read them. He avoids taking a side in the conflict between us, which supports VE's general play this game of laying low and avoiding attention, especially if his team was already planning on using their shot on BC. After BC dies, VE comes back and uses the death of BC to put a vote on me. However, read the post where he did so: In this post, VE does not make mention of BC having a good case, or even agreeing with the case BC made against me. Instead he insinuates that the death of BC was a result of trying to get me lynched, and uses the fact that BC has flipped town as a point for people to sheep to in support of him. The point of this post isn't to say that BC made a good case and town should lynch for it, it's to try to manipulate people into voting me because BC wanted to. It relies on an appeal to authority and the assumption that because BC was town, he was correct. Coming from a player with as much experience as VE, this isn't a simple mistake in logic. It's an attempt to cash in on an emotional response to BC dying and flipping town to try to push a mislynch. As for supporting meta, VE usually plays somewhat aggressively and is very outspoken, to the point where he is often lynched early into the game as he forces focus and attention towards himself. This is markedly different from how he has been playing this game, where he has played very passively and avoided attention. This difference could be explained with role considerations giving VE a reason to act as he is, but VE is not playing in a way that he is contributing to the town while maintaining a low profile, he is instead playing in a way that he only does enough to keep people off his back before sinking into passivity again. Altogether, this makes him scum. I like. Still confused why scum would shoot their own scumbuddy (at least the way Toad did it), but I can roll with this. ##Vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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You beat me to the punch, but JingleHell, now that grush wants to join the VE lynch, does that make me even more scummy? | ||
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Or is it, Misder (3) - JingleHell, | ||
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