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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
May 27 2012 21:30 GMT
#10
Yes! I could have a day vigilante power even if I'm a VT!!!!


Fuck yeah I want to /in if possible.

(inb4 I become Doc/Cop/Watcher and can't day vig )
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
May 31 2012 16:18 GMT
#19
When will the signups start?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 05 2012 02:12 GMT
#29
On June 05 2012 10:25 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 08:36 Ace wrote:
Everyone closes their eyes and I call out each role to do their thing: (Mafia, Cop, Doctor, maybe an SK) and all actions go through.

Oh so you have to axe out the "less standard" roles such as watcher and roleblocker? Fully open setup too I'm assuming (e.g. you tell them all there will be 1 cop 1 doc 3 mafia etc.)



Nah, you could still have them.

And you can have a semi-open setup as well.

For instance, each "night" is like this:

"Mafia open your eyes"-They point who they want to kill
"Roleblocker open your eyes"-He points who he wants to block
"Framer open your eyes"-He points who he wants to frame
"Medic open your eyes"-He points who he wants to save, shrugs or something if he was RBed
"Cop open your eyes"-He points who he wants to check, receives check depending on what RBer and Framer did (nod=mafia, no=town, shrug shoulders=you've been RBed)
"Watcher open your eyes"-He points who he wants to watch, and the host points a finger to whom visited that person (no=he wasn't visited, shrug=you were RBed)
"Tracker open your eyes"-He points who he wants to track, and the host points a finger to whom he visited last night (no=he didn't visit anyone, shrug=you were RBed).
"Everybody open your eyes"-He says who died.

He would spend what, like 10 seconds tops between each cycle right? So imagine there is 1 RBer, 1 Framer, but only 1 Medic.
He still says "Cop open your eyes" and stuff, even if there is no Cop, that way people won't know if there is one or not.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 05 2012 02:21 GMT
#31
Doing Holy Roman Mafia in real life would be fun wouldn't it?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 06 2012 04:46 GMT
#51
On June 06 2012 01:59 FreelanceSatan wrote:
Im not a smurf. I have no idea what your talking about.


lol
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 06 2012 04:47 GMT
#52
So, who bets that this game will end in D1?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 05:00:23
June 06 2012 04:58 GMT
#54
Aw damn yeah (forgot about reading that part >_> ) I thought it was a "free for all" shootout >_>

This is less fun

I.E stupid VT shoots 10 minutes at the start of D1, shoots a townie and we go straight to N1. Rinse and repeat each other cycle.

EDITED FOR DERP


EDIT:

Vanilla Towny


Yeah I'm sure this won't bring any problems at all, right? >_>
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 08 2012 19:04 GMT
#84
##Kill: VisceraEyes
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 08 2012 19:04 GMT
#85
Oh wait game hasn't started yet?

gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 09 2012 16:03 GMT
#94
I know who the smurf is

(or at least he's making a good job of impersonating that guy).

I don't want to ruin the surprise though
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 10 2012 23:47 GMT
#104
On June 11 2012 05:58 Toadesstern wrote:
if that was a smurf fail that's hilarious and I should have added
[ ] before the game has started
to the question as well :p

I thought it's someone else though


Same here
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 11 2012 00:54 GMT
#107
On June 11 2012 09:51 FreelanceSatan wrote:
here maybe this will help you remember.

[image loading]



Oh yeah, I remember that time we spent in there, if you know what I mean


Also.....if I'm VT I'm shooting you D1 unless you don't act like an idiot >_>
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 11 2012 04:14 GMT
#114
Wait...does this game start at "in-game" night or at "real-life" night? >_> <_<
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 11 2012 04:19 GMT
#116
Oh great, so I can get shot even before the real game begins >_>
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 11 2012 04:35 GMT
#118
Yeah but I'll be dead right with the Day Post, you'll be dead 10 minutes after the Day Post.

At least you'll live longer
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 11 2012 05:22 GMT
#121
pew pew

Let's get this bad boy started


pew pew pew
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 11 2012 05:44 GMT
#127
On June 11 2012 14:37 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:14 rastaban wrote:
Are millers self aware, can Doctors protect themselves, can watchers and/or millers shoot?

And. Here. We. Go.



Millers are self aware in this setup.


Okay, Millers, claim away.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 11 2012 05:45 GMT
#128
Also, if the Doctor is the most pro-town motherfucker around, he can protect himself each night and just coast through the game invincible until LYLO or sorts where he can save our ass

Thoughts on this?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 11 2012 05:52 GMT
#130
Wait...

Doctor - Saving lives is your job! Shooting people is a no no! You can't day kill but you can protect someone at night. You can't protect the same player on consecutive nights. You can be Sane, Insane, Paranoid or Weak.


Nevermind
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 11 2012 08:25 GMT
#151
Please everybody don't make a L plan to shoot a townie 5 minutes into D1.

If you think someone is scum and really want to shoot them...you can always shoot them later (if everybody follows this trail of thought we'll have normal days).


Okay people, if we have a Miller, do they claim tonight or tomorrow?
If they claim tonight, and we have a cop the cop won't check them, but if they don't claim tonight there' s a chance the cop will.
If they claim tonight however, there's a chance scum will shoot them because of their "semi-confirmed" status (i.e scum never fake-claim Miller, so someone claiming Miller is 80% telling the truth).


Oh wait, here's the plan:


Miller, as soon as D1 starts, claim and you'll be the one in charge of shooting on D1

My plan goes like this:

First of all, a Miller claim will avoid a cop checking him subsequent nights.
Second, the Miller can shoot at day, therefore we can use him to choose the D1 shot.
Third, like said before the Miller is "semi-confirmed" because in average scum never fake-claim Miller, and they will most likely not do it today.
Why? Because then the Godfather will be the one forced to fake-claim

Since the plan is for the Miller to shoot on D1, and the only scum that can do so is the GF, then only him can fake-claim Miller (if any other scum claims Miller, they'll get instantly caught once they refuse to shoot).

So, let's imagine the GF fake-claims Miller, what then?

Then there is another Miller or there isn't:

1) There is another Miller claim:
Then there will be a counterclaim; and one of them will basically be confirmed scum (the chances of 2 Millers is EXTREMELY low). We then let them shoot each other. If the real Miller is faster, great he'll shoot the GF and we'll live happily ever after. If the GF is faster, well then we can kill the GF the next day/night.

2) There is no other Miller claim:
In this case, although we may take him as "confirmed" for a while, he'll be in the spotlight for quite a while.
Not only that, we can make a tracker track him at night, that way we can catch him as GF.


After we get rid of the GF, then catching the remaining scum will be easy if we all claim if we have a gun (and can shoot) or not. Those that claim they have a gun take turns in shooting each day (to actually confirm they have a gun) into the group that claimed they didn't have a gun (of course shooting those we think are actually scum from that group, not shooting our freaking blues >_>).


So, if the GF claims Miller there is a high chance he'll get fucked, therefore I don't think he will.
Therefore I think we can trust a Miller claim tomorrow, and in the worst case we'll get a tracker on him at N2.

So people, this is the plan I was thinking of, do you agree or not?:

To Miller:
  • If someone else already claimed Miller, he's GF so shoot him (and claim Miller in the process)
  • If nobody claimed Miller, then claim Miller
  • After you do, we'll discuss normally and you'll decide the shot, preferably with town consensus, so don't go rogue on our asses.

To Town:
  • No VT shoot until a Miller claims, or until 24 or more hours have passed (to give the Miller time to claim)
  • Everybody, just discuss, scumhunt and catch some filthy scum for the Miller to shoot at

To Tracker the next night:
  • Track the Miller claim


If we don't have any Millers it will be apparent soon (before the 24 hours or so) since everybody will post but there will be no claim.
If that happens, then after the 24 or so hours normal VTs are allowed to shoot.

The purpose of this plan is:

  1. Out the Miller so we have a "semi-confirmed" townie, and so Cops don't check him at night
  2. Either basically catch the GF if he fake-claims, or have the Miller as confirmed townie (after the tracker tracks him)
  3. If we catch the GF; then the rest of the game will be easy as pie
  4. If we don't, then we'll have a "confirmed" townie in the Miller by D2
  5. When D1 starts, we are guaranteed to have time to discuss and not have a random VT shoot 10 minutes into the day, because we'll be waiting for a Miller to claim
  6. When a Miller claims, he'll be the one in charge of the shot so we'll be sure no shenanigans and weird stuff happen (like 2 guys fighting each other and one randomly shooting the other one)


Of course this means everybody would follow the plan (those that have a gun and those that don't), so we are guaranteed to have some D1 time to discuss

So people, what do you think?

Observation:
Maybe the SK can fake-claim Miller, since he can shoot at Day.
However, the SK is forced to shoot at night, therefore a tracker on him WILL catch him.
Also, since a "confirmed" Miller is bad reputation for scum, scum are likely to shoot the Miller claim, so the chances of scum shooting the SK will increase, blowing his cover once he survives the hit (and no medic claims his save).
Basically, the SK fake-claiming Miller will let us/scum catch him sooner or later, and doing so to get the D1 shot (why would he want the D1 shot?) and a little confirmed status for a while isn't worth it for him.

Observation2:
There is a chance we don't have a tracker. In which case we can't confirm the Miller.
First of all, the point is that scum don't know if we have a tracker either, so by having the GF fake-claim Miller they risk we actually having one.
Second, even if we don't have a tracker, the GF will still be in the spotlight, because town will assume the tracker tracked him and got a "good" result (i.e that he didn't visit anyone), but the "Miller" claim will keep being alive throughout the whole game.
This will mean that one day or the other the Miller-fake-claiming-Godfather will fall; so again it's not very convenient for him to do so
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