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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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On March 22 2012 10:43 Hesmyrr wrote: 2. Mafia have one-shot guaranteed power role kill power called NUKE which can be used at night. NUKE is independent from normal mafia NK so can be used simultaneously. Also NUKE will fail if citizen is targeted as mentioned, and subsequent day post will reveal nationality of the target and the fact that nuke had been used. I'm a little confused on the highlighted section. From what I can tell, NUKE is a 1-shot extra KP for scum. But it says it will fail if "citizen is targeted as mentioned"... targeted by what? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 24 2012 03:34 gonzaw wrote: But I wanna nuke some commies as well  The whole US/SU distinction is a modification to the mafia wincon, not the town wincon. The idea is that that mafia's goal is to eliminate either 5 specific townies, or the OTHER 5 specific townies, then survive a day, rather than the normal wincon. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 26 2012 12:43 johnnywup wrote: You need to kill the opposing town faction (US vs SU) in addition to kiling the Nazis, if you are either US or SU. That's not how I read it at all. minated.[/quote] [Player], you are SU Citizen! You have no special powers, but plays critical role of having to catch perpetrators of this crisis before it is too late. You win when all threats to town are eliminated. I don't see anything about US or town factions in there. You win when all threats to town are eliminated. No Nazis, no threats. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 26 2012 12:52 johnnywup wrote: but if both 'factions' are the same side, then why vote bias against US? Unless the factions are just for theme and roles? Read the mafia wincon. EDIT: Mafia wincon here "You win when you outnumber or is equal to the surviving town-aligned players. You ALSO win when your faction isn't eliminated a day after all of either US or SU faction is wiped out. " Emphasis mine. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 26 2012 14:02 zelblade wrote: Why not? This method has been thoroughly tested and has had a 100% success rate so far. Statistics show that this is a stellar plan, no?  I propose we dayvig zelblade before anyone can post | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 27 2012 04:28 Hesmyrr wrote: Well, I'm going to send them out around ~6:30 KST. The roles are already rolled though. You might even say they've already been... "roled" | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Good morning, gentlemen. First off, regarding our discussion of policy lynches: I personally apply a soft "lynch all lurkers" and "lynch all liars" policy to all the games in which I play. My first goal is always to lynch scum. Scum likes to lurk, and scum likes to lie. I am highly suspicious of lurkers and liars, but I will not automatically lynch every lurker and every liar-- this is too easily abused by scum. That being said, I have lynched lurkers and liars in the past and am not afraid to do so in this game. Nobody can convince me to modify my personal stance and I will not do so. Secondarily, regarding setup: This is fairly simple. This is a closed setup with 10 town and 4 scum. Scum can win by either the traditional fashion, or by destroying 5 specific players or the other 5 specific players as an alternative wincon. It is immediately obvious that we should not share our alignment. Anarcy fo life On March 27 2012 10:13 Nemesis wrote: Do you mind posting something coherent? This is a rather crappy post. Town SHOULD always take a stance. If your stance change throughout the game, then you just have to explain why it changed. Scum are the only one who should fear taking stances, as they can get caught when their explanation doesn't match with their stance. The town should not take a unified stance. If we rigidly follow a unified stance scum will just crap on us. We must always adapt to the situation at hand. The idea that you're somehow gonna catch scum because of their thoughts on a POLICY LYNCH is so utterly preposterous as to be asinine in character. Policy lynches are the last resort of a lost town, not some vital centerpiece for scumhunting. I hope you can understand that. ![[image loading]](http://i.minus.com/iUBP2UtMo1zk2.gif) In this image: Blazinghand and Nemesis. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 27 2012 12:22 Nemesis wrote: Lol, ok one last post before I go to sleep. Stop misrepresenting what I said to defend your scummate: 1. I never said that town should take a unified stance. Just that they should take a stance on important things. 2. I never said we shouldn't adapt. In fact, I explicitly said that stances do change, and you just need to explain it when they change. 3. I never said that discussing policy lynches are important. Sinensis, would you please stop inflating useless topics? 1) the idea that the town should take a stance is not good. Individually, we should make our own stances and developed them with the discussion 3) discussion of policy lynches implies they are important. I believe they are important insofar as we use them in an appropriate faction. It seems to me that your statements are unnecessarily aggressive and are hurting the town atmosphere. Your removal will help the town greatly and improve our discourse. In any case, I think this will be appropriate: ##Vote: Sinensis When you wake up I expect some actually helpful posts. Actually, I expect an OMGUS, but ideally you'd make some helpful posts. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FIZjv.gif) come at me bro | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 27 2012 12:39 Blazinghand wrote: In any case, I think this will be appropriate: ##Vote: Sinensis ROFL OOPS TYPIOO ##Unvote ##Vote: Nemesis NOTHING TO SEE HERE MOVE ALONG | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 22 2012 10:43 Hesmyrr wrote: Voting rules: 1. Voting is done in this thread. Do not PM me your vote. I cannot find the thread. It appears to be an underline rather than a hyperlink. Help? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 27 2012 12:54 Nemesis wrote: Ok this might be where you misunderstood what I said. 1. By town making stances. I mean townies, now town as a whole. 3. I was discussing policy lynches to move discussion along. We have to start discussion from somewhere. 1) then be clear about it. I don't like having to go after someone and then him saying "well, by 'town' i didn't mean 'the town' but i meant 'townies'"-- communicate precisely whenever possible. 3) well then I have a real lynch to discuss, your lynch. Much more interesting imo. On March 27 2012 12:54 Nemesis wrote: You just agreed with me right here. Cyber_cheese was saying that we shouldn't take a clear stance on anything because we might change our view later on. I pointed out how that is bad for town, tell me do you agree with what he is saying then? Cyber cheese can go eat a carrot. he's not the relevant party here-- you are. mr. scum. On March 27 2012 12:54 Nemesis wrote: Also, I'm being unnecessary aggressive, what do you call those gifs? Maybe you can take your own advice, you hypocrite. My aggression is both a) necessary and 1) hilarious. you aggression is unnecessary and unhelpful, whereas mine is going after an obvious scum player. I also somehow was so aggressive I woke you up several minutes after you went to sleep. Nobody else notices this? Nemesis, a "town" player, decides to go to sleep, but when he is attacked, magically awakens to defend himself? Oh, it could be coincidence, but maybe he was scum and was trying to find an excuse to lurk-- being asleep. Then, when the pressure was on, he blinked. he felt a need to defend himself, because he is scum. He has already been caught in a lie. What say you to this, sir? I am more confident than ever in your scumminess. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 27 2012 12:59 EchelonTee wrote: preface: this aint no chainsaw blzinghand, I feel that you're being the unnecessarily aggressive one here. first you say it's bad that nemesis is using policy as a centerpiece for lynching, then you state it's bad that nemesis says policy lynch discussion isn't important? your arguement doesn't flow. and dude, you misread his original post; he's saying "town should take stance" as in townies should each have their own stance. ur being all flashy and stuff. is this normal BH? Yeah i'm typically rather aggressive. But it is necessary, and I will not discard my aggression, for it is a vital tool. It has already exposed that Nemesis' lies and it will do more as the game goes on. Maybe he's just a town player who didn't think things through carefully and worded his posts ambiguously (in an attack that is fundamentally about wording posts). But the fact of the matter is, he did somehow wake up to respond to my posts. He will doubtlessly claim that he hadn't yet gone to bed... but bear in mind that his series of actions is distinctly something a scum player WOULD do. + Show Spoiler + reddit.com/r/gifs | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 27 2012 13:15 EchelonTee wrote: blzinghand i think you talking craAAAzzzy, and not the crazy I like. I mean just look at this nonsensical post + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z8LzZ.gif) Blazinghand: I thought you went to sleep. Nemesis: I was just checking thr- Blazinghand: He lied!! Townies never wake back up!! Lynch!!! Jubjubs (chanting): It makes so much sense! The first line, yes. The remaining three have not happened (yet). I suspect Nemesis has realized that feigning sleep would be his best move here-- an accurate perception. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
In my interpretation, yes. I believe the implication is that both C_C and I are scum. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 27 2012 13:26 johnnywup wrote: I don't think you're mafia, blazing, because no mafia would be so stupid to post something so stupid. At least I think. Utterly garbage posting so far. bad logic, anti-town to be bad logic. This kind of thinking hurts town. If you plan on using this sort of reasoning going forwards, you are either scum or worthless town. ##unvote ##vote: johnnywup I'd say "come at me bro" but your argumentation skills are so benign I feel like any "pressure" you put on me will only serve to exonerate me. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 27 2012 14:39 EchelonTee wrote: hey lurkers/semi-newbies who haven't posted yet! feel free to start posting, don't mind the hubbub ^^ what's your opinion on the state of town? answer soon pls!! relevant topics include Fixed that for you. There is only one relevant topic so far. The closed setup is closed and policy lynches are what they are. Redirecting people away from addressing the topic at hand is unhelpful. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 27 2012 15:08 johnnywup wrote: aren't you full of yourself blazinghand? everythings gotta be about you huh? When nobody else is posting content, yes. Everything does have to be about me. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 27 2012 15:13 EchelonTee wrote: I am encouraging players who have not posted yet to come in and post, and in people's opening posts they often address topics that are RELEVANT to the beginning of a game. Am I REALLY being unhelpful BH? Are you REALLY being more helpful than me, with your subversive aggression? I don't expect a logical response, I expect OMGUS. Other people can comment on this if they wish. You're making utterly no sense. No subversion here; I am utterly open. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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