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[Items] Gold/10 Item Efficiencies

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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 16:35:18
May 19 2011 14:45 GMT
#1
Philosopher's Stone: 15 HP/5, 8 MP/5
HP/5 is valued at 29 gold/point (based off of regrowth pendant)
MP/5 is valued at 55.7 gold/point (based off of meki pendant)
Net worth before factoring in gold/10: ~881 gold
Cost Efficiency: 881/800 = 110%

Avarice Blade: 12% Crit Chance
Crit is valued at 50 gold/point (based off of brawler's gloves)
Net worth before factoring in gold/10: 600 gold
Cost Efficiency: 600/750 = 80%

Kage's Lucky Pick: 25 Ability Power
AP is valued at 21.75 gold/point (based off of amp tome)
Net worth before factoring in gold/10: ~544 gold
Cost Efficiency: 544/765 = 71%

Heart of Gold: 200 HP
HP is valued at 2.64 gold/point (based off of ruby crystal)
Net worth before factoring in gold/10: ~528 gold
Cost Efficiency: 528/825 = 64%

UPDATED 8/14/2012
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 19 2011 15:05 GMT
#2
get two of them philos on ma alistar and outlast any vlad player in the world
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 17:00:56
May 19 2011 15:36 GMT
#3
Its so funny, when I started to play LoL a year ago... I rush Philosopher's Stone every game and all my team call me bad, noob, shit player =(

And wdf, 1 year later, Philosopher's Stone is da new FOTM??
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 19 2011 15:37 GMT
#4
philostone used to cost over 200 gold more, give the same stats and not build into anything.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
May 19 2011 15:40 GMT
#5
*and riot steadily nerfed all the other overly-efficient items

That's right, folks. Nerfing is the answer to every balance problem.
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 19 2011 16:36 GMT
#6
On May 20 2011 00:40 myopia wrote:
*and riot steadily nerfed all the other overly-efficient items

That's right, folks. Nerfing is the answer to every balance problem.

QQ me a river. Nerfing other items was correct and nerfing Philostone is the right way to fix this current imbalance.

In the meantime, run 0 Mp5 and rush double philostone on all laners with mana. Thank me later.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 19 2011 16:40 GMT
#7
Pretty simple evidence for philo stone nerfs, but in the meantime abuse that roaming meta
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 17:10:43
May 19 2011 17:10 GMT
#8
Step 1) Make philo stone hyper cost effective
Step 2) Nerf heart of gold
Step 3) Make philo stone build into tenacity item

????

Step win) Philostone on everyone
volcryn
Profile Joined November 2010
United States149 Posts
May 19 2011 17:18 GMT
#9
more evidence of philo stone being OP

1) 800g to build philo stone, sells back for 400g
2) upgrade to Eleisa's miracle for 400g, sell back for 840g
3) net gain 40g (assuming you were selling the philo stone anyway)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 19 2011 17:22 GMT
#10
You upgrade and then sell it for extra money? Hilarious. Are there any other items like that?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
volcryn
Profile Joined November 2010
United States149 Posts
May 19 2011 17:25 GMT
#11
not that I'm aware of
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 19 2011 17:27 GMT
#12
nope, it's the only one that works that way. It works out like that since doran's and gold/10 items sell for 50%, while other items sell for 70%. The other gold/10 upgrades are too expensive to net profit.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 19 2011 17:30 GMT
#13
LOL WHAT
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 19 2011 17:31 GMT
#14
I never realized that, but it makes sense to me. Lawl, still retarded though.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 17:35:24
May 19 2011 17:34 GMT
#15
On May 20 2011 00:37 Mogwai wrote:
philostone used to cost over 200 gold more, give the same stats and not build into anything.

ít didnt give gold per 5 either
In the woods, there lurks..
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 19 2011 17:35 GMT
#16
On May 20 2011 02:34 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 00:37 Mogwai wrote:
philostone used to cost over 200 gold more, give the same stats and not build into anything.

ít didnt give g5 either

yes it did. unless I'm super trippin' balls, it has given gold/10 since like, november of 2009.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 17:39:21
May 19 2011 17:38 GMT
#17
Why would they name it a Philosopher's Stone if it didn't have gold/10?

Also according to LoL wiki it has had gold/10 before Sept of 09.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 19 2011 18:11 GMT
#18
I certainly had gold/10 when I started LoL, but that only was like half a year ago...

Guess I actually might dig up my Regrowth opening on Ashe again. It's not exactly good against burst though (roamers!). I was using armor seals and MP5L glyphs lately, so that would then change to MRL glyphs which is at least some extra safety.
I wonder how it will fare.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
May 19 2011 19:17 GMT
#19
My team got mad at me when I bought my fourth Philosopher's Stone.
But why?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 19 2011 19:18 GMT
#20
yeah costing that way with regen items doesn't work
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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