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CASLsoju
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada253 Posts
January 10 2011 19:56 GMT
#1
I used to play BW since around 04, but I only played it with friends every night on LAN and all we did was play fastest possible haha. I didn't know that anything outside fastest and sunken D even existed.

With that being said, I'd like to get back into BW, except as a serious player now. I got really good at SC2 in a short matter of time and I'm super bored of how easy it is. I want a challenge.

I pretty much don't know anything about BW, anyone have a good place to get started?
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines720 Posts
January 10 2011 20:03 GMT
#2
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Main_Page

read power ranks to soak in some history if you want
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
shadesofkarma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Romania708 Posts
January 10 2011 20:06 GMT
#3
http://www.iccup.com/

Private ladder where all competitive players outside Korea play. It's pretty tough but don't be discouraged. Don't worry about strategies, just work on your macro and multitasking for now (a lot tougher in BW than in SC2), once you can macro to a reasonable degree (keep resources below 500 most of the time), then read up on strategies in the BW Strategy forum or on BW Liquipedia.
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
January 10 2011 20:10 GMT
#4
wathching vods make me wanna play bw a
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9540 Posts
January 10 2011 20:23 GMT
#5
Here are some threads that can give you additional information:
  • [R]From SC2 to BW, a noob's journey.
  • Just bought BW (recommended read)
  • I want to play bw
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
CASLsoju
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada253 Posts
January 10 2011 20:28 GMT
#6
Sick thanks guys, been watching VOD's and it's just that much better than SC2. WAAAAAAAY more intense. Will gives these links a visit.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
January 10 2011 20:29 GMT
#7
you might want to try brainclan instead of iccup now that it kind of is losing players.. much more crowded on brainclan
Aah thats the stuff..
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
January 10 2011 20:29 GMT
#8
If SC2 is so easy for you, I suggest winning tournaments and going pro?
OnFire
Profile Joined July 2010
324 Posts
January 10 2011 20:36 GMT
#9
If you're really good, why have I never heard of you?
Also, when I scanned you with my retard-o-meter the ratings were off the charts, just for the record.

User was temp banned for this post.
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playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
January 10 2011 20:37 GMT
#10
Yeah, play on Brian clan. That's a challenge for sure.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
January 10 2011 21:05 GMT
#11
Watch Shinhan Winnersleague, MBCGame Starcraft League, OnGameNet Star League.

Basically, every single Korean professional game. They will teach you endless amounts of knowledge.

I'd check this out: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Meta_game

And then go here (it would help if you listed your race, but learn all three to improve on the above link): http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Terran_Strategy http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Zerg_Strategy http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Protoss_Strategy
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 10 2011 21:12 GMT
#12
lol saying you got good at sc2 and saying it is too easy is pretty funny because i doubt you were actually good as nobody would have heard of you so don't try to say that :D.

But for bw your going to be asking alot of questions in the strategy section as its a very tough game ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 10 2011 21:26 GMT
#13
SC:BW is 100% mechanically more difficult to become proficient at than SC2. Lack of MBS, 12 unit selection, no smart casting... I don't think you have to become a pro to think a game is too simple. Not everyone defines mastery of a game as being the best player in existence. For some mastering the concepts of the game is the challenge.

It's like if I say I wanna play Go because Checkers is too easy. Sure I'm not the best checkers player in the world, but checkers really is decidedly simple. I can feel like I've 'mastered' checkers without going to competitions.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
January 10 2011 21:51 GMT
#14
On January 11 2011 06:12 blade55555 wrote:
lol saying you got good at sc2 and saying it is too easy is pretty funny because i doubt you were actually good as nobody would have heard of you so don't try to say that :D.

But for bw your going to be asking alot of questions in the strategy section as its a very tough game ^^.

Even though there might be many definitions of ”good” when it comes to SC, its pretty ridiculous to claim that OP wasnt good because you havent heard of him. There are tons of good players that you never heard of. For me it’s a good thing that people get back to BW so why don’t you give him some tips instead of this “yo, come back when u won GSL”-attitude?

On topic:
People have already mentioned the benefits of Liquipedia, iCCup and watching professional BW, so I just want to add that many find it easier to pick a race and focus on one match up at the time. It is also good to find people you can play regularly, preferably people that are slightly better then yourself. Lastly, don’t get discouraged if you lose all the time, because you will, instead just focus on having fun and see your losses as a part of the process of getting better.
-_-
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 22:00:29
January 10 2011 21:59 GMT
#15
finding a clan on west or east is probably more fun than just fighting random people on iccup. Its good to do both but if your new it would probably be benificial to join a clan and get help from players who know the game a bit better. However, assume everyone on west or east is a D player no matter how good they seem and they say their rank is. Players off iccup have no way of judging their rank and whenever they get better at sc they just assume that if their a half a level better than whatever they last thought their rank was.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
shadesofkarma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Romania708 Posts
January 10 2011 22:16 GMT
#16
On January 11 2011 06:59 puppykiller wrote:
finding a clan on west or east is probably more fun than just fighting random people on iccup. Its good to do both but if your new it would probably be benificial to join a clan and get help from players who know the game a bit better. However, assume everyone on west or east is a D player no matter how good they seem and they say their rank is. Players off iccup have no way of judging their rank and whenever they get better at sc they just assume that if their a half a level better than whatever they last thought their rank was.


If you visited East or West recently you would know that the foreign scene on both servers are pretty dead. Hell, even /j clan X17 went under.
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
January 10 2011 22:26 GMT
#17
i've been an avid bw fan since 98. gave the sc2 thing a go from beta until now and i have to say the game just isnt fun anymore (for me at least). sure sc2 uses more strategy than bw, but it is nowhere near the challenge bw is mechanically. when strategy becomes second nature, all that's left to improve on are mechanics. and lets be honest, how many of us are constantly coming up with new strategies? most of us have a few strategies in the bag and work off those.

FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10483 Posts
January 10 2011 23:13 GMT
#18
watch a TON of videos and get back into gaming. at this point, if you're still clueless, then just ladder random and see the results. after the season ends, you're back on and fresh of a D- season. xD.

But in a serious sense, i agree with puppykiller. just go on US East or west. mostly everyone will be like mid D... low D+ max. just play there, get warmed up, then go on iccup.

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Red.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Spain228 Posts
January 10 2011 23:26 GMT
#19
excuse me guys is it just me or broodwar is years ahead of sc2? just played a match in iccup and its pretty damn hard compared to sc2... i think im quitting sc2 for BW
"Truth is cold and tough; lies are warm and always give you an excuse"
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
January 10 2011 23:36 GMT
#20
On January 11 2011 08:26 Red. wrote:
excuse me guys is it just me or broodwar is years ahead of sc2? just played a match in iccup and its pretty damn hard compared to sc2... i think im quitting sc2 for BW


Lol... this is cute you made me smile man.
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