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gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
September 03 2010 15:13 GMT
#1
Left-click the img to view in native size.


[image loading]


First pic, free low-quality stream (300k)

Second pic, paid medium-quality stream (500k)

Third pic, what I get (and rest of the Koreans) (HD. dunno bitrate)


I understand the reason Gretech is capping the stream bits. The underwater lines that runs from Korea to rest of the world is seriously capped and there hasn't been line expansions in a while. All the internet connections are managed by KT, and the bandwidth to other countries is further capped if you use internet service providers other than KT.

As Gretech was suggesting (from Torch's thread), they may be preparing for HD streams, and that may mean they're currently undergoing the process of installing some servers outside of Korea, but until then, if they won't allow re-streaming or youtube, the first and second img will be the norm.

Not to be mean-spirited or anything, but I find it funny that Gretech wants to cater to the foreign audience with a paid stream that's worse than free korean streams.

Gretech may want to allow re-streams at least till they can get the HD streams going, but hey, that's just me.
telamascope
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
September 03 2010 15:16 GMT
#2
I'm not complaining. I'm happy that the free stream.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 15:23:13
September 03 2010 15:18 GMT
#3
Couldn't they cut a deal with ustream or a similar provider for the servers they need? Since they just stream at certain time periods and occasions this should probably be cheaper than having a full time solution. Perhaps Octoshape would work with the p2p picking up the slack?


The streams seem decent enough, I can't watch the HD stream quality from Korea in any case. Lags too much, works great from EU/US though.
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
September 03 2010 15:19 GMT
#4
Free stream looks a bit bad but whatever it's free. Besides, people will be re-streaming the high/HD anyway.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 15:22:36
September 03 2010 15:21 GMT
#5
Happy with the current setup as well. Also torch already said that GOMTV is working on a free Add supported HD stream.
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maJes
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom186 Posts
September 03 2010 15:23 GMT
#6
Thanks for this info!

Will definately be useful when deciding whether or not to fork out for the HQ stream
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lolbad
Profile Joined August 2010
Marshall Islands35 Posts
September 03 2010 15:24 GMT
#7
who cares. if you cant tell whats happening on the screen by the low quality one the HD wouldnt help you either
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
September 03 2010 15:26 GMT
#8
Maybe I'm a philistine but I'd watch the low quality over the HD to save bandwidth lol. Too bad for ISP download limits.
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
September 03 2010 15:27 GMT
#9
I don't think the paid stream looks too bad. I'm definitely going to buy it, if only for the vods.
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Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
September 03 2010 15:31 GMT
#10
I said this in the other thread, but I think it's fine. It's a nice middle ground where they can still make money, which hopefully will help e-sports in the long run, while still letting people watch for free.
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WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
September 03 2010 15:36 GMT
#11
suddenly i dont feel so sure im gonna watch GSL.
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 03 2010 15:37 GMT
#12
Anything except korea HD looks like utter garbage. Worse than what you'd find on the internet 5 years ago.

Isn't technology supposed to be moving forward?
EoR
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland127 Posts
September 03 2010 15:39 GMT
#13
Stream quality seems fine for a free stream.
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 15:41:38
September 03 2010 15:40 GMT
#14
What you guys are forgetting is that unit/resource counter is pretty much unrecognizable in the foreign streams.

That leaves understanding what's going on in the match completely in the hands of the casters. That's okay if you just turn the streams on and work on other stuff like me, but it'll matter to those who play this game seriously and wants to see/predict everything in the game.
BaaL`
Profile Joined May 2010
297 Posts
September 03 2010 15:44 GMT
#15
Fair enough! I will definitely pay for better quality, hoping they can upgrade to the Korean quality soon
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
September 03 2010 15:48 GMT
#16
Should HD stream out of korea, and restream from somehwere else in same quality, would cost them less.
Donner
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany91 Posts
September 03 2010 15:48 GMT
#17
quality is fine for free-stream, i just hope there wont be too many lags
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
September 03 2010 15:56 GMT
#18
the quality of usual BW stream is in between the low & high imo, not to mention the the graphic in SC2 is 50x better than BW (which means it's easier to notice visual quality differences)
so well, I wont complain. still better than nothing
HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
September 03 2010 15:59 GMT
#19
The low quality stream is a bit ugly but it's ok because it's free.
I hope we will be able to find low quality vod for free.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
September 03 2010 16:00 GMT
#20
The free stream looks like when I havent cleaned my glasses for a while. Unacceptable for an event of this magnitude. The biggest tournament should have the best stream quality. Why it should be difficult to have the stream "beamed" to a location outside Korea and then redistributed in full quality from there is beyond me.
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