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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 04:14:35
September 08 2010 04:10 GMT
#101
I doubt most people would even know the GSL was happening if it wasn't for TL. It's not like GOM advertises itself, TL is the only good source of Korean Starcraft news.

In fact, I have no idea how anyone would learn about the GSL if TL didn't tell us about it. Other sites just steal news from TL when it comes to Korean events.
mcneebs
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada391 Posts
September 08 2010 04:42 GMT
#102
I've been viewing the restreams because China isn't allowed to view the gomtv.net feeds. Does this mean I'm allowed to view the korean HQ videos? hmmmm
You do it to yourself. Just you. You and no one else.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 08 2010 04:48 GMT
#103
On September 08 2010 13:42 mcneebs wrote:
I've been viewing the restreams because China isn't allowed to view the gomtv.net feeds. Does this mean I'm allowed to view the korean HQ videos? hmmmm


What? Why would China ban chinese from watching korean e-sports? Then again they did block blizzard's World of Warcraft ip for months...
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mcneebs
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada391 Posts
September 08 2010 04:50 GMT
#104
No, GOM is preventing me from viewing the videos. They're saying that the "service is not available in my reigon". I can watch livestream, but not blip.tv or ustream (no day 9 for me )
You do it to yourself. Just you. You and no one else.
bjwithbraces
Profile Joined April 2010
United States549 Posts
September 08 2010 05:02 GMT
#105
I'm completely happy with the LQ free stream(as long as it works). I don't need to see every high quality piece, as long as it's clear enough to see units. Sure the HQ is great, but LQ is more than enough. If it was so low quality you could hardly make anything out I might buy HQ, but atleast ATM LQ is good. Ty GOM
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Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
September 08 2010 05:06 GMT
#106
What I don't understand is why the VODs are such low quality (same as "high") for people who paid $20 for the season ticket.
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
September 08 2010 09:54 GMT
#107
On September 08 2010 10:19 MavercK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 09:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On September 08 2010 02:28 Nokeboy wrote:
TL is only hurting the GSL. Teamliquid needs to refuse to put restreams on front page. There is like over 5k people usually in a restream. If GSL actually got them numbers, better things could happen

Restreaming issue aside, TL is a huge help to GSL just by gathering so many StarCraft fans and making news posts about the tournament. How exactly is GSL advertising outside of Korea? I haven't heard of anything. It seems like their plan is to just announce their tournament and let SC news sites gather all their customers for them.


irregardless. the stream wont improve if gom's viewer count doesn't improve.
at the very least there should be consistant reminders that if you CAN watch the direct stream you SHOULD.
it's nice to have the restreams there for people having problems. but i worry people who can watch the direct stream fine are just watching restreams

and to almost everyone in this thread
as gom's viewer count increases so will the quality of the stream.
if gom can actually pick up some international advertisers for the ad breaks im betting they will increase the quality then aswell


While that seems like a reasonable assumption, it is still assumption. Unless GOM comes out and states why the quality is so bad we don't know if it's a money issue or not. Didn't Blizzard partner up with GOM to kill off Kespa? In that type of situation you should be prepared to invest enough start up money to make sure it succeeds. If you have a reasonably good system the VODs are really just painful to watch right now.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19245 Posts
September 08 2010 11:31 GMT
#108
On September 08 2010 18:54 Grond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 10:19 MavercK wrote:
On September 08 2010 09:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On September 08 2010 02:28 Nokeboy wrote:
TL is only hurting the GSL. Teamliquid needs to refuse to put restreams on front page. There is like over 5k people usually in a restream. If GSL actually got them numbers, better things could happen

Restreaming issue aside, TL is a huge help to GSL just by gathering so many StarCraft fans and making news posts about the tournament. How exactly is GSL advertising outside of Korea? I haven't heard of anything. It seems like their plan is to just announce their tournament and let SC news sites gather all their customers for them.


irregardless. the stream wont improve if gom's viewer count doesn't improve.
at the very least there should be consistant reminders that if you CAN watch the direct stream you SHOULD.
it's nice to have the restreams there for people having problems. but i worry people who can watch the direct stream fine are just watching restreams

and to almost everyone in this thread
as gom's viewer count increases so will the quality of the stream.
if gom can actually pick up some international advertisers for the ad breaks im betting they will increase the quality then aswell


While that seems like a reasonable assumption, it is still assumption. Unless GOM comes out and states why the quality is so bad we don't know if it's a money issue or not. Didn't Blizzard partner up with GOM to kill off Kespa? In that type of situation you should be prepared to invest enough start up money to make sure it succeeds. If you have a reasonably good system the VODs are really just painful to watch right now.

"irregardless" isn't a word.

And it's a catch-22. The stream won't get better quality without more viewers, and it won't get more viewers until it's better quality.

Also, I'm not sure why the VOD quality is so bad. They should be able to show those at Korean HD quality no problem (aha, but they use GOMPlayer instead of allowing downloads!)
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 12:47:00
September 08 2010 12:46 GMT
#109
Just try to hit up the gomtv site once in a while, while watching a restream.
They register the hits, and see that their capacities are at the limit.



And i'd only wish the VODs were better quality. Seems worse than the HQ stream.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 08 2010 13:00 GMT
#110
The quality of the free stream is almost perfect for me. Note that it varies a little, so you get a much better picture from time to time, than the one in the OP.

It's also very light. For example, I actually can't watch Day9 dailies live without major difficulties, because they are so heavy on traffic and cpu lately, with this hd quality.
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Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
September 08 2010 16:46 GMT
#111
On September 08 2010 20:31 tofucake wrote:

And it's a catch-22. The stream won't get better quality without more viewers, and it won't get more viewers until it's better quality.

Also, I'm not sure why the VOD quality is so bad. They should be able to show those at Korean HD quality no problem (aha, but they use GOMPlayer instead of allowing downloads!)


We don't know that the VOD problem is a bandwidth issue. It could be an encoding issue. The VOD quality is incredibly poor, I can't read a single number on the screen. Since the VODs don't have to be hosted in Korea they should be higher quality than the stream, not lower quality.
Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
September 08 2010 17:14 GMT
#112
Maybe Blizz is waiting on someone big like MLG to express interest in managing SCII for the West.
[MIG]kenny
Profile Joined May 2010
17 Posts
September 08 2010 17:20 GMT
#113
On September 08 2010 14:06 Reason.SC2 wrote:
What I don't understand is why the VODs are such low quality (same as "high") for people who paid $20 for the season ticket.


If it was only that good quality, but the VODs look pretty much like the free stream during the games.
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
September 15 2010 09:23 GMT
#114
how can i configure properly my GOMplayer to get better quality ?

in HD is horrible.
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Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
September 15 2010 09:27 GMT
#115
Now that the price is $20 for Stream and VoDs I have no problem paying. And I have been loving this tournament ... even if there are only 6 zerg left
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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
September 15 2010 09:34 GMT
#116
Cant even get to watch the stream, why would I purchase premium. second night in a row max users met.
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 15 2010 10:17 GMT
#117
Ya it's still maxing out. You'd think they would try to increase stream capacity when they max out every day...
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
September 15 2010 12:01 GMT
#118
On September 15 2010 18:34 Phayze wrote:
Cant even get to watch the stream, why would I purchase premium. second night in a row max users met.


You have priority as a premium user. Never had a "stream full" message.
GoDannY
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany442 Posts
September 15 2010 12:04 GMT
#119
The qualitiy is rising really promising, I am thinking of purchasing a package next season (if I have time to watch live, timezones suck... )
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12049 Posts
September 15 2010 12:35 GMT
#120
I've been fine watching the free stream, it's no worse than watching broodwar on Livestream as the only things you can't really make out are the numbers and smaller images.

Anything important you can see anyways.
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