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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 17:59:12
September 03 2010 17:58 GMT
#41
Looks like I'm getting up early on a Saturday morning to watch cartoons Idra snap some blurry necks.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
September 03 2010 18:00 GMT
#42
On September 04 2010 02:49 Vaporized wrote:
so the idra match is on at 3am pst? somebody clear this up for me please.


yes
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
September 03 2010 18:02 GMT
#43
I'm just happy that we have a free stream. Not much complaining by me especially since I'm not paying.
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
September 03 2010 18:05 GMT
#44
Free stream should be fine...
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
September 03 2010 18:07 GMT
#45
On September 04 2010 00:16 telamascope wrote:
I'm not complaining. I'm happy that the free stream.

Yup this, and considering thechange I've been thinking about just buying the premium stream. I'm liking Gom quite a bit.
Nu11
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada167 Posts
September 03 2010 18:07 GMT
#46
anyone else have the gom site not load for them? It keeps 404ing..
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
September 03 2010 18:10 GMT
#47
Free stream will be okay to watch. Sure it's blurry, but sound quality is fine and you see most of what's going on. Numbers are hard to read but should be okay with commentary. It's free anyway.

I will buy the premium stream 2nd day and onwards if the 1st went well with no lag.
Tanatos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States381 Posts
September 03 2010 18:19 GMT
#48
We are just happy to hear Tastless and Artosis casting. I wouldn't complain about quality, since it is understandable.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
September 03 2010 18:38 GMT
#49
On September 04 2010 02:33 Roffles wrote:
a shitty stream is better than no stream.


'nuff said.
pointy stick
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany19 Posts
September 03 2010 18:47 GMT
#50
thanx gom, i'll gladly accept the free sq (shitty quality) stream
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
September 03 2010 18:51 GMT
#51
as long as i can tell what's going on i'm happy with the low quality stream.
CScythe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada810 Posts
September 03 2010 18:59 GMT
#52
I'm satisfied with any stream if it's free. Also Tastosis is casting so we'll know what's going on even if we can't see it :D
Jameser
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden951 Posts
September 03 2010 19:06 GMT
#53
holy shit I just tested my connection it's at 2300kb/s I did not expect that! will probably buy the 20$ HQ + VOD ticket
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 03 2010 19:22 GMT
#54
On September 04 2010 02:36 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 02:33 Roffles wrote:
On September 04 2010 00:56 Arceus wrote:
the quality of usual BW stream is in between the low & high imo, not to mention the the graphic in SC2 is 50x better than BW (which means it's easier to notice visual quality differences)
so well, I wont complain. still better than nothing

Absolutely not. If you've ever seen a real BW stream that's not restreamed on Livestream/Ustream, then you'd know that straight up not even the High compares to BW streams. I've even seen 3000k streams on Afreeca before. Crystal clear and crisp, was ridiculous.

But a shitty stream is better than no stream.


500k SC2 looks far better than 3000k BW imo.

Okay. Keep telling yourself that.
God Bless
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
September 03 2010 19:25 GMT
#55
Already paid for the HQ stream (after price drop of course). Very pleased at the SS of that quality level. I don't need HD, but LQ streams are always just so bad, you can't even really see the micro.
i-bonjwa
Rokk
Profile Joined March 2010
United States425 Posts
September 03 2010 19:31 GMT
#56
On September 04 2010 02:34 Alou wrote:
This is better than nothing or paying the $50. Anyone who wants better should pay for the quality boost. I'm fine with this.


And this is why marketing strategies work. Believe what you want about their intentions, just from reading the recent threads on TL, it's apparent that if they did plan this marketing strategy, it was wildly successful.

The free stream's quality is awful. The paid stream's quality isn't bad but is pretty awful for having to pay $20 to see it. I would have expected the free stream to be around "High" quality and the paid stream to be HD quality.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
September 03 2010 19:42 GMT
#57
On September 04 2010 01:26 Manaldski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 01:00 Rabiator wrote:
The free stream looks like when I havent cleaned my glasses for a while. Unacceptable for an event of this magnitude. The biggest tournament should have the best stream quality. Why it should be difficult to have the stream "beamed" to a location outside Korea and then redistributed in full quality from there is beyond me.


It's simple, GomTV understands that it will be difficulty to stream lagless from Korea (be it in low or high quality) so they rented a US server to be able to broadcast in Low/High quality to the rest of the world. By default the network settings of the OSes are not suitable for high-speed transfers over a single session over high-latency links, that's why you cant just stream HD-video off your US West Coast server because it will be laggy for most of the people outside America, who haven't tuned their network settings. To broadcast in HD (you will probably need 3-4Mbit bitrate for the video to look good) worldwide without lag you will need a CDN, which costs money.

TheGunrun demonstrated the "high" stream quality [500k] and then showed his own one for GLHF.tv [1.4M] and it was a big and visible difference. They are doing FREE streams already in his quality and I think he said he would be willing to stream it if he was asked, so go figure why I think that some people simply want to make money and simply give excuses for putting out a crappy free stream and make people pay for "high" quality.

We already had some pretty big tournaments with free super high quality streams during the beta and I doubt the number of viewers will be much bigger than that and it worked and did not require any special super upload streamer.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 19:57:46
September 03 2010 19:56 GMT
#58
On September 04 2010 02:36 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 02:33 Roffles wrote:
On September 04 2010 00:56 Arceus wrote:
the quality of usual BW stream is in between the low & high imo, not to mention the the graphic in SC2 is 50x better than BW (which means it's easier to notice visual quality differences)
so well, I wont complain. still better than nothing

Absolutely not. If you've ever seen a real BW stream that's not restreamed on Livestream/Ustream, then you'd know that straight up not even the High compares to BW streams. I've even seen 3000k streams on Afreeca before. Crystal clear and crisp, was ridiculous.

But a shitty stream is better than no stream.


500k SC2 looks far better than 3000k BW imo.

In terms of clarity, no.
Maybe if you think shiny things make it look better then okay.

I don't even think you've seen a 3000k BW stream tbh.
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
September 03 2010 20:29 GMT
#59
To those of you who are stating: "oh we can just put it on ustream it will be fine." Realize that gom's main product is the gom media player, and putting something like this on ustream will defeat the purpose of trying to spread their product. At this point low quality stream is fine since this is their first entry into sc2 tournaments. They already stated they are trying to get higher quality but it is expensive to stream that high quality video through their own media player.
hohoho
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
September 03 2010 20:33 GMT
#60
I hope someone restreams tomorrow.
GomTV has always given me problems.
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