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+ Show Spoiler +(I have had the vaccine before writing this)
As we all know the swine flu pandemic is here. It will hit people with uncureable diseases and lung problems (maybe more, cant remember) harder then the usual people.
I have astma myself, so I am included into the danger zone.
Then I started thinking about the vaccine, the media has been telling the public how bad and how dangerous the vaccine is supposed to be (atleast in Denmark they have).
The media's arguements were that the vaccine contains mercury and nervegas. Well that sounds awful, doesn't it? Well while the vaccine does contain mercury and nervegas, according to a doctor (who my dad talked to) there is more mercury in a plaicefillet.
Now while people might argue for and against how much it contains.
But if the doctor my dad asked isn't completely full of shit then either plaicefillet's are very unhealthy or the mercury in it does nonexistant damage.
Now, however I wouldn't go as far as saying the vaccine hasn't side effects.
Because it has. The side effects I am experiencing + Show Spoiler + is pain in the place where the needle has been (can't use my left shoulder without it hurts), nausea, headache, stomachache and dizzyness.
To say it so everyone can understand it, you get a not-so-bad influenza for 48 hours. Which is a pain in the ass.
The doctor said that the side effects would last 1-2 day after the vaccine.
Even though most of the pain was cured by taking a pinex (pain-relieving pill) I still had nausea.
So for all of you guys who consider taking the vaccine. I wouldn't advice you to unless you either have uncureable diseases or lung problems (such as astma) because 1-2 days of sickness really sucks. Also I am going to have another vaccine in a week. (Probally means another 48 hours of pain, yay!)
When my side effects aren't showing anymore I will keep you guys up to date with how many hours it took me to get back into shape.
Sorry in advance if it is badly written, english isn't my native language.
Edit: Had it better after 2 days, no aches today
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My theory about the vaccination is that the events of "I am Legend" will happen in 2012! But seriously, my mother is a pharmacist and she told me to avoid taking the vaccination at the early stages because we don't really know what are the longer term side effects might be.
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On November 21 2009 01:08 DragoonPK wrote:
My theory about the vaccination is that the events of "I am Legend" will happen in 2012! But seriously, my mother is a pharmacist and she told me to avoid taking the vaccination at the early stages because we don't really know what are the longer term side effects might be.
Ahw, how I hate your last sentence, "long term" =(
However unless you aren't in the danger zone (lung problems / uncureable disease).
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Really? Our campus just got it's supply of H1N1 vaccines, but from what I've heard not many people have had many symptoms, and those who had symptoms got administered the nasal spray.
Hope you get well soon!
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My sideeffect was slight pain when a friend slapped me on the muscle where they put the needle, nothing else.
So for all of you guys who consider taking the vaccine. I would strongly advice you to so because death or weeks of sickness really sucks. 
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On November 21 2009 01:08 DragoonPK wrote:
My theory about the vaccination is that the events of "I am Legend" will happen in 2012! But seriously, my mother is a pharmacist and she told me to avoid taking the vaccination at the early stages because we don't really know what are the longer term side effects might be.
Heh, and my mom's a district nurse. She's not taking it at all 
And neither am I. The swine flu is milder than the regular, yearly flu we have, and I prefer to build my resistance the old fashioned way rather than taking this still debated vaccine.
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I don't think you're qualified to advise people about having or not the vaccine, doctors are.
It has side effects , like every vaccine , like any medication. ( personnaly my shoulder hurt a bit for about 24 hours).
The H1N1 can be dangerous (death) for everybody, even young people with no chronic disease.
(older people are kind of immune because they were in contact with the virus years ago).
It has already killed people. I don't think there is a case of someone whose life was in danger because of the vaccine.
So if I can advise people, do the vaccine.
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I got the regular flu vaccine since it's more dangerous and the shot was free from my job.
Swine Flu doesn't scare me.
As long as you don't end up with dystonia (or w/e) the vaccine won't be painful. (regular flu shot, not swine)
youtube video to backup the idea of dystonic tendencies from a flu vaccine:
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*I did ask the woman who gave me my flu shot she said that most side-effects and dangers are only at risk of people who have serious illnesses and things like this happen in a 1 in a million.
Flu shots are good guys, don't _not_ get one.
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On November 21 2009 01:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I got the regular flu vaccine since it's more dangerous and the shot was free from my job.
Swine Flu doesn't scare me.
That's incorrect. Swine flu is more dangerous for people of our age (15-35 ?) , without chronic disease. It's the opposite for older sick people.
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On November 21 2009 01:16 Captain Mayhem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2009 01:08 DragoonPK wrote:
My theory about the vaccination is that the events of "I am Legend" will happen in 2012! But seriously, my mother is a pharmacist and she told me to avoid taking the vaccination at the early stages because we don't really know what are the longer term side effects might be. Heh, and my mom's a district nurse. She's not taking it at all And neither am I. The swine flu is milder than the regular, yearly flu we have, and I prefer to build my resistance the old fashioned way rather than taking this still debated vaccine.
Thank you. I agree wholeheartedly with what you just said. I'm sooo tired of the talk about the swine flu in Sweden, people think it's some sort of mass killing virus. GET REAL lol
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On November 21 2009 01:19 amoxicilline wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2009 01:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I got the regular flu vaccine since it's more dangerous and the shot was free from my job.
Swine Flu doesn't scare me. That's incorrect. Swine flu is more dangerous for people of our age (15-35 ?) , without chronic disease. It's the opposite for older sick people.
So, why haven't I read anything in the news about people below the age of 40 who died from it? You'd think that the journalists would be more than happy to post that, since all they've got over here are a handful of people above 40, who all had asthma, cancer and such conditions beside the swine flu.
Risk patients, who got the vaccine FIRST, were all people with chronic diseases, hospital staff and school children. The 20-35 year old "clean" group will most probably get it last.
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On November 21 2009 01:19 amoxicilline wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2009 01:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I got the regular flu vaccine since it's more dangerous and the shot was free from my job.
Swine Flu doesn't scare me. That's incorrect. Swine flu is more dangerous for people of our age (15-35 ?) , without chronic disease. It's the opposite for older sick people.
Amount of time's I've caught H1N1 in the past year: 0
Amount of time's I've caught a strain of seasonal flu in the past year: 2
Danger =/= Deadly
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On November 21 2009 01:28 Captain Mayhem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2009 01:19 amoxicilline wrote:On November 21 2009 01:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I got the regular flu vaccine since it's more dangerous and the shot was free from my job.
Swine Flu doesn't scare me. That's incorrect. Swine flu is more dangerous for people of our age (15-35 ?) , without chronic disease. It's the opposite for older sick people. So, why haven't I read anything in the news about people below the age of 40 who died from it? You'd think that the journalists would be more than happy to post that, since all they've got over here are a handful of people above 40, who all had asthma, cancer and such conditions beside the swine flu. Risk patients, who got the vaccine FIRST, were all people with chronic diseases, hospital staff and school children. The 20-35 year old "clean" group will most probably get it last.
Actually, in Canada, most of the deaths from H1N1 have been below the age of 40 some with asthma and some without.
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On November 21 2009 01:28 Captain Mayhem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2009 01:19 amoxicilline wrote:On November 21 2009 01:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I got the regular flu vaccine since it's more dangerous and the shot was free from my job.
Swine Flu doesn't scare me. That's incorrect. Swine flu is more dangerous for people of our age (15-35 ?) , without chronic disease. It's the opposite for older sick people. So, why haven't I read anything in the news about people below the age of 40 who died from it? You'd think that the journalists would be more than happy to post that, since all they've got over here are a handful of people above 40, who all had asthma, cancer and such conditions beside the swine flu. Risk patients, who got the vaccine FIRST, were all people with chronic diseases, hospital staff and school children. The 20-35 year old "clean" group will most probably get it last.
There are some people of the 20-35 year old group ( without chronic diseases ) who died because of ARDS or Cytokine storms.
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One guy I know got the vaccine, then got H1N1 anyways.
GG.
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On November 21 2009 01:16 amoxicilline wrote:
I don't think you're qualified to advise people about having or not the vaccine, doctors are.
It has side effects , like every vaccine , like any medication. ( personnaly my shoulder hurt a bit for about 24 hours).
The H1N1 can be dangerous (death) for everybody, even young people with no chronic disease.
(older people are kind of immune because they were in contact with the virus years ago).
It has already killed people. I don't think there is a case of someone whose life was in danger because of the vaccine.
So if I can advise people, do the vaccine.
I am qualified to say my opinion and tell other people what they're going into. And I didnt include the danger for children because of the reason so few children are on tl.net
And I never said that your life was in danger? I said it had side effects which is really annoying, geez man, you sound like I try to scare people off the vaccine, I just told people that it what happend to me (and the doctor said I would get this).
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I got it 2 days ago - went in to see the doctor for something unrelated and he told me I might as well get it since I was there. Regular flu vaccine went in one arm, H1N1 vaccine went in the other. The next day I had a mild pain in both arms, similar to if I was lifting weights the day before. 2 days later, the arm with the H1N1 vaccine is still sore (hurts to sleep on that side) but no other side effects.
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It should be more important for people who are in certain environments during the day, such as health care professionals that work in hospitals for example. They are at increased risk of getting the H1N1. I just finished my rotations for my semester so I didn't receive it, nor do I think I will get it. But that is just personal preference!
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On November 21 2009 01:45 DBunny wrote:
I got it 2 days ago - went in to see the doctor for something unrelated and he told me I might as well get it since I was there. Regular flu vaccine went in one arm, H1N1 vaccine went in the other. The next day I had a mild pain in both arms, similar to if I was lifting weights the day before. 2 days later, the arm with the H1N1 vaccine is still sore (hurts to sleep on that side) but no other side effects.
Meh, lucky bastard.
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On November 21 2009 01:33 OreoBoi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2009 01:28 Captain Mayhem wrote:On November 21 2009 01:19 amoxicilline wrote:On November 21 2009 01:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I got the regular flu vaccine since it's more dangerous and the shot was free from my job.
Swine Flu doesn't scare me. That's incorrect. Swine flu is more dangerous for people of our age (15-35 ?) , without chronic disease. It's the opposite for older sick people. So, why haven't I read anything in the news about people below the age of 40 who died from it? You'd think that the journalists would be more than happy to post that, since all they've got over here are a handful of people above 40, who all had asthma, cancer and such conditions beside the swine flu. Risk patients, who got the vaccine FIRST, were all people with chronic diseases, hospital staff and school children. The 20-35 year old "clean" group will most probably get it last. Actually, in Canada, most of the deaths from H1N1 have been below the age of 40 some with asthma and some without.
Could you post a source of that? Because, as I said earlier, this flu is actually MILDER than the regular one. I've got that confirmed from more than one doctor so far, so your results would be rather strange.
Fun thing, if you've got time left over
THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE IS FOR EVERYBODY!
Find a reliable source, ask your local doctor, or anything of the sorts. Check how many have been infected by the virus so far, and compare to how many have died from it. Worldwide.
Now do the same with the regular flu.
The ONLY reason it's so scary is because it's a brand new strain, and that we don't have any resistance to it yet. NOT because it's especially deadly.
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