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Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 17:40:27
November 20 2009 17:38 GMT
#41
i have heard and read many opinions and doctors talking and i have to end up not taking the vaccine. Seriously, they don't even know if it works correctly, they don't even know if it can affect you in longterm. Some side effects don't have to be shown right after taking the vaccine, but it can affect your body in "invisible" ways. Also vaccination might be the origin of alergies. I am not taking that bullshit risk, i better take the risk of getting swine flu..If you are healthy person with no disorders, or lower imunity, you should do ok. The body itself is very strong to deal with these damn viruses. And if i die from swine flu, hell i was wrong, but i doubt that...

Also, how long the H1N1 virus known? Do you think that they actually can made in that time 100% working and safe vaccine...? I also doubt that. As someone said, you are more like laboratory rat if you take it..
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 20 2009 17:41 GMT
#42
On November 21 2009 02:34 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 02:03 Foucault wrote:
I'm with Captain Mayhem. The vaccine is a huge waste of money


Negative. The vaccine is a way of keeping societies healthy.


Yeah? How about adressing obesity in America instead of swine flu. I wonder how many people die from heart attacks and other obesity-related diseases each year. Now there is a real problem compared to the flu.

It's all about perspective. And paying huge amounts of money for a vaccine for this flu is ridiculous.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
November 20 2009 17:59 GMT
#43
On November 21 2009 01:16 amoxicilline wrote:
I don't think you're qualified to advise people about having or not the vaccine, doctors are.


On November 21 2009 01:16 amoxicilline wrote:
So if I can advise people, do the vaccine.


Kind of a hypocritical statement there.
cava!
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 18:04:31
November 20 2009 18:04 GMT
#44
So far the people in Sweden that either has died or became serious ill in the swine flue all have had extremely poor health or rare and very bad chronic conditions or illnesses.

The last one that died wasn't even healthy enough to take the damn vaccine, there isn't much hope for these kinds of people.

I got the swine flue around 3 weeks ago (went to a hospital and got it confirmed) all I had was soar throat for around 3 days, then it was gone.
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DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
November 20 2009 18:09 GMT
#45
not all bugs need drugs.
amoxicilline
Profile Joined August 2005
France1124 Posts
November 20 2009 18:28 GMT
#46
On November 21 2009 02:59 cava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 01:16 amoxicilline wrote:
I don't think you're qualified to advise people about having or not the vaccine, doctors are.


Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 01:16 amoxicilline wrote:
So if I can advise people, do the vaccine.


Kind of a hypocritical statement there.



not really
I'm a doctor.
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
November 20 2009 18:29 GMT
#47
I survived it

longest week ever but it's ezmode.
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cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
November 20 2009 18:40 GMT
#48
On November 21 2009 03:28 amoxicilline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 02:59 cava wrote:
On November 21 2009 01:16 amoxicilline wrote:
I don't think you're qualified to advise people about having or not the vaccine, doctors are.


On November 21 2009 01:16 amoxicilline wrote:
So if I can advise people, do the vaccine.


Kind of a hypocritical statement there.



not really
I'm a doctor.


My apologies
cava!
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 20 2009 19:15 GMT
#49
On November 21 2009 02:41 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 02:34 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On November 21 2009 02:03 Foucault wrote:
I'm with Captain Mayhem. The vaccine is a huge waste of money


Negative. The vaccine is a way of keeping societies healthy.


Yeah? How about adressing obesity in America instead of swine flu. I wonder how many people die from heart attacks and other obesity-related diseases each year. Now there is a real problem compared to the flu.

It's all about perspective. And paying huge amounts of money for a vaccine for this flu is ridiculous.


Apples and oranges. Obesity can't be treated with a simple vaccine. It's a lifestyle change lol.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
November 20 2009 21:13 GMT
#50
The Swine flu vaccine gives you permanent DNA damage, try youtube -> "David Icke swine flu"
Proburu
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 20 2009 21:22 GMT
#51
On November 21 2009 06:13 eNoq wrote:
The Swine flu vaccine gives you permanent DNA damage, try youtube -> "David Icke swine flu"


lol

You can't be serious. We all know David Icke is the most reliable source of information ever. Actually I just got super curious as to what Dawkins would say about Icke :D

something makes me think that you are not being sarcastic and if you are, you're doing a bad job
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
November 20 2009 21:26 GMT
#52
On November 21 2009 06:22 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 06:13 eNoq wrote:
The Swine flu vaccine gives you permanent DNA damage, try youtube -> "David Icke swine flu"


lol

You can't be serious. We all know David Icke is the most reliable source of information ever. Actually I just got super curious as to what Dawkins would say about Icke :D

something makes me think that you are not being sarcastic and if you are, you're doing a bad job


I'm not being sarcastic, i'm just putting the truth out there.
Proburu
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
November 20 2009 21:37 GMT
#53
When there aren`t enough vaccines to go around, not everyone can have one.

I am a healthy male, aged 21. No major health problems (my biggest problem is my cholesterol could be a bit lower).

Now, one of the people I`m in rez with has a compromised immune system. She is on medications for arthritis which suppress some of her immune responses. As such, I made sure that she was going to get the shot as soon as possible. She definitely needed it more than me.

Unfortunately, she contracted H1N1 before she could get the shot..... As contagious as it is, there are 3 of us that were living in close proximity to her, and none of us caught it. So I think that there is a little bit of an unhealthy hype over it..... Not saying it`s something to be ignored, but it definitely isn`t as big of a deal as the media is making it out to be. She`s been over it for over 2 weeks now.

Regardless - if a surplus of vaccines suddenly appears, I would probably go out and get it myself. But, as of right now, I`ll let someone else have it. There are other people who need it much more than I do.



Also - any vaccine (or any medication for that matter) has the chance for complications. It happens. But if it happened too often, that medication would not be on the market. Or it would be taken off asap. That is how the system works. The system should be trusted.
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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
November 20 2009 21:42 GMT
#54
I took the vaccine two days ago, I've had a small headache the entire day today and felt kinda feverish this morning, but the headache is fading now and I feel fine.

I think a lot of you are missing the point here. The real danger isn't that it's "super dangerous" and that people die because of it. People die in the regular flu each year. What I think is concerning people, is that we don't have a developed resistance against this virus. Which could potentially mean that, if it spreads quickly, schools and companies would get knocked out. People would be lying home sick, and it'd basically put society on hold for a few weeks which will cost a shit load of money and hospitals etc would be overrun.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 20 2009 21:44 GMT
#55
On November 21 2009 02:36 Night[Mare wrote:
swine flu is fucking bullshit. Its just a harder flu that's all. Its not a terrible disease, the media just overreacted. we are here on a "second wave" flu and everybody just live their lives normally. IMO dont waste your money, just take health precautions and if you ever get contagion just treat yourself with care and nothign more

Ya'know, the "don't waste you money" arguement is pointless for those who have health insurance (or what you call it in USA / Mexico)
In the woods, there lurks..
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 21:52:24
November 20 2009 21:52 GMT
#56
H1N1 would hardly even be news if there was anything else worth making news about going on. I'm not going to bother with the vaccine, and most of the doctors I know wouldn't either if the state wasn't forcing them to get it.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 22:35:36
November 20 2009 22:29 GMT
#57

oops i trolled here.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
CoL_Drake
Profile Joined March 2005
Germany455 Posts
November 20 2009 22:37 GMT
#58
chance to die to swineflue to the infected and death people is ROUNDED 0,0%

wow ,,, WE WILL ALL DIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
November 20 2009 22:38 GMT
#59
Man so many people don't listen to reason. The purpose of the flu shot isn't so that you, the healthy individual, doesn't get swine flu. It's so that the people around you maybe friends, family, or anyone else who may not be as healthy or may have serious health problems doesn't end up getting the flu from you and put in serious danger just because you don't the shot because it's not dangerous for you.
meow
teh leet newb
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1999 Posts
November 20 2009 22:46 GMT
#60
I got the nasal spray about a month ago, and I didn't experience any side effects. A lot of people at my university campus got the vaccine, and there have been no reports of side effects.
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