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Sometimes I hate America(ns).. a lot (I live in the USA by the way).
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/101909_man_caught_making_coffee_naked_faces_charges
Summary:
5:30 in the morning.
Man is making coffee in his kitchen without any clothing. Woman walks by with your young son, sees the man, and calls the police. Police ARREST the man.
End Summary.
WTF. I am at home naked all the time. I have windows, and if someone really wants to spy on me they can. I wonder what would happen if a woman got 'spotted' naked in her room by a man... if something the man would get charged.
WTF
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While this story is certainly humor tinged with sadness, the fact is our overly litigious society has created some major problems. The prime example of this is ridiculous medical malpractice suits leading to insane health care costs. It's the fault of the courts for allowing such retarded charges.
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Well I am sure they have to respond and work it out.. the situation COULD have been the man knew a boy/mother/both would walk by or w/e and exposed himself for his pleasure (some odd people get a kick from that).. if it truly were he was just making coffee oblivious to that giant window people walking by could see him through then hopefully he gets off (haha) with a light charge if anything at all.. I agree in your own house you should be allowed to be naked but I understand why the police had to act.
This is all dependent on faith in the court system though hehe
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On October 23 2009 03:50 Ingenol wrote: While this story is certainly humor tinged with sadness, the fact is our overly litigious society has created some major problems. The prime example of this is ridiculous medical malpractice suits leading to insane health care costs. It's the fault of the courts for allowing such retarded charges. actually the malpractice suits don't lead to insane costs, they proved this in a study
however, the fear of the malpractice suits (which can't be quantified) may certainly be a cost, kind of like the billions we spend on anti-terrorism... owait oops
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eh, it sucks, but if its easily visible like that then it's in the public domain.
same thing with warrants, evidence, etc
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On October 23 2009 03:47 ultramagnetics wrote: Man is making coffee in his kitchen without any clothing. Woman walks by with your[her] young son, sees the man, and calls the police.
I don't understand. If the woman is calling the police because she saw a naked man, how did she have a son?
The other possibility is that she's calling the police because she doesn't want her son seeing the naked man. First off, a young boy seeing a naked man isn't a big issue. They're the same gender. Has he never seen his father? Never been to a public changeroom?
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couldn't they have just told him he has to keep his curtains/blinds shut? that sucks
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Yeah, I agree that the police have to act to a phone call- it could be some sexual deviant who poses naked in front of the window. At 5:30 in the morning... slightly unlikely, but nevertheless, the fact that the police acted is nothing wrong. They are just doing their job.
The ridiculous part to me, is that the man was ARRESTED. The job of the Police is not to arrest every man that some bitch with a child thinks is 'indecent'.
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I think the real question is what was a mom doing outside with her son at 5:30? School doesn't start that early. The man has every right to be naked in his OWN HOUSE. It's his private property. The woman is just being a fucking bitch about it and people like that are really the worst kind of people.
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On October 23 2009 03:59 Durak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2009 03:47 ultramagnetics wrote: Man is making coffee in his kitchen without any clothing. Woman walks by with your[her] young son, sees the man, and calls the police. I don't understand. If the woman is calling the police because she saw a naked man, how did she have a son? The other possibility is that she's calling the police because she doesn't want her son seeing the naked man. First off, a young boy seeing a naked man isn't a big issue. They're the same gender. Has he never seen his father? Never been to a public changeroom?
not the issue.
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Wow. that's crazy, I have a huge window that faces the park at my house and when I get out of the shower I walk across into my room but I have to pass by the window that's ridiculous that if I were in america I could be arrested for that.
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Not the issue? That's exactly what happened. If you're trying to generalize this to be "Can people be naked in their own homes if it's visible to the public" then that's different. You'd have to make some clear distinction about the degrees of "visible" which I don't think is possible.
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Could not the uptight lady just look the other way? It's like the guy who mooned a car on the freeway and got chared since there was a 13yo boy in the car he mooned or something like that. I cant belive how people get offended by everything and also act out about it. If I see something I dont like or hear something I dont want to hear I just ignore it. It's not that hard really.
I hate people.
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She was just "cutting through the front yard" with her son at 5:30AM for what reason? Isn't 5:30AM a little dark for a casual walk?
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[e] Bleh, edited out my post because I was one minute late to post it.
Read post above mine.
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I am sure the case will be dropped unless others come forward and say the same thing.
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If he really wanted to expose himself in an indecent way, why would he do so at 5:30? Sad that the woman already has reproduced.
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On October 23 2009 04:04 Durak wrote: Not the issue? That's exactly what happened. If you're trying to generalize this to be "Can people be naked in their own homes if it's visible to the public" then that's different. You'd have to make some clear distinction about the degrees of "visible" which I don't think is possible.
its called the "reasonable person standard" and its used on a case by case basis
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I'm confused... the article says 5:30am but the follow up says it was at 8:30 am. That sounds more likely. Also, his house is across from a school bus stop which is why the police are taking it more seriously. But it still seems ridiculous to arrest someone rather then giving him a warning to keep his blinds down.
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On October 23 2009 04:14 Bosu wrote: I am sure the case will be dropped unless others come forward and say the same thing.
Except that the damage is already done. Money paid for the 911 operator, the police time, the judge's time, the court's time, all the supportive administrative staff time, and the lost work time for the accused guy. Good job overly paranoid mother. Nobody is wrong, per se (ie. cop was doing his job, mother trying to protect her child, etc), but this is what happens in an overly bureaucratic, overly litigious democratic society.
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