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carpola
Profile Joined August 2010
United States168 Posts
May 12 2012 22:47 GMT
#1881
Let's Go Caps!!!
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 13 2012 02:03 GMT
#1882
Dale Hunter, awful. Just awful coach.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
May 13 2012 02:05 GMT
#1883
Rangersssssssssssssss


(out of the remaining teams, I'll cheer for them!)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 13 2012 02:09 GMT
#1884
Weee 2-1 Rangers over the Caps.

NYR versus NJD in the Eastern Conference Finals. Doesn't get much better than that!
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
May 13 2012 02:23 GMT
#1885
fuck yes NYR.

cup or bust
:-)
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
May 13 2012 02:57 GMT
#1886
On May 13 2012 11:03 Sub40APM wrote:
Dale Hunter, awful. Just awful coach.


Agreed. Personally, I don't see him back in Washington next year for one reason or another.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 08:47:47
May 13 2012 08:45 GMT
#1887
On May 13 2012 11:57 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 11:03 Sub40APM wrote:
Dale Hunter, awful. Just awful coach.


Agreed. Personally, I don't see him back in Washington next year for one reason or another.


Well they let Budraux fail 4 times in playoffs in even worse fasion, so i actually don't see them changing Hunter for at least 1 more year...

Im so very much disappointed. Oh well, dat game 5...
Drone is a way of living
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 13 2012 08:54 GMT
#1888
Yea, if Bodroue had Holtby playing the way he did in any of those years the Caps would have gone further. There was literally nothing about Dale Hunter that made the goalie play amazing hockey. What his style did manage to do was (a) put out a bunch of people who take dumb penalties at critical moments and (b) cripple any kind of offensive dynamic for the team. You could see it with the way the Rangers played this game, 4 guys collapse on their goalie all game long.

JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 09:50:41
May 13 2012 09:48 GMT
#1889
On May 13 2012 17:54 Sub40APM wrote:
Yea, if Bodroue had Holtby playing the way he did in any of those years the Caps would have gone further. There was literally nothing about Dale Hunter that made the goalie play amazing hockey. What his style did manage to do was (a) put out a bunch of people who take dumb penalties at critical moments and (b) cripple any kind of offensive dynamic for the team. You could see it with the way the Rangers played this game, 4 guys collapse on their goalie all game long.



"Bodroue" ? who? lolz.

Hunter did alright. Washington did a nice job keeping it close.
The Rangers are a better team.

All playoff teams rely on good to great goaltending to win.
Hunter has always done a nice job with the London Knights.

Ovechkin was on his ass on the Ranger blue line while the Rangers were rushing the puck up the ice for a 2-0 lead.
Hunter did a nice job limiting Ovechkin's ice time.

As Scotty Bowman has demonstrated many times its a coach's #1 weapon to make players fall in line.

Washington did not lose because of Hunter. They lost because the Rangers are better.


Conn Smythe Trophy Scoreboard

Richards 1
Ovechkin 0
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4107 Posts
May 13 2012 11:33 GMT
#1890
On May 13 2012 18:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 17:54 Sub40APM wrote:
Yea, if Bodroue had Holtby playing the way he did in any of those years the Caps would have gone further. There was literally nothing about Dale Hunter that made the goalie play amazing hockey. What his style did manage to do was (a) put out a bunch of people who take dumb penalties at critical moments and (b) cripple any kind of offensive dynamic for the team. You could see it with the way the Rangers played this game, 4 guys collapse on their goalie all game long.



"Bodroue" ? who? lolz.

Hunter did alright. Washington did a nice job keeping it close.
The Rangers are a better team.

All playoff teams rely on good to great goaltending to win.
Hunter has always done a nice job with the London Knights.

Ovechkin was on his ass on the Ranger blue line while the Rangers were rushing the puck up the ice for a 2-0 lead.
Hunter did a nice job limiting Ovechkin's ice time.

As Scotty Bowman has demonstrated many times its a coach's #1 weapon to make players fall in line.

Washington did not lose because of Hunter. They lost because the Rangers are better.

Conn Smythe Trophy Scoreboard

Richards 1
Ovechkin 0


True man ... The only players in Caps to allow silly turnovers are Ovi, Semin and Nicky. That's some kind of an irony i guess. That 2-0 goal was so much of a fault by these guys themselves.
Drone is a way of living
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 13 2012 12:20 GMT
#1891
Yeah, Hunter is going nowhere.

Not to mention, all the silly penalties Semin takes.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 13:13:52
May 13 2012 13:12 GMT
#1892
Hunter's contract with the Capitals ends now.
He might just go back to London. He has a great situation in London if he wants to go back to it.
Basically, he was head coach and god there.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
May 13 2012 18:45 GMT
#1893
Well I think Im going to cheer for the Kings, simply because if they win the Cup the Canucks will have lost to the Cup winner 3 years in a row. Im really not looking forward to either of these series though. Sad day for hockey when this garbage defensive hockey takes over again. Hopefully the refs go back to actually calling obstruction and all this dirty play that has been wrecking the game the last few years.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 13 2012 20:17 GMT
#1894
Flik that doesn't change anything, lmao.

Just a coincidence.

I'm a little torn as to who I want to win. I have a place in Phoenix yet I'm a big fan of several players on the Kings roster. Hoping it goes the distance just like the Rangers versus the Devils. If Zach and Marty manage to make the finals. Dandy!

If Lundqvist manages to make it to the finals. Groovy.

I'll be cheering every goal! :D
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 21:57:20
May 13 2012 21:54 GMT
#1895
On May 14 2012 03:45 Flik wrote:
Well I think Im going to cheer for the Kings, simply because if they win the Cup the Canucks will have lost to the Cup winner 3 years in a row. Im really not looking forward to either of these series though. Sad day for hockey when this garbage defensive hockey takes over again. Hopefully the refs go back to actually calling obstruction and all this dirty play that has been wrecking the game the last few years.


even if that is the case.. Chicago and LA thoroughly defeated the Canucks.
and that Boston series was the most one sided 7 game series you'll ever see.

the goalies are too large for the nets.
the ice is too small for the constantly growing average player size.

try watching a game from 1985. its not even the same game.

watch the world ice hockey championships in finland if you like the old style of NHL hockey. the goalies are still too big for the nets, but at least there is room on the ice for speed and creativity.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
May 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#1896
Thoroughly defeated? Did you even watch the Chicago and LA series? Just because you lose in 5 or 6 doesn't mean you were thoroughly defeated. What does having a bad game 7 have to do with anything? We had a worse game 3/4/6.

Goalies too large? They just reduced the allowable pad size a few years ago. Even when a 6'5 goalie is on his knees you can shoot it over the shoulder.

Growing average player size? More like the players are just faster, stronger and better than they were in the 80s.

What team do you cheer for anyway? You sound like you have the typical Ontario hockey mindset.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 23:43:54
May 13 2012 23:42 GMT
#1897
I'm not a very big NHL fan. But, i like hockey in general.

Chicago chewed em up and spit em out.
LA v. Vancouver was 5 games.

Boston outscored Vancouver 23-8.
Vancouver got devoured
When your team scores 8 goals in 7 games its had the snot kicked out of it.

uhhhh in 1985 Larry Robinson was the ultimate tough guy...
by today's standards he is an average sized defensemen.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
May 13 2012 23:51 GMT
#1898
On May 14 2012 08:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Chicago chewed em up and spit em out.
LA v. Vancouver was 5 games.

Boston outscored Vancouver 23-8.
Vancouver got devoured
When your team scores 8 goals in 7 games its had the snot kicked out of it.


Clearly you have no idea how any of the series were played out. All you can say is "Chicago chewed em up and spit em out". Real knowledgeable. 5 games has nothing to do with anything. Look at the Blackhawks vs Coyotes. Coyotes won in 6 with 5 overtime games, does that mean the Coyotes chewed them up and spit them out.? Vancouver loses in game 7 and we had the snot kicked out of us. K bud. Def from Ontario. Typical Canadian Canucks hater.

Larry Robinson was pretty damn big for the 80s, back then he would be like a Chara. I'll agree that the average player size has gone up, but thats not all of it. I guarantee a player the same height as Robinson now would have a lot more development on and off the ice and would be a lot bigger/stronger/faster because of it.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 00:20:31
May 14 2012 00:17 GMT
#1899
Flik,

I'm going to ignore your debate and strawman's with Jimmy for a moment and address the problem with your logic. It's a common fallacy.

What you are implying is this:

Polt beats Stephano in a bo7.
Polt beats MVP in a bo7.
Stephano probably > than MVP.

Or to simplify... Polt>Stephano>MVP. It's common practice on these forums and it couldn't be further from the truth.

You are trying legitimize the loss when the reality is if they didn't fall to so-and-so, they probably would have fallen to another team on the way.

Lets not deal with what ifs, but absolutes.
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
May 14 2012 00:32 GMT
#1900
I never said the Canucks>anybody. I said if the Kings win the Canucks will have lost to the Cup winner 3 years in a row. In my mind that makes me happy, however irrational it is. There is no problem with my logic because Im not implying anything, Im stating a fact.
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