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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 17 2010 18:06 GMT
#1881
she has a stun and slows!

and TF is so much more than that cause he can go where ever he pleases and has a 200+ damage nuke with silly range, low CD, and coupled with his stun lets you always trigger sheen.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-17 18:44:59
March 17 2010 18:19 GMT
#1882
Yeah but I was mainly listing their DPS skills, not their utility. Twitch has little utility other than his damage output (all he has is a snare that hardly does anything against Treads). I completely disagree with the notion that Ez is "6th best" at ranged DPS. He's definitely the most apm/aim and mana-intensive of the ranged DPS characters... but that's the point.

I think if Ez has sight of you, can maintain sight, and knows he can kill you, there's jack-all you can do about it, and that's pretty scary. But everyone is building him AP like retards.

Edit:
Okay, maybe it works, and is fine, so I was too strong in disdaining it, but it's a waste of what should be one of the best DPS/chasers in the game, IMO.
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
March 17 2010 19:00 GMT
#1883
Just bought Twitch. Any suggestion about runes? I'm quite confused about which items to get though, but mostly I'd like to buy its proper runes first :p
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-17 19:07:35
March 17 2010 19:05 GMT
#1884
Quint Flat HP
Mark Armor Pen/Crit Chance
Seal HP per level/Dodge
Glyph CD/MRegen per level

Would be the way I'd look at it. He's one of the heroes I'd think long and hard about going dodge with, by the way, because his MR is one of the worst in the game, so you may have to weigh the damage reduc from dodging vs how much you'll get owned by nukes (where HP > dodge).

Items I think fast LW into IE is probably the best way to maximize his damage with his relatively slow farming speed. All the frills other than that are up to you and experimentation - swiftterror likes massive DBlades and going Treads, that sort of thing.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-17 21:46:04
March 17 2010 21:45 GMT
#1885
[image loading]

That's my new record >_>
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
March 17 2010 22:24 GMT
#1886
I have a low-level account that I use to play with my friend who's new to the game, I suppose if you guys are on levels 1-15 or so you can add me on that too, it's HONORFACE. Lemme know if you wanna game, I'll usually still be on 5HITCOMBO.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
March 17 2010 23:12 GMT
#1887
In other news, a 5-man TL premade won pre-25:00 this afternoon. I have never seen such bad opposition with the 5man penalty.

--oberon
Alchemyst
Profile Joined August 2009
United States36 Posts
March 18 2010 00:48 GMT
#1888
On March 18 2010 06:45 Southlight wrote:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1460/lolpush.jpg

That's my new record >_>


Lol nice.
Once I pugged, and we chose 5 tanks.
So we all got Fortitude Elixirs and took out a turret at level 1.
Fantasy and Stork Fanboy.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
March 18 2010 00:56 GMT
#1889
Low-level account: PenguinMasher.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
ecnahc
Profile Joined January 2010
United States395 Posts
March 18 2010 01:02 GMT
#1890
On March 18 2010 04:00 iG.ClouD wrote:
Just bought Twitch. Any suggestion about runes? I'm quite confused about which items to get though, but mostly I'd like to buy its proper runes first :p


Flat HP quints, Armor pen, Dodge, Magic resist/lvl or Mana regen/lvl. With Magic resist/lvl, 21/9/0, and Merc Treads I have close to 80 MR @ lvl 11, which is when it matters most because that's when you want to be looking for teamfights. Last Whisper first dps item every time, the attack speed is too good early and no other item comes even relatively close to the dps increase 40% armor pen/40% attack speed/20 damage gives for 2k gold. After that, whatever you want that increases damage, I usually get BC, but IE is fine against a team of ranged. Just don't get Malady, please. If you can have LW/Merc Treads and fill your slots with Doran's Blades at 15-18 minutes you're nigh unkillable with proper positioning. Levithian is also pretty amazing on twitch atm, but I find it hard to let go of the early attack speed from LW.
inside a cloud of resentment and vanity
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
March 18 2010 10:11 GMT
#1891
Thank you very much I use a very similar rune setup on Corki and I'm having a great success with the 4x doran build on Twitch. I wish there were just more tourneys on europe server T.T
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
March 18 2010 14:50 GMT
#1892
Beginning to see why people say Malphite is strong, heh.

I feel so gimped if I don't run Smite on him, though.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 18 2010 15:24 GMT
#1893
I've concluded that quick sheen is bad on new TF. It's good when working towards trinity force later in the game, but I think you're better off going Stark's first, then LW, then worrying about Trinity. I've also concluded that WCs are not worth it early without sheen, just do ewewerewewwwqqqqqrr for skills. I've completely stomped the last two games I've played using this AS and Armor Pen stacking build. Runes I think should be armor pen marks, dodge seals, flat CD or CD/level or MR/level glyphs, and flat HP quints. 21/9/0 masteries (3 crit, 1 AP/level, 4 CD redux, 2 AS, 1 Magic Pen, 3 Armor Pen, 3 damage, 3 crit damage, 1 havok, 3 magic resist, 1 armor, 4 dodge, 1 nimbleness). Flash and Cleanse for summoner skills, though I can see exhaust over cleanse if that's how you roll. Open Boots + 3 HP pots. Farm up to Starks, get Merc Treads next, then LW. Here get Banshee's if needed, otherwise straight to Trinity Force. I've experimented with GRB, and it's a respectable way to build up your damage, but I think LW is better for the mid game and Trinity is worth the extra investment in the end game due to his relatively poor AP scaling now. I am now also operating under the theory that Brutalizer is an excellent choice if you need more damage output for cheap at any point in the game, as this build still has room to gain from the CD reduction.

I've really found that the new red and blue PaCs eliminate the need for WCs when farming. You do plenty fine on standard creep waves with just autoattack, and when you're facing a large built up creep wave, you can go nuts with red cards and then replenish your mana with blue cards on the next wave. Stacked deck triggers on towers, so you will absolutely go to town on towers with the new TF.

Oh and Sword of the Divine is good when the other team has a Jax, but is a huge waste otherwise. Activating it before gold carding Jax guarantees you the stun and then you get extra armor pen with absurd AS to quickly DPS him down. I see a lot of TFs now going it regardless of the other teams comp, but it just isn't worth it... you're much better off making the most of the attacks leading up to every 4th attack.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-18 15:46:20
March 18 2010 15:31 GMT
#1894
I just go the same exact build as Corki/Twitch with the new TF.
DBlade -> LW -> IE.

Is it just me or is Ezreal's ultimate really obnoxious? LOL
I kept seeing my teams get insta-2K'd 3K'd by that damn thing, gawd. So annoying. It's like the ultimate kill-steal skill.
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kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
March 18 2010 16:37 GMT
#1895
On March 19 2010 00:31 Southlight wrote:
I just go the same exact build as Corki/Twitch with the new TF.
DBlade -> LW -> IE.

Is it just me or is Ezreal's ultimate really obnoxious? LOL
I kept seeing my teams get insta-2K'd 3K'd by that damn thing, gawd. So annoying. It's like the ultimate kill-steal skill.

then what is karthus?
8==========))
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
March 18 2010 16:43 GMT
#1896
You can see it coming -> can use a Fortitude Elixir or set up a heal chain.
Last night my friend on Alist was tower-diving to kill someone (second bot tower), so I ran toward him with Taric to heal him, and boom, Ez ult from fountain for double-kill. It was a big LOL! moment.
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ecnahc
Profile Joined January 2010
United States395 Posts
March 18 2010 16:45 GMT
#1897
The new hero feels like a gimped Nidalee to me, ranged, good utility, high mobility, decent dps. I don't know though, need more good people to play him and find out.
inside a cloud of resentment and vanity
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
March 18 2010 16:47 GMT
#1898
Nidalee's melee DPS though, for all intents and purposes.
I like Ez, as he really shines in combo teams. Like he syncs absolutely perfectly with Malphite.
Malph Ult > GS, and Ez uses his de-buff as Malph ults and GS = double attack-speed debuff. And an Ez + Stunner combo is extremely nasty in laning.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 18 2010 18:54 GMT
#1899
personally I'm a fan of the "Picking TF" and "Doing Whatever the Fuck I Want" combo recently. It's like those two were made for each other ^_^.

I'd feel bad about tier whoring, but there's only so much Pantheon I can take before I'd like to stun my opponent for 2 seconds every 4 seconds, while I attack him twice a second through all his armor for over 100 + a bonus 180 every 4 attacks. All this after teleporting behind him from the other side of the map like a huge opportunistic whore because he had the audacity to try to engage in an even team fight vs. a team with TF on it.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
March 18 2010 18:58 GMT
#1900
Don't feel bad about tier whoring - those tier lists are pretty accurate depictions of relative hero strength :p

For instance, see: above picture of my team running Alist Taric Nidalee Sivir Shaco.

Then two games later we ran Alist Taric Soraka TF Sivir.

Tier whoring for the win!
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