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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
August 24 2010 03:31 GMT
#14081
Ugh, the servers are lagging like hell for me now...
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goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
August 24 2010 03:32 GMT
#14082
is the server working for you guys? mine is just really bugged right now
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
August 24 2010 03:34 GMT
#14083
server is not, probably gonna go down for awhile
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 24 2010 03:35 GMT
#14084
On August 24 2010 12:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Maybe you, too, can be the #1 CHOGATH.


There can only be one...
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 24 2010 03:36 GMT
#14085
Right now I have 3 rune pages:

CHO (Caster):
mpen marks, mp5/lv seals/glyphs, movespeed quints

DERPS (dps/garen):
armor pen marks, dodge seals, MR/lv glyphs, flat hp quints

JUNGLE (junglers):
attackspeed marks, dodge seals, cdr/lv glyphs, flat hp quints

This is a really simple and diverse rune setup. The most expensive things are the sets of dodge seals, flat hp quints, and the third rune page. Before I had a separate jungle page i just ran with my dps page, subbing out MR for cdr/lv.

You don't really need too much IP to get a level 1 page anyway, and that should hold you for a bit. The game is so much better with tier 3 runes though.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
August 24 2010 03:36 GMT
#14086
woooow. i entered a solo queue because the server was lagging like hell, and right when i get into a game, chat reconnected. turns out two of my friends did the same thing. LOL
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
August 24 2010 03:41 GMT
#14087
On August 24 2010 12:28 Scamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 12:20 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Haha, the question is, what movespeed did u have? I hope it was the 5 out of combat lol.


Well, when uniques overlap you get the best one. So I assume his movespeed increase was 5 outside of combat and 3 while in it.


Sweet!

I'm buying 2 boots every game now.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
August 24 2010 03:42 GMT
#14088
Is the server giving you guys 5000 ms pings too?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 03:47:25
August 24 2010 03:46 GMT
#14089
On August 24 2010 12:23 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 11:58 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 24 2010 11:53 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 24 2010 10:15 red_ wrote:
On August 24 2010 10:09 redtooth wrote:
On August 24 2010 10:08 phyvo wrote:
I'm just not finding LoL that fun anymore. It's only fun when I play with people I know IRL (translation: when my brother plays with me). Even then I don't feel like a great player. I don't like the F2P system and grinding. I dislike dealing with allegations of noobishness and e-peen strutting.

I tried playing ARAM for more lulz as people would have it, but ARAM isn't fun because 80% of the time one team or the other is completely screwed over by team comp and/or leavers.

I also suck at last hitting with Nidalee and sucking sucks.

I wonder if without the F2P system and the grind LoL would be gathering dust on my hard drive just like TF2 is.
holy fuck. this guy knows me way too fucking well.


Ya you are pretty fucking bad...

Also I really think the 'grind' gets at me more than anything else in this game. All the other shit I might complain about is present in pretty much any multiplayer game(balance issues, people you don't like for whatever reason, other shit I'm just not thinking of right now). I would enjoy LoL a lot more(especially with my champion ADD where I can't pick a main) if I could just like, play the champs, rune how I wanted, without grinding either 1000 games or throwing down 100 bones.

If HoN and LoL switched payment plans(obviously completely impossible this long into the game's retail life, I don't have that unrealistic expectation) I'd probably be having a much better time playing it.


I feel like in one year, I KNOW I won't still be playing this game, because runes just add too much farming. At some point my desire to learn is going to be blocked by the fact I won't have enough grind stored up and it's going to be crazy frustrating.

tf2 is actually a perfect example of the same thing. At some point I got bored with the game, uninstalled it because pubs were making me rage and comp play was awful, and jumped ship to quake live. I've considered messing around in it again, but I won't have access to any of the new shit without tedious grinding so there's no point.

Unfortunately this game includes a great deal of ''virtual skill' - the skill your character has rather than you. The reason the whole model seems punishing to somebody with a competitive streak is because the way we think of it, you gain access to the full powers of an item by being good with it. For example, in quake, the plasma gun might as well not exist unless you have enormous skill with it. Imagine if somebody told you you had to 'craft' a plasma gun in quake to use it. It would be redundant, hence, annoying.

I'm not saying there isn't player skill in LoL, btw, just that it's squeezed by the grind model which is based around virtual skill.

And that's exactly what you get for not paying anything for the game. Either shell out the $30 to get the heroes (and by the time you're 30, you'll have 3 rune books full of runes because you don't need to spend IP on anything else) or grind it and not pay one red cent.

This F2P model is awesome, grinders like me who have been desensitized by WoW and other games can play a fun, engaging game even though we're broke college students who can't afford most mainstream titles, while letting casuals willing to pay for the game play on the same level as us.


Actually it's 40 to buy all of them, but if I were going to drop money on the whole thing, I'd just buy hon which is more full featured and stable. Or more realistically, wait for valve dota.


er actually my math is totally wrong.

RP cost of buying all champs

26390

You can buy IP in lots of 650 for five dollars (haven't checked larger bundles).

26390 / 650 = 40 (rounded down) lots of five dollars each, or two hundred bucks to follow your suggestion. Nice plan there!
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
August 24 2010 04:02 GMT
#14090
does anyone know lil ballz jungle olaf build? Im a big fan of his Udyr set up after using it
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
August 24 2010 04:30 GMT
#14091
On August 24 2010 12:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2010 12:23 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 24 2010 11:58 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 24 2010 11:53 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 24 2010 10:15 red_ wrote:
On August 24 2010 10:09 redtooth wrote:
On August 24 2010 10:08 phyvo wrote:
I'm just not finding LoL that fun anymore. It's only fun when I play with people I know IRL (translation: when my brother plays with me). Even then I don't feel like a great player. I don't like the F2P system and grinding. I dislike dealing with allegations of noobishness and e-peen strutting.

I tried playing ARAM for more lulz as people would have it, but ARAM isn't fun because 80% of the time one team or the other is completely screwed over by team comp and/or leavers.

I also suck at last hitting with Nidalee and sucking sucks.

I wonder if without the F2P system and the grind LoL would be gathering dust on my hard drive just like TF2 is.
holy fuck. this guy knows me way too fucking well.


Ya you are pretty fucking bad...

Also I really think the 'grind' gets at me more than anything else in this game. All the other shit I might complain about is present in pretty much any multiplayer game(balance issues, people you don't like for whatever reason, other shit I'm just not thinking of right now). I would enjoy LoL a lot more(especially with my champion ADD where I can't pick a main) if I could just like, play the champs, rune how I wanted, without grinding either 1000 games or throwing down 100 bones.

If HoN and LoL switched payment plans(obviously completely impossible this long into the game's retail life, I don't have that unrealistic expectation) I'd probably be having a much better time playing it.


I feel like in one year, I KNOW I won't still be playing this game, because runes just add too much farming. At some point my desire to learn is going to be blocked by the fact I won't have enough grind stored up and it's going to be crazy frustrating.

tf2 is actually a perfect example of the same thing. At some point I got bored with the game, uninstalled it because pubs were making me rage and comp play was awful, and jumped ship to quake live. I've considered messing around in it again, but I won't have access to any of the new shit without tedious grinding so there's no point.

Unfortunately this game includes a great deal of ''virtual skill' - the skill your character has rather than you. The reason the whole model seems punishing to somebody with a competitive streak is because the way we think of it, you gain access to the full powers of an item by being good with it. For example, in quake, the plasma gun might as well not exist unless you have enormous skill with it. Imagine if somebody told you you had to 'craft' a plasma gun in quake to use it. It would be redundant, hence, annoying.

I'm not saying there isn't player skill in LoL, btw, just that it's squeezed by the grind model which is based around virtual skill.

And that's exactly what you get for not paying anything for the game. Either shell out the $30 to get the heroes (and by the time you're 30, you'll have 3 rune books full of runes because you don't need to spend IP on anything else) or grind it and not pay one red cent.

This F2P model is awesome, grinders like me who have been desensitized by WoW and other games can play a fun, engaging game even though we're broke college students who can't afford most mainstream titles, while letting casuals willing to pay for the game play on the same level as us.


Actually it's 40 to buy all of them, but if I were going to drop money on the whole thing, I'd just buy hon which is more full featured and stable. Or more realistically, wait for valve dota.


er actually my math is totally wrong.

RP cost of buying all champs

26390

You can buy IP in lots of 650 for five dollars (haven't checked larger bundles).

26390 / 650 = 40 (rounded down) lots of five dollars each, or two hundred bucks to follow your suggestion. Nice plan there!
... He didn't mean buy every champ he meant either:

- Get $35 in RP = 5,000 RP
- Get 1st bundle
- Get the free $10 in RP from 1st bundle
- Have over 2,500RP left over
- Buy more champs with RP
- Have around 30 champs
- Use IP for Runes

OR

- Get $35 in RP = 5,000 RP
- Get 1st bundle
- Get the free $10 in RP from 1st bundle
- Have over 2,500RP left over
- Buy $10 more in RP
- Buy other Champion bundle
- Have 40 champs unlocked
- Use IP for runes

OR

- Get $35 in RP = 5,000 RP
- Buy some random champs
- Use IP for runes

LoL Isn't meant for you to own every single thing in the game unless you drop something like $170 in RP (buying only $35 bundles)... so Don't. Do what normal people do, buy a champ bundle + 2 - 3 champs you like playing and use those 30ish champs.. you don't need at 57 champs and you wont be playing most champions anyway...

Pick like 5 - 10 champs you like, unlock them with RP (bundle + buy stragglers will get u the most bang for your buck) then get runes...

With like 20k IP you can unlock all the runes you will need for 99% of champs (APen, MPen, armor/lvl, mr/lvl, CDR, MP5/lvl, HP Quints) and then you can go back to buying champs...

I mean im only like 500 games into LoL and i have 30 champs, all the runes I need and am now just farming IP for champs I like and using my extra RP on skins...

Do I want Galio or Vlad? No... saves me 12,600IP
Do I want Xin or Akali? No... saves me 6,300IP
Do I want Twitch or EZ? No... Saves me another 12,600IP

See what I did there? Picked champs I tried in free weeks that I didn't like and didn't buy them... Easy as that.
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 04:41:34
August 24 2010 04:37 GMT
#14092
GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL.

In reality I own champs Ive NEVER played, and I have all but 5-6 champs.. most of the champs I own go under used
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 24 2010 04:46 GMT
#14093
its nice to just own the champs at least for me at this point i just want to play whatever sounds fun and that changes alot. I wish i owned vladimir and kennen though, don't really know why i own akali or blitzcrank lol
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 24 2010 04:48 GMT
#14094
Been watching the new champ spotlight. Looks like he's another case of "Garen Syndrome". OP as fuck early game, settles into a valuable support role later (high dps tank). I don't see how his first ability is blanced with such a low CD at lvl 1...but we'll see I guess.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 24 2010 04:56 GMT
#14095
AP WARWICK

SCREENSHOTS COMING SOON
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 24 2010 05:04 GMT
#14096
warwick definitely needs some nerfs next patch. i will start banning WW + amumu everygame from now on and picking shaco if its miss banned x(
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 24 2010 05:04 GMT
#14097
On August 24 2010 13:46 mrgerry wrote:
its nice to just own the champs at least for me at this point i just want to play whatever sounds fun and that changes alot. I wish i owned vladimir and kennen though, don't really know why i own akali or blitzcrank lol


Quoting you because of him because that's kind of my current mindset, my favorite champ changes like every other day, maybe every other game depending on who I'm playing with.

LoL's competition right now is a game where you can play all champs from day 1 regardless of whether you want to or not. People are going to compare LoL to similar games, and it's pricing plan just doesn't measure up favorably if you are willing to spend money(I've said many many times now that I would drop 40-60 on LoL if it got me content for life sans skins and extra shit like that).

It is obviously impossible for them to implement this now with so many people already 300+ dollars deep into Riot's bank.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
August 24 2010 05:24 GMT
#14098
On August 24 2010 14:04 NB wrote:
warwick definitely needs some nerfs next patch. i will start banning WW + amumu everygame from now on and picking shaco if its miss banned x(


Warwick is only 'good' again because everyone stopped taking cleanse. It's so silly how WW is so tied to one summoner spell that the other team may or may not have.

Amumu to a lesser degree is the same way. Was usually a solid pick, but only became really 'good' when people stopped taking cleanse.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 24 2010 05:55 GMT
#14099
errr, you don't really know what you're talking about.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
August 24 2010 06:04 GMT
#14100
My ult should be the least of ur worries :p
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