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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Gonzaw, I don't need that part of the manual, I don't think. I've been observing the data from my tests, and the data is all coming in lower than I think it should. I thought maybe the manual could help me figure out why my I'm not seeing the numbers that I thought I might. DI, I have no idea what that means really, but okay! | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
On February 16 2013 07:08 austinmcc wrote: This game has gotten delightfully fun/confusing as far as roles go. Huzzah. Gonzaw, I don't need that part of the manual, I don't think. I've been observing the data from my tests, and the data is all coming in lower than I think it should. I thought maybe the manual could help me figure out why my I'm not seeing the numbers that I thought I might. DI, I have no idea what that means really, but okay! Feel free to answer this right before the deadline if you don't want to give out reads now (same goes for marv who i just asked as well), but I have to ask this now while I'm still around. Do you still think iamp is scum? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On February 16 2013 07:03 Crossfire99 wrote: Marv, does the fact that Hassy is being replaced change your read on him? His eternal absence does soften my inclination to declare him of evil intent. Truly, it reminds me of a previous establishment called 'LVIII' where I believed Adam to have evil intentions, but he had in fact fainted and had to be taken away by the ambulance. I will remain wary of he who replaces Hassybaby; I still find the discourse that the man known as Hassybaby put forth to be somewhat false. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:48 Dandel Ion wrote: I will deliver what needs to be delivered in style. I hope it's this kind of style: ![[image loading]](http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/160669/160669,1307547180,2/stock-photo-smiling-gentleman-wearing-a-cylinder-hat-78951385.jpg){kind=logo} | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Dandel Ion
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:53 Dandel Ion wrote: You may or may not be disappointed in the style. If it's style that involves me dying, then yes, I may be disappointed. If it involves scum dying, though, it would be acceptable no matter how the look suits my tastes. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:55 Keirathi wrote: If it's style that involves me dying, then yes, I may be disappointed. If it involves scum dying, though, it would be acceptable no matter how the look suits my tastes. It sadly involves no dying at all. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I'm doing my best to resist my normal play this game and so I'm putting aside 3P for now. We have 4 scum in this game and maybe some 3P. Topping my scumreads are kitaman and iamperfection. Here's the dealio. I thought iamperfection was scummy D1. Is he contributing much to the thread? No, certainly not as much as I would expect from someone with his number of posts. Why not? Well, lots of one-liners, lots of questions that he doesn't follow up on. Scummy. Have I seen this before? Yes. From scum iamp in GSL 2. Does that mean he's 100% scum this game? No. That's stupid. But meta? No. We should shutup about meta, where "meta" = he is more in-your-face as x than y. That's not a particularly difficult thing to fake, at least for a little bit. He has had opportunities to push discussion forward this game, and instead has taken the opportunity to shut it down. He has asked questions, but not followed up in a way that makes it look like he cares about the answers. Instead of trying to figure out what kurumi was saying at times, he just shat on kurumi's posts and people who post cryptically. Those things are scummy. People who do scummy things are probably scum. Ta da. kitaman is different. It's less about what he's done and more about what he's NOT done. Look at his start to this game. "I am kitaman the mighty, the towniest townie ever. I will drive discussion, I will push the game FORWARD (stop talking about instant lynch, it's over, let's move on)." Since then...nada. I expect more from kita, and the very fact that he STARTED the game so townie shows that he can play a friggin townie game. But his followup shows that he wanted to START townie, to look townie, and tells me that he's not. Specific things that I'm picking up on are his pushes/reads D1. On February 14 2013 21:20 kitaman27 wrote: The thing about stutters is that he even acknowledges the harm of a lurker, yet 36 hours into the game has yet to make a real post -_- I'll try to check in during lunch to make my decision for today's lunch. Wish more people would actually start posting so we would have something to actually go by. Stutters is a lurker. This post comes 12 hours after kia's last post. 13 hours after kita's last substantive post, where he chides town about pooping up thread and asks some questions. But kita's return is full of nothing. He notes that stutters is a lurker. YES! Good job team! We all know that, it's been pointed out. For someone who doesn't want one-liners and a clogged thread, he's returning to quote a post more than 11 hours old and do nothing with it. That is scummy to me. He has no new info, no followup to his questions, he just pokes at a lurker. And then? On February 15 2013 03:00 kitaman27 wrote: Right now, my gut read tells me that Sylencia is a newbie lurker. There really isn't much to go by with him, but so far Sylencia has only responded to people who have placed a vote on him, indicating that his prime concern is survival. He hasn't made any posts that show he cares about town or hasn't come up with any sort of plan that could benefit us. Even his comment about the PYP is a one liner that doesn't show very strong resolve. He also shows a lack of confidence or aggressiveness, which is generally a mafia trait. Even if he is overwhelmed by the setup, there are still plenty of player interactions to comment on. When I asked him if he had any suspicions, he said no and promised to catch up, but never did so. If this was his first game, maybe I'd understand, but looking through his old games, he has like 4-5 under his belt. By now he should be able to know what kind of things to look for and comment without being prompted. For now, I'll keep my vote on Sylencia. Unfortunately, I have to head out yet. Hopefully by the time I get home I'll have time to look at the rest of the candidates. We're now MUCH further into the game. Kita returns with a read (good). Kita's read is on sylencia (eh). It's a substantive post, but it's so restricted. It talks ONLY about why he thinks this one lurker, who his vote was already on, is scummy. He admits "there really isn't much to go by with him." But kita has spun that not very much info into his only decent post in a while. He still hasn't followed up questions, looked elsewhere, commented on anything else. At this point, kita, who was policing the thread so hard early and being a great townie, is not interacting with thread. He went from participating, getting a feel for the thread and guiding it forward, to chiming in with thoughts on sylencia and commenting on nothing else. But yet, he's kind of...missing stuff about the guy he's focused on. I saw that, and asked him: On February 15 2013 08:45 kitaman27 wrote: I didn't really come to any conclusions from it, other than the fact that sylencia found it important to respond to a player that was voting for him. Did you get something out of the exchange? On February 15 2013 08:53 kitaman27 wrote: I only noticed the Barrack Obama claim. I didn't catch kurumi's later post about the alignment confirming, though I'm still not quite sure I understand what he's saying. Swapping to oats as he is my secondary preference and I want a lynch this cycle. Effectively, in sylencia's small filter, Kita missed all of this: On February 14 2013 15:01 Sylencia wrote: Kurumi, since you're voting for me right now, can I ask you to let me perhaps share with you the fact I'm innocent tonight? On February 15 2013 00:00 Sylencia wrote: But you realise you have nothing to lose by passing through the night. If I wanted to kill you, it'd be out there in the open wouldn't it? On February 15 2013 00:01 Sylencia wrote: well actually, I take that back I'd do it the more traditional way but still, it's a gamble I think you should take. Not buying it. kita either missed that or didn't really read through sylencia. If he MISSED it, when I brought it up, I would expect him to have comments. Substantive comments. This is a THING that sylencia has done, right now, he's "that lurky dude who might be scum and has something to do with kurumi." That is "sylencia" in the dictionary. But kita "didn't really come to any conclusions from it." When I brought it up, he says he missed it and doesn't follow up. That tells me this read is fake. It tells me we have scumkita, because he didn't really read over sylencia or doesn't really care about sylencia's posts. He's a good player. He's a "vet" afaik. He started out SO townie. But look at the follow-up. There isn't any. He's not interacting with thread. His only substantive post/case is on a lurker without much to go on, yet he misses the defining thing that lurker has done. If he's busy/at work, not a problem. But he HAS some posts. They just stopped doing anything. The well of townieness ran dry, and now he's coasting and doing nothing, which absolutely does not match up with active, thread police kita at the start. Look at how well he's ducked ANY talk about himself. I'm guessing most people have him as town because of his early posts, but then he hasn't been around actively, so they're not updating the read. But the not being around ITSELF is important here given his early play, and given his more recent posts. kita so scummy. Plox to lynch or shoot or something? Who else might be scum? Gonzaw could be. This is much more like his recent scum game than his town games, not just because he's not spammy but because he's poking his head up when being talked to, not adding much in the way of new thoughts to the thread (besides a read on keirathi), and then disappearing again. I do not like this. He also made my role, which contains some hidden information that I am not given access to. I asked for his read on me because I figured if he was strongly townie on me, he might tell me that info. But he didn't, which is confusing me right now. In light of the rest of his play, I'm currently leaning scum on him. Those would be my main reads for the moment, I guess. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Mildly townie on stutters, given his response to my questioning yesterday. Need to see more, because that post could have been crafted relatively easily, given the amount of time between question/answer, and how iamperfection's filter can really only leave you with one impression at that point - not a lot said, one-liners, questions, etc. worried about randombum. He's been on the periphery of things. I don't get strong feelings from him any way, and 30 minutes after reading his filter, I realize I dont' remember much about it. Randombum in PU was interactive, doing stuff, and there were things I remember (even if I remember dumb stuff like him calling out Palmar for calling him a bitch, the filter was MEMORABLE). I don't like that a picture of his posts/filter doesn't stick with me after I read it. townie on kurumi. Mainly because of that single post where he notes the timing of sylencia's reading a couple pages, digesting cases, and picking a favorite. I get less of a read from sylencia making those posts because maybe he's just lazy/not actually reading as hard as we'd want him to/whatever, so I'm not 100% convinced sylencia is just flat-out lying. But the fact that kurumi picked up on that is a BIG townie point for him in my mind. I'm not experienced with scum yet, but post timings isn't something I'd look for to attack people on. I'm just not gonna notice things like that and bring it to the thread's attention, imo. So, pretty much just off that one post, I'm townie on kurumi. relatively townie on marv, actually. Out of all the people piling on lurkers yesterday, he had some actual reasons for voting lurkers. Marv can make up reasons if he needs to, but he didn't need to in that scenario, because everyone was just pooping on lurkers in general. Marv chose a specific lurker, for a reason, and pushed that guy. I like that a lot more than him just shotgunning at sylencia/cheesecake/hassy, and although I disagree with his assessment of hassy's posts this game as doing something and then disappearing, I can see where he's coming from. I also fully support stupid posting, staying in character, whatever, and I don't give two craps whether he puts effort into the game or not. It would be better if he did (so long as he's town), but On January 09 2012 15:49 Incognito wrote: What is Mafia? To put very simply, Mafia is a game of lying. marv carried my ass, and some other asses, a little while ago. I don't care if he wants to take one off and enjoy it. It's a game. Our job to solve it with or without his help. Anyway, I'm not scummy on him at the moment, when there are other scum suspects. jcarlsoniv is whatever he is. His claim timing is wonky, but not in a way that has me sure of any alignment. most of the rest of the players I don't have a particularly strong read on, or don't have any special thoughts about that you shouldn't. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
Day 2 ELECTION MAFIA During the night, the following players met their untimely demise: Keirathi + Show Spoiler + Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Johnny Magic. You don't care that this is a game of mafia, you're bringing MtG into it. As such, you start with two mana. At the beginning of each day phase you gain one mana. During the night phase you may tap three lands to reveal any one person's alignment (only once) After you have used your alignment check the check will become a Role PM check. Each lynch also adds counters (separate from mana) onto Lightning Bolt. A successful mafia lynch counts for three counters, while a mislynch counts for one. At five charges you may cast lightning bolt for 1kp on any target during any phase. Lightning Bolt can only be used once. You win with the Town! randombum + Show Spoiler + Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Clingy Girlfriend! Choose a player on Night 1. You will be bonded to this player. Anything that happens to him will happen to you, and vice versa. Any ability he has, you have too. You may choose your own target(s) for this ability, if applicable. You win with the Town! Kurumi + Show Spoiler + Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are The Information Gambler! -- Every night, select another player. Both players are informed of their opponent and PM the mod with one of three options: "Share Information", "Pass", or "Kill Opponent". - If both players select the same option, nothing happens. - If one player picks "Share Information" and the other picks "Pass", the player picking "Pass" gets privately informed of the other player's alignment. - If one player picks "Share Information" and the other picks "Kill Opponent", the player picking "Kill Opponent" will kill the other player, but the kill announcement will reveal the killer. - If one player picks "Pass" and the other picks "Kill Opponent", the player picking "Kill Opponent" will kill the other player, but there will be no reveal regarding the killer. You win with the Town! ---Kitaman24 has won Kurumi's wager--- Austinmcc + Show Spoiler + Welcome to Themed Game Mafia, you are the Calculator! You somehow escaped from the Final Fantasy Tactics world, and appeared in this desolate land. You must do anything in your power to survive....and kill those in your way. You can use JP (Job Points) to buy abilities and use them. You start with 500 JP, and can buy any ability at any time by PMing the host "##Buy: [name of ability]", as long as you have enough JP to do so Your ability works like this though: There are several "Action Abilities", that perform actions on certain targets. However, the way you decide who to target is special. You can't target players directly; instead, you choose an algorithm that determines the targets of your ability. There are 2 algorithms you must choose to do so: "Base" algorithms and "Targeting" algorithms. Base algorithms: It's an attribute about each player that will be taken into account when targeting. It should be numerical. Targeting algorithms: Determines which of those attributes will determine your target, using arithmetics. If the targeting algorithm of your choice is "5", then this means that you will target every player in the game whose numerical attribute (Base algorithm) is a multiple of 5. Same if you choose "3" or "4" or "Prime". You can use only 1 action ability each night. To use so, you must PM the host: ##[Base algorithm]-[Targetting algorithm]: [Action ability] For example: "##Postcount-Prime: Cure", which will cure every player whose postcount is a prime number. You can also buy Support Abilities. These abilities are passive and are applied to you as soon as you buy them. You can also gain JP by doing special things throughout the game. There are also "special" ways you can gain JP, which won't be disclosed, so try to do crazy things and see if you can gain more JP! Once you fulfilled a way to gain JP, the host will report to you how much you won and how at the end of the cycle you've done so. If you find out these "special" ways to get JP, you can get Bonus JP depending on how many different ways you have found. You can gain JP in these ways: + Show Spoiler [Gain JP] + Living: You gain JP by each cycle you are still alive Gain: 100 JP Early Lynch Vote: You gain JP if you are between the first 5 voters (unvoting resets the voting queue) of a lynch Gain: 150 JP Focus: You gain JP if you manage to use an ability on a single player Gain: 100 JP Mass-targetting: You gain JP if you manage to use an ability on EVERYBODY Gain: 300 JP Nice post restriction!: You gain JP if you manage to include a math related term or phrase in at least 10 posts in a cycle Can only be used once, and can only be used before claiming Gain: 50 JP Bonus JP: + Show Spoiler [Bonus JP] + JP Bonus: You gain bonus JP as you do more of these "hidden" ways to obtain JP It is accumulative Do 3 of them: 50 JP Do 4 of them: 100 JP Do 5 of then: 200 JP Do 6 of them: 300 JP Do ALL of them: 500 JP Here follows what Arithmetic abilities you can get: Targeting Algorithms: + Show Spoiler [Targeting Algorithms] + Prime: An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a prime number Cost: 300 JP 5: An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a multiple of 5 Cost: 200 JP 4: An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a multiple of 4 Cost: 400 JP 3: An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a multiple of 3 Cost: 600 JP Base Algorithms: + Show Spoiler [Base Algorithms] + Visits: Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's number of visitors (i.e how many people visit him) that night. Cost: 150 JP Post Count: Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's Post Count Applies to the previous Day cycle Cost: 250 JP Post time average: Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's post time average Applies to the previous Day cycle. It takes the average of the posting time of a player, and takes the hour from it Cost: 300 JP Voting: Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's number of votes (he has done) this game. Unvoting and voting the same player counts as a new vote, as does unvoting and voting a new player. Cost: 400 JP Username length: Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's username length Cost: 700 JP These are the Support abilities you can get: + Show Spoiler [Support Abilities] + Doublecast: Allows you to perform 2 action abilities on each night Cost: 1500 JP Day Calculator: Allows you to perform an action ability in each day cycle as well as at a night cycle Every action ability will change accordingly if it's used in a Day cycle Cost: 1000 JP Gained JP up: Gains 50% more JP for each action that nets you JP Cost: 500 JP These are the Action Abilities you can get: + Show Spoiler [Action Abilities] + Cure: Cures target for 0.5 HP If a target is cured for 1 HP, then it needs 1 more KP to be killed Cost: 400 JP Flare: Desl 0.5 KP to target Cost: 900 JP Poison: Gives target 1 poison counter every phase. Deals 0.5 KP to him after 3 counters have expired. Target will be notified about being poisoned. The counter will expire in the exact cycle it was cast 3 phases from now Cost: 150 JP Paralyze: Prevents target from doing any action that night (i.e Roleblock) Cost: 100 JP Slow: The target will be slowed, therefore any night action he does this cycle will resolve in the next one Cost: 150 JP Reflect: Actions done on the target (that same night) will be done on the actor instead Cost: 500 JP Persuade: Target has 1 more vote in the next Day cycle Cost: 200 JP Protect: Protects the target from 1 KP Cost: 800 JP You win with the Town! Hassybaby has been replaced by Vivax. The election has begun! The winner will become the Commander-in-Chief, while the runner up will become the Military Advisor. This is your chance to win an election role! You are the Commander-in-Chief! Upon election, you will be given the opportunity to enact one of two possible campaigns for the following cycle. One of these will be provided by the military advisor. Only the details of the chosen campaign will be revealed. You may select to enact neither campaign. You are the Military Advisor. You've been selected to overview two possible campaigns and may submit one of them to the Commander-in-Chief to review. Since Instant Majority was selected yesterday, the first player to reach 6 votes will be set to be lynched. However, the day will continue for the full 48 hours. The lynch votes CANNOT be changed once the majority is reached. The elected official votes CAN be changed until the deadline. Please place all votes in the Voting Thread. With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch! The Day will end in 48 hours, on Sunday, Feb 17 7:00pm EST (GMT-05:00) Announcements: Gonzaw is totally scum. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
LET THE GAME CONTINUE!!! This is totally not as cool as Aperture flips... | ||
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iamperfection
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