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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 03 2013 08:48 Seuss wrote: Guys, Nami jungle is real and not in any way reliant on a hilarious bug. Don't even need Nami to jungle. Can just use her to set up camps for a ranged jungler to clear. Jungle Karthus with Nami support OP. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Simberto
Germany12028 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:12 TheYango wrote: Don't even need Nami to jungle. Can just use her to set up camps for a ranged jungler to clear. Jungle Karthus with Nami support OP. Does that work on drake too? Probably not because its immune to cc. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
If your spells are free you don't need the mana regen which makes the item not a whole lot different in appeal than wota, and a lot less appealing than just leaving your revolver unupgraded. so, that's how I think of it. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:10 HazMat wrote: fyi it's unlisted. So only those with the link can see it. Btw that's pretty funny. It's unlisted intentionally. I only wanted to share it with you guys so that it would only fall into the wrong hands (i.e. MoonBear's). I find the idea of Nami running through the jungle glitching the camps for a ranged jungler hilarious. FYI it doesn't work on ranged creeps, including dragon and baron. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:22 Simberto wrote: Does that work on drake too? Probably not because its immune to cc. It's also ranged. Note that the small lizards didn't bug out. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23447 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:12 TheYango wrote: Don't even need Nami to jungle. Can just use her to set up camps for a ranged jungler to clear. Jungle Karthus with Nami support OP. came for the nami bug stayed for the warcraft 2 human theme | ||
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ketchup
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23447 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:24 UniversalSnip wrote: Only reason you would really buy a revolver on a laner is because you intend to abuse it horribly by constantly spamming free ranged spells. If your spells are free you don't need the mana regen which makes the item not a whole lot different in appeal than wota, and a lot less appealing than just leaving your revolver unupgraded. so, that's how I think of it. Well, 10% CDR could be helpful. Wasn't really looking at the mp5 to be honest On February 03 2013 09:21 AsnSensation wrote: WTF? I was Plat IV yesterday got promoted today and assumed that I was Plat III now but I am Plat II?? how is that possbile You can skip divisions if your MMR is much higher than your currently assigned division. On February 03 2013 09:50 Slayer91 wrote: Why can't you see peoples losses in stats any more? That's dumb as hell. Winrates are way more important than kda ratios lol. You can still infer winrates by adding up champion wins and dividing by total games lol. But winrates really aren't that important either, winning 50% of your games in bronze and 50% of your games in diamond is a big difference | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23447 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:54 Slayer91 wrote: Knowing peoples leagues gives you enough of an idea about elo Right, and once you have a good idea of somone's elo, their wins/losses doesn't really tell you too much more useful information. I can see an argument about "someone at 1500 elo after 50 games has a much different skill profile than someone at 1500 elo after 1000 games" but you don't really need #losses to infer this | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:45 ketchup wrote: Has anyone looked into kennen since the no-cost ult change? Specifically building tanky with either warmogs or randuins playing top lane. I'm not too sure if energy runes are needed any longer due to cost removal from his ult. He will still be a bit energy starved, but you are tank enough to take a few more hits. Feels like a messing with the rune set up can do some gimmicky things with him Were energy runes really mandatory? Their very existence always perplexed me. So niche and yet so super expensive. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23447 Posts
I don't know how you can say it doesn't give any useful information because if you're showing KDA that's far more useless because some champs naturally get higher kda but mightn't have a higher winrate, like for example early snowbally champs that tend to lose later anyway cause they suck in teamfights. | ||
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remedium
United States939 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:45 ketchup wrote: Has anyone looked into kennen since the no-cost ult change? Specifically building tanky with either warmogs or randuins playing top lane. I'm not too sure if energy runes are needed any longer due to cost removal from his ult. He will still be a bit energy starved, but you are tank enough to take a few more hits. Feels like a messing with the rune set up can do some gimmicky things with him At first impression (bot game!), he's a lot stronger in teamfights because energy management is almost a non-issue (worst case: 100E, 0R, 45W, 65Q means you need to wait half a second to use your Q). I don't think energy runes are even remotely needed. The new build for Hourglass is basically screaming "Kennen pls," as someone mentioned already. Strongarm Bracers-> Haunting Guise-> Sorcs-> Zhonya's seems like a strong build. I'm not sure Kennen really benefits from building tanky. His damage ramps incredibly with some early MPen and a NLR, and his E + his stun combo give him amazing survivability. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On February 03 2013 05:57 CatharsisUT wrote: Sure, but if the AD is a moron that's going to be true regardless of who is supporting. I have taken a lot of terrible AD's and made laning go even by saving them, convincing them to b when they're about to get killed, etc. That's still going to help win a lot of games, even if it doesn't feel as good as stomping a lane. And then after stomping lane, their teamfight turns out to be absolutely terrible. There's only so much you can do. I can't count the number of times I've come out of lane like 1/2/5 (with a fed AD) or better and ended up like 1/10/10 from pathetically bad teamfight where the AD dives a low hp guy under a turret, or just goes for "a big wave" while we're trying to take dragon. As a support, I really see you fit into one of a few roles for teamfight. You either sit back and peel for your carry, or you're the initator or follow up initator. The latter two tend to result in you dying a lot. Problem with support is its just so hard to "get back into the game". A tanky top or jungle have farm from early on, so they get gold and solo lane xp there. All other roles also have the option to build damage as well, so even when behind you can farm up or something. Supports rarely do, and utility never killed a creep very fast (even that Nami video). Get behind, and all of a sudden you're building a 35 minute Aegis with tier 1 boots. Sure you can land some incredible Sona ult or something, but its so hard to make as much a difference without those CDR/ Aura items and 3 levels under everyone else. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On February 03 2013 10:09 thenexusp wrote: Right, and once you have a good idea of somone's elo, their wins/losses doesn't really tell you too much more useful information. I can see an argument about "someone at 1500 elo after 50 games has a much different skill profile than someone at 1500 elo after 1000 games" but you don't really need #losses to infer this I actually think the two players would be equal in skill and that the one with 50 games would have higher variance and perhaps would also be rising in skill. | ||
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