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Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
February 02 2013 19:54 GMT
#981
I thought the stun into the wall thing was part of the skill like for Vayne condemn, guess I was wrong..
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 20:05:13
February 02 2013 20:03 GMT
#982
Wait..Doesn't any knockback into a wall stun?I have always though it does to compensate them not flying lol.

Also why do I gain 20 points for wins and lose 10?Is it supposed to be like that?I am fp almost always if that matters.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 02 2013 20:08 GMT
#983
Well remember not all knockbacks interact with walls the same in the first place. Headbutt can push targets over thin walls, while Condemn and Heroic Charge explicitly stop the target on them.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 02 2013 20:09 GMT
#984
I just saw on CLG series a renekton knocked up by Baron get pushed over baron wall by Xin ulti. Is this legit or did something break.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 02 2013 20:10 GMT
#985
On February 03 2013 05:09 Numy wrote:
I just saw on CLG series a renekton knocked up by Baron get pushed over baron wall by Xin ulti. Is this legit or did something break.


Well considering xin is known to be a man his spear probably knockbacks even superman so it makes sense.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 02 2013 20:12 GMT
#986
Hmm still abit confused, so if I duo queue with a buddy whos 150-300 elo +- to me, how is LP gain/loss affected?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
February 02 2013 20:15 GMT
#987
OMG guys, I just came back from my first lan, not playing just watching, still was fun. I might write more when I get some more food and/or sleep LOL. Props to Rik for winning the thing with his new team
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 02 2013 20:20 GMT
#988
On February 03 2013 02:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 02:05 obesechicken13 wrote:
That's so counterintuitive I still don't understand it. Do those 5 wins give you 1 elo each?

No?

If you win 13 Elo every game 5 in a row, you're still only 1265 in a league whose bracket is 1450-1550. The system detects that even 5 wins you're nowhere close to getting into the league's normal bracket, and bumps you down.

Not that counterintuitive.

Well then why would you get placed into a 1450-1550 league in the first place if you were 1200 before hand?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 20:33:58
February 02 2013 20:27 GMT
#989
On February 03 2013 05:20 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 02:09 TheYango wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:05 obesechicken13 wrote:
That's so counterintuitive I still don't understand it. Do those 5 wins give you 1 elo each?

No?

If you win 13 Elo every game 5 in a row, you're still only 1265 in a league whose bracket is 1450-1550. The system detects that even 5 wins you're nowhere close to getting into the league's normal bracket, and bumps you down.

Not that counterintuitive.

Well then why would you get placed into a 1450-1550 league in the first place if you were 1200 before hand?


I think the system tried to fill in all the divisions with as close to the max (50 people each) as possible, so some people are in divisions they don't belong in.

Using the average rating of current elo and top elo could be a problem, also. If you got really streaky and got to 1800 top elo while your current elo was 1400, you would've been placed higher than where you should be.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 20:32:43
February 02 2013 20:32 GMT
#990
promotions game are pretty crazy hard, my first one is me plat 5 and another plat (who played champ in ranked for first time) and 3 golds vs diamond and 3 plats and a gold. lmfao?
I come in for the scraps
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 02 2013 20:32 GMT
#991
On February 03 2013 05:20 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 02:09 TheYango wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:05 obesechicken13 wrote:
That's so counterintuitive I still don't understand it. Do those 5 wins give you 1 elo each?

No?

If you win 13 Elo every game 5 in a row, you're still only 1265 in a league whose bracket is 1450-1550. The system detects that even 5 wins you're nowhere close to getting into the league's normal bracket, and bumps you down.

Not that counterintuitive.

Well then why would you get placed into a 1450-1550 league in the first place if you were 1200 before hand?

The scenario doesn't describe a player who started out as 1200, but started in that Elo bracket (possibly thanks to lucky placements or getting there via a lucky streak with accelerated Elo, and then slowly sliding back down. It's possible that he might reach 1200 Elo before direct demotion due to a long loss streak kicks him out immediately (possibly because he's winning games occasionally but losing more than he wins), at which point the system as mentioned kicks in.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 02 2013 20:33 GMT
#992
On February 03 2013 05:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
promotions game are pretty crazy hard, my first one is me plat 5 and another plat (who played champ in ranked for first time) and 3 golds vs diamond and 3 plats and a gold. lmfao?


you gotta work for your bling
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CatharsisUT
Profile Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
February 02 2013 20:40 GMT
#993
On February 03 2013 02:42 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 02:36 barbsq wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:35 zer0das wrote:
Personally I find it amusing that people are like "hey guys, it's my promotion matches, please don't feed" and then go something like 1/10/6 when they're not the support.

1/10/6 isn't really acceptable for support either o.O


Those support players all garbage, always 1/10.


IMO this phenomenon (feeding support players in solo queue) is one of the reasons that it is possible (and recently, for me at least, not that hard) to increase your own ELO by playing support. So many people are absolutely awful and get forced there by their team, if you are actually willing and good at it you provide a HUGE edge to your team. Between that and having the free mental energy to watch the map most of the time, ping, time objectives, ward key spots (even play-making spots like warding their blue shortly before it comes up) I think playing support can certainly raise ELO effectively.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 02 2013 20:41 GMT
#994
On February 03 2013 05:40 CatharsisUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 02:42 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:36 barbsq wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:35 zer0das wrote:
Personally I find it amusing that people are like "hey guys, it's my promotion matches, please don't feed" and then go something like 1/10/6 when they're not the support.

1/10/6 isn't really acceptable for support either o.O


Those support players all garbage, always 1/10.


IMO this phenomenon (feeding support players in solo queue) is one of the reasons that it is possible (and recently, for me at least, not that hard) to increase your own ELO by playing support. So many people are absolutely awful and get forced there by their team, if you are actually willing and good at it you provide a HUGE edge to your team. Between that and having the free mental energy to watch the map most of the time, ping, time objectives, ward key spots (even play-making spots like warding their blue shortly before it comes up) I think playing support can certainly raise ELO effectively.


Too bad playing support depends on your ad not being brain dead though.
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 20:47:27
February 02 2013 20:45 GMT
#995
There's just something with me and the champs I buy ...
Bought Eve, free week + nerf in the 2 coming weeks, bought kata, free week + nerf, bought nunu, nerf, just bought olaf 3 days ago, nerfed

I was thinking about Elise and Ezreal, NERFED.

Main support, here have blitzcrank NERFED.

You wanna jungle and try to carry ? What you only play shaco jungle ? NERFEDDDDDDDD.

Jesus christ so much bad luck T-T
They still haven't nerfed Zed yet so I'm crossing fingers >.>

Edit : To the guy just before me, god bless duo queue and the joy of stomping bot lanes just by being coordinated :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 02 2013 20:46 GMT
#996
So was the League Points fix something that stopped people from getting like 35 points a win and losing 5 points when they lose? Because I thought it was because your preseason Elo was higher than the average in your division?
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CatharsisUT
Profile Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
February 02 2013 20:57 GMT
#997
On February 03 2013 05:41 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 05:40 CatharsisUT wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:42 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:36 barbsq wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:35 zer0das wrote:
Personally I find it amusing that people are like "hey guys, it's my promotion matches, please don't feed" and then go something like 1/10/6 when they're not the support.

1/10/6 isn't really acceptable for support either o.O


Those support players all garbage, always 1/10.


IMO this phenomenon (feeding support players in solo queue) is one of the reasons that it is possible (and recently, for me at least, not that hard) to increase your own ELO by playing support. So many people are absolutely awful and get forced there by their team, if you are actually willing and good at it you provide a HUGE edge to your team. Between that and having the free mental energy to watch the map most of the time, ping, time objectives, ward key spots (even play-making spots like warding their blue shortly before it comes up) I think playing support can certainly raise ELO effectively.


Too bad playing support depends on your ad not being brain dead though.


Sure, but if the AD is a moron that's going to be true regardless of who is supporting. I have taken a lot of terrible AD's and made laning go even by saving them, convincing them to b when they're about to get killed, etc. That's still going to help win a lot of games, even if it doesn't feel as good as stomping a lane.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 02 2013 21:08 GMT
#998
On February 03 2013 05:45 GregMandel wrote:
There's just something with me and the champs I buy ...
Bought Eve, free week + nerf in the 2 coming weeks, bought kata, free week + nerf, bought nunu, nerf, just bought olaf 3 days ago, nerfed

I was thinking about Elise and Ezreal, NERFED.

Main support, here have blitzcrank NERFED.

You wanna jungle and try to carry ? What you only play shaco jungle ? NERFEDDDDDDDD.

Jesus christ so much bad luck T-T
They still haven't nerfed Zed yet so I'm crossing fingers >.>

Edit : To the guy just before me, god bless duo queue and the joy of stomping bot lanes just by being coordinated :D


sry but those are all fotm champions if you see a certain champ picked or banned in the majority of competetive games you can expect nerfs within the next 2-3 patches :D

try to buy a champ thats not played much, master him and dont suffer from nerfes.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 02 2013 21:13 GMT
#999
On February 03 2013 05:27 dottycakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 05:20 obesechicken13 wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:09 TheYango wrote:
On February 03 2013 02:05 obesechicken13 wrote:
That's so counterintuitive I still don't understand it. Do those 5 wins give you 1 elo each?

No?

If you win 13 Elo every game 5 in a row, you're still only 1265 in a league whose bracket is 1450-1550. The system detects that even 5 wins you're nowhere close to getting into the league's normal bracket, and bumps you down.

Not that counterintuitive.

Well then why would you get placed into a 1450-1550 league in the first place if you were 1200 before hand?


I think the system tried to fill in all the divisions with as close to the max (50 people each) as possible, so some people are in divisions they don't belong in.

Using the average rating of current elo and top elo could be a problem, also. If you got really streaky and got to 1800 top elo while your current elo was 1400, you would've been placed higher than where you should be.

Ok I think I understand. It'd be a bit more punishing towards people who pay others to play for them then or who duoqueue with a smurf.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
rackdude
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States882 Posts
February 02 2013 21:14 GMT
#1000
On February 03 2013 06:08 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 05:45 GregMandel wrote:
There's just something with me and the champs I buy ...
Bought Eve, free week + nerf in the 2 coming weeks, bought kata, free week + nerf, bought nunu, nerf, just bought olaf 3 days ago, nerfed

I was thinking about Elise and Ezreal, NERFED.

Main support, here have blitzcrank NERFED.

You wanna jungle and try to carry ? What you only play shaco jungle ? NERFEDDDDDDDD.

Jesus christ so much bad luck T-T
They still haven't nerfed Zed yet so I'm crossing fingers >.>

Edit : To the guy just before me, god bless duo queue and the joy of stomping bot lanes just by being coordinated :D


sry but those are all fotm champions if you see a certain champ picked or banned in the majority of competetive games you can expect nerfs within the next 2-3 patches :D

try to buy a champ thats not played much, master him and dont suffer from nerfes.


^. Try Renekton, Cassiopeia, Hec, etc. Champs that are good but not OP FOTM.
Sweet.
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