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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 11 2014 10:08 GMT
#10101
New spoilers! http://mythicspoiler.com/newspoilers.html

Nefarious Burn definitely seems like it has potential.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 11 2014 11:52 GMT
#10102
The new tribute mechanic is an interesting one. I wonder what they will do with it in the set
EZ4ENCE
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21565 Posts
January 11 2014 11:56 GMT
#10103
You pay the tribute and then doomblade/Hero's downfall it anyway.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
January 11 2014 14:01 GMT
#10104
On January 10 2014 12:20 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Are they actually doing a Rochester draft? That's quite a different experience from a regular draft.


I thought they would for sure, since the Rochester draft originated from here after all. But instead it was everyone building their deck while keeping their cards face down. Open up a pack, take a card, and pass it around. I had a lot of fun anyways and will definitely be doing this regularly! Only cost me $15, I had a blast for five hours, got to meet people in the local MTG scene, and got to take home all the cards I played with as well as the two boosters earned from winning two rounds (though I didn't get much good cards or anything really rare - best one was Bow of Nylea probably). People there were really friendly and helpful given this was my first booster event and I'm just starting to come back to playing MTG.

I want to get more involved with the local scene here and have more people to play with regularly. I really only have one friend to play with right now. I assume my local store usually has a few people playing MTG at all hours throughout the week, even without an event going on. Any suggestions other that randomly stopping in the store to find more people locally who play MTG?
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 11 2014 15:00 GMT
#10105
On January 11 2014 19:08 Whole wrote:
New spoilers! http://mythicspoiler.com/newspoilers.html

Nefarious Burn definitely seems like it has potential.


Wow, those are some clunky monsters.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
January 11 2014 18:34 GMT
#10106
On January 12 2014 00:00 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 19:08 Whole wrote:
New spoilers! http://mythicspoiler.com/newspoilers.html

Nefarious Burn definitely seems like it has potential.


Wow, those are some clunky monsters.


"Monsters" Like mechanics like this I feel are going to be underwhelming (like Desecration Demon, people would play him as a 4 mana 6/6 flyer regardless) or overpowered where you are damned if you tribute, damned if you don't.
Get it by your hands...
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 11 2014 18:44 GMT
#10107
Even a 6-mana vanilla 12/12 would not be constructed playable. There's no real comparison with Desecration Demon here, the whole cycle is overcosted creatures with conditional abilities that will only be useful in limited. I am a bit curious about what "Inspiration" and "Manifestation counters" are, though, because that looks cute.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 11 2014 19:27 GMT
#10108
I think those big fat dudes are the promos cards you get for when you choose your color at the prerelease event, so I don't think they were meant to be constructed playable.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 13 2014 05:17 GMT
#10109
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/bornofthegodsmechanics

I really think BotG will be a good set. After temporarily leaving MTG after the Zendikar-block, the Theros-block really feels like a good place to return to the game
EZ4ENCE
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 05:41:07
January 13 2014 05:31 GMT
#10110
Holy cow pain seer... Not even I knew it was going to be so good :O

Edit: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Double Edit: Satanic sligh gogogo
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
January 13 2014 17:05 GMT
#10111
Pain seer looks quite insane. People whining it's not bob...yeah, well, this has situations where it's better.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 13 2014 17:18 GMT
#10112
Pain seer's name is pretty uninspired lol.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 13 2014 19:20 GMT
#10113
On January 14 2014 02:05 Audemed wrote:
Pain seer looks quite insane. People whining it's not bob...yeah, well, this has situations where it's better.

In my mind this card fills the role blood scrivener was supposed to fill but better.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
January 13 2014 20:46 GMT
#10114
On January 14 2014 02:05 Audemed wrote:
Pain seer looks quite insane. People whining it's not bob...yeah, well, this has situations where it's better.

And many more where it's worse... like if your opponent leaves a 3/3 untapped
good vibes only
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 13 2014 20:59 GMT
#10115
On January 14 2014 05:46 Meta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 02:05 Audemed wrote:
Pain seer looks quite insane. People whining it's not bob...yeah, well, this has situations where it's better.

And many more where it's worse... like if your opponent leaves a 3/3 untapped

As an aggro deck a 3/3 untapped is going to be an issue anyways.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 21:50:45
January 13 2014 21:40 GMT
#10116
I'm playing in my first Standard tournament tonight. Since I'm very new to the competitive scene, I basically just net-decked some Red Deck Wins (RDW). My deck is very similar to this:

http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=6371&d=236694

However, I've changed the sideboard up significantly and made a couple swaps for creatures. 8 of my sideboard cards right now are specifically to deal with UW control decks that have Sphinx Revelation, Divination, Detention Sphere, etc. However, since I'm so new to the competitive scene, I really don't know what cards I would swap out for them. Here is my deck and sideboard:

Main:
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Ash Zealot
4 Firefist Striker
4 Fanatic of Mogis
4 Burning Tree Emissary
4 Gore-house Chainwalker
4 Lightning Strike
3 Shock
4 Dragon Mantle
1 Hammer of Purphorous
20 Mountains

Side:
2 Mindsparker (UW hate)
3 Toil//Trouble (Sphinx Revelation / Divination hate)
3 Skullcrack (Life-gain / Sphinx Revelation hate)
3 Electrickery (deals with 1/1 creatures and tokens)
2 Seismic Stomp (against other creature heavy decks)
2 Act of Treason (against stompier creature decks)

Sub against UW control?
I'm thinking I bring in 2 Mindsparker, 3 Toil//Trouble, 3 Skullcrack and sub out 4 Dragon Mantle (tough enough to get creatures out, probably won't be able to put it on anything for the draw), but then I'm not sure what else I would sub out? I'm also open to changes in my main deck and sideboard (I really want to put in Chandra's Phoenix, but I won't be getting that card for a few more days - ordered online).

edit:
I think it's clear 4 Firefist Striker should be the other sub, duh. I likely won't be able to keep 2 other creatures around on the field long enough against this deck to make him useful.

So my gameplan against the deck:

Start
Mulligan if I don't get a hand with at least 2 lands and 2 creatures. (Risky?)
Pump out creatures quickly.
Hold onto Skullcrack and Toil//Trouble for the big life-gain play
When he has at least 7 mana, if I have Skullcrack, keep 2 mana untapped in case he casts Sphinx Revelation. (Ideally Skullcrack then to prevent the life-gain and deal 3, then Toil//Trouble to blast him for 7 more)
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 02:32:06
January 14 2014 02:31 GMT
#10117
Well... that was a quick exit. The tournament format was there are four best of 3 rounds, but you need to win three rounds to gain any prize. I lost the first two rounds 0-2, and wanted to still play more anyways, but 3rd person also was 0-2 and conceded. Lame. I just wanted to play more MTG!

So game breakdown with my RDW deck at my first Standard Tournament:

Round 1: vs Bigger Red Deck
I didn't have anything in my sideboard for the mirror match, like Peak Eruption or ah... forget the card... a +2+2 and gain mountain-walk enchantment.

1st Game:
Started off well with my aggro creatures coming out and swinging fast. But he had a turn 3 reckoner, followed shortly after by a Chandra planeswalker and Stormbreath Dragon. I had nothing to deal with the dragon so was eating 4 every turn. He did Chained to Rocks on my Ash Zealot and Fanatic of Mogis. I just got overwhelmed and lost board control by turn 7 or so and it was game over then.

2nd Game:
I sideboarded in some Seismic Stomps and Skullcracks to avoid his creatures and deal damage easier. This game was a lot closer. I had board control for the first 5 turns and was pumping out creatures like crazy. However, that was a big part of my downfall - he sideboarded in Anger of Gods and got a 5 for 1. Ouch. I ended up with 4 mountains on board, 2 Fanatic Mogis and 2 Seismic Stomps in hand. All I did the next two turns was Fanatic for 1 damage, then he Chained to Rocks my Fanatic - and then next turn cast another Fanatic Mogis. He was down to 4 life but I couldn't keep up as his bigger red creatures overran me.

Round 2: vs Mono-blue devotion:
I lost abysmally 0-2 here. I've been out of the loop so long I didn't even know what Master of the Waves or Nightveil Specter did. In game one I misread the board when he has 6 +3+4 elementals out and attacked into them losing 3 of my creatures. That was the dumbest play I have ever made for sure. 2nd game I tried subbing in Electrickery to deal with the tokens and Mindsparker to deal with some of his blue spells. Didn't matter, he ended up with 2 Nightveil Specters and it was just game over.

At the end of the game I asked him for some constructive feedback on how Red decks can deal with his deck. He said I need to kill him before he gets Master of Waves out otherwise it's pretty much over. Maybe Anger of the Gods... Mizzium Mortars overload cost would take too long to get to. Not sure how to deal with his deck really.

Ending Thoughts
I was pretty bummed out that the 3rd person didn't just want to play for fun anyways. I really want more experience playing against different decks. Meh. My friend there was bummed out losing with his UW Control deck that I overprepared my sideboard for, losing to two aggro decks, that he didn't even want to play me afterwards.

It's tough to make new MTG friends. I end up coming early to tournaments and sitting at a table play testing some of my decks and everyone just sticks with their group of friends. I think I just need to be more proactive in asking people to play rather than hoping someone sits and wants to play vs me.

Ah well... it was a fun few hours for only $5. (Sorry this post seems more blog-worthy I guess)
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 14 2014 05:44 GMT
#10118
On January 14 2014 05:46 Meta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 02:05 Audemed wrote:
Pain seer looks quite insane. People whining it's not bob...yeah, well, this has situations where it's better.

And many more where it's worse... like if your opponent leaves a 3/3 untapped


Seeker of Skybreak for value yo

j/k

I have a feeling that he will be part of some tier 3 infinite combo deck that untaps him continually while drawing cards.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 14 2014 07:49 GMT
#10119
What do you guys think of

[image loading]
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
January 14 2014 08:18 GMT
#10120
On January 14 2014 16:49 Whole wrote:
What do you guys think of

[image loading]


Cost 1 too much. Good enough to play, not good enough to play around.

That being said, I think the 5 damage giant is fairly powerful in draft and I don't think the mechanic is not a total bust.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
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