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On July 26 2013 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:17 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also we are not lynching Artanis or Lazermonkey. Exactly why are we not lynching Artanis? Because he is making sense although his case on you i don't agree with. Can we just kill Sylencia/Koshi? Koshi is definitely most scummy from the active players. He is even himself calling his post terrible... Sylencia & Malongo are just meh and Sylencia just disappeared after he was put some pressure on him. At least Malongo lurks with style, though he is useless.
You know your stuff, dear rayn.
How do you feel about Malongo after reading my post? Killing someone who is clearly anti-town who has a decent chance of being scum is excellent.
I want to propose that if Malongo doesn't show up until deadline with anything useful, we murder him.
Reasons above ^^^^^^
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On July 26 2013 07:35 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 06:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, to be honest I actually think artanis is town.
Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out.
He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum.
Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread.
Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town
If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread
Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective. Well, attacking vocal players is more effective if you go by my logic. However, he sounded flimsy as fuck in this post: Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it. ? Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world. but there can only be one carrot per monkey. Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it. If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no? There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. On July 24 2013 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Second thought.
What if the Kenpachi rule is started by scum? Or scum is finding FT a fitting target? Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. I am also not a big fan of using this tactic to destroy all conversation day 1, or redirect it on 1 person. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. If he is scum, this is textbook definition of "OMG I'M NOT STICKING MY NECK OUT" In this same demeanor, it's hard to imagine a scum artanis to randomly say that you are scum and thus do the exact opposite: draw attention to himself. Since I don't have much to work with day 1, it's a small tell, but I feel he's a bad lynch for today. There is a diference though, when he made the flimsy post he wasn't being pressured. He then got called out for being very wish-washy and not scum hunting. THEN he starts to scum hunt and not being flimsy. My guess is that he wanted to show some balls by attacking me.
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On July 26 2013 06:47 Koshi wrote:
1. Z-BosoN I don't want to lynch this guy, looks town to me because he didn't tunnel me after my "scumslip". I think scum would put more pressure on me after that.
2. Malongo My current number 1 lynch target. Can we let rayn masonkill him?
3. Stutters695 Really focusing a lot on Malongo. The Stutters in Nuclear didn't do that. I could see him being scum.
4. Artanis[Xp] Came out to play after trolling. yay. Can't be serious about lynching Lazer right?
5. Dandel Ion He looks like he tries to figure out the game between the trolling.
6. Raynpelikoneet I don't like you this game rayn. All the rambling about the Kenpachi rule and then saying FT is scum for that reason. I am somewhat surprised you are not killing Malongo. Why are you so afraid?
7. ShiaoPi Looks like a good addition to town. Kept his cool when I was being a drama queen. I like.
8. Rainbows Rainbows are magic. I loved our policy, we had a moment there. Wouldn't lynch.
9. Koshi Yeah... This guy is not looking too good. lynching him will make town disappointed. But not too disappointed.
10. FirmTofu Looks town. Speaks his mind. Want to see more on Day 2.
11. Lazermonkey Superactive. Agressive. Controlling. Never lynch, never surrender.
12. Sylencia I don't understand why people want to lynch lazer. Do not understand.
Koshi, can you comment more on FirmTofu, especially given my last big post?
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Z-boson, you think Koshi and Malango are scum because their play is very bad for town. I can agree with this in some ways. However, a big part of my problems with both Koshi and Malango being scum is that their play is really bonkers if they are scum. Try to analyze their actions from scum PoV and not only town PoV and see if you see what I see!
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On July 26 2013 07:41 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 06:47 Koshi wrote:
1. Z-BosoN I don't want to lynch this guy, looks town to me because he didn't tunnel me after my "scumslip". I think scum would put more pressure on me after that.
2. Malongo My current number 1 lynch target. Can we let rayn masonkill him?
3. Stutters695 Really focusing a lot on Malongo. The Stutters in Nuclear didn't do that. I could see him being scum.
4. Artanis[Xp] Came out to play after trolling. yay. Can't be serious about lynching Lazer right?
5. Dandel Ion He looks like he tries to figure out the game between the trolling.
6. Raynpelikoneet I don't like you this game rayn. All the rambling about the Kenpachi rule and then saying FT is scum for that reason. I am somewhat surprised you are not killing Malongo. Why are you so afraid?
7. ShiaoPi Looks like a good addition to town. Kept his cool when I was being a drama queen. I like.
8. Rainbows Rainbows are magic. I loved our policy, we had a moment there. Wouldn't lynch.
9. Koshi Yeah... This guy is not looking too good. lynching him will make town disappointed. But not too disappointed.
10. FirmTofu Looks town. Speaks his mind. Want to see more on Day 2.
11. Lazermonkey Superactive. Agressive. Controlling. Never lynch, never surrender.
12. Sylencia I don't understand why people want to lynch lazer. Do not understand.
Koshi, can you comment more on FirmTofu, especially given my last big post?
Contradicting yourself is something you easily do as town when you don't have clear reads. First you think somebody is scummy, then he makes a couple good posts and suddenly you are a town read. Overall I do like FT his filter.
@rayn. Put your vote on me if you like. Why are you so scared? Put it down and stop soft pointing at me.
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On July 26 2013 07:41 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:35 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 06:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, to be honest I actually think artanis is town.
Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out.
He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum.
Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread.
Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town
If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread
Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective. Well, attacking vocal players is more effective if you go by my logic. However, he sounded flimsy as fuck in this post: On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it. ? Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world. but there can only be one carrot per monkey. Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it. If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no? There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. On July 24 2013 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Second thought.
What if the Kenpachi rule is started by scum? Or scum is finding FT a fitting target? Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. I am also not a big fan of using this tactic to destroy all conversation day 1, or redirect it on 1 person. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. If he is scum, this is textbook definition of "OMG I'M NOT STICKING MY NECK OUT" In this same demeanor, it's hard to imagine a scum artanis to randomly say that you are scum and thus do the exact opposite: draw attention to himself. Since I don't have much to work with day 1, it's a small tell, but I feel he's a bad lynch for today. There is a diference though, when he made the flimsy post he wasn't being pressured. He then got called out for being very wish-washy and not scum hunting. THEN he starts to scum hunt and not being flimsy. My guess is that he wanted to show some balls by attacking me.
Well that kind of makes sense, but why didn't he antagonize Rainbow, as he was the first one to oppress artanis? If he wanted to show balls, why not do it earlier?
Also, what of my bit on stutters, do you agree on it?
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On July 26 2013 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So lazer, we need to consolidate on 2/3 players and you bring up 5. rofl, what's that?
Currently:
Sylencia
Koshi
On July 26 2013 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis what's your stance on Syl/Koshi?
Lazer, have you seen Koshi play scum? Your townread on him is based on extremely weak and wrong reasons.
On July 26 2013 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also now Koshi has figured out new things why i am scum for. Those things were already said when he made his first case on me. He is also left out everything else i have done, which is far more than most of the players in terms of scumhunting.
On July 26 2013 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:17 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also we are not lynching Artanis or Lazermonkey. Exactly why are we not lynching Artanis? Because he is making sense although his case on you i don't agree with. Can we just kill Sylencia/Koshi? Koshi is definitely most scummy from the active players. He is even himself calling his post terrible... Sylencia & Malongo are just meh and Sylencia just disappeared after he was put some pressure on him. At least Malongo lurks with style, though he is useless.
You are being boring in your last 10 posts.
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Is rayn always so doubtful?
please guis I have 2 targets but don't want to choose.
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On July 26 2013 07:47 Lazermonkey wrote:
Z-boson, you think Koshi and Malango are scum because their play is very bad for town. I can agree with this in some ways. However, a big part of my problems with both Koshi and Malango being scum is that their play is really bonkers if they are scum. Try to analyze their actions from scum PoV and not only town PoV and see if you see what I see!
No, I think Malongo's play is very bad for town, and I haven't read koshi's filter yet.
Like I said, I originially thought Malongo's play to be weird-as-fuck to make from a scum POV.
However, remember Chezinu from nuclear mafia? Nuking MZ,a townie looking dude, for little reason? I thought that same thing, and disregarded any anti-town play coming up from chezinu. You can't base too much off of one action.
What I do know is that Malongo's play is 100% anti-town, and thus town will benefit from killing him, regardless of his alignment. And who knows, he might actually flip scum.
Think gumshoe from Nuclear, WIFOM ninja-voting. I do not regret that lynch. Same logic imo.
I've played in a game once where it ended up with grush and BillMurray (two vets who are pretty trolly and useless) in the endgame, with DarthPunk as scum. It was sad to see town ignore an uncounterclaimed cop's reads leading to the endgame and then losing, despite the game already been solved. Don't you agree, ShiaoPi? (he was the cop)
Anyways, my point is that D1 is likely a mislynch, so lets mislynch someone who we know is bad for town.
This will be the case unless Malongo decides to post and contribute with anything useful.
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On July 26 2013 07:47 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:41 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 06:47 Koshi wrote:
1. Z-BosoN I don't want to lynch this guy, looks town to me because he didn't tunnel me after my "scumslip". I think scum would put more pressure on me after that.
2. Malongo My current number 1 lynch target. Can we let rayn masonkill him?
3. Stutters695 Really focusing a lot on Malongo. The Stutters in Nuclear didn't do that. I could see him being scum.
4. Artanis[Xp] Came out to play after trolling. yay. Can't be serious about lynching Lazer right?
5. Dandel Ion He looks like he tries to figure out the game between the trolling.
6. Raynpelikoneet I don't like you this game rayn. All the rambling about the Kenpachi rule and then saying FT is scum for that reason. I am somewhat surprised you are not killing Malongo. Why are you so afraid?
7. ShiaoPi Looks like a good addition to town. Kept his cool when I was being a drama queen. I like.
8. Rainbows Rainbows are magic. I loved our policy, we had a moment there. Wouldn't lynch.
9. Koshi Yeah... This guy is not looking too good. lynching him will make town disappointed. But not too disappointed.
10. FirmTofu Looks town. Speaks his mind. Want to see more on Day 2.
11. Lazermonkey Superactive. Agressive. Controlling. Never lynch, never surrender.
12. Sylencia I don't understand why people want to lynch lazer. Do not understand.
Koshi, can you comment more on FirmTofu, especially given my last big post? Contradicting yourself is something you easily do as town when you don't have clear reads. First you think somebody is scummy, then he makes a couple good posts and suddenly you are a town read. Overall I do like FT his filter. @rayn. Put your vote on me if you like. Why are you so scared? Put it down and stop soft pointing at me.
That's not the main point I want you to respond to. He's not contradicting himself. It's hints that he is not reading the thread and the changes of tonality in his views on me.
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On July 26 2013 07:47 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:41 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 07:35 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 06:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, to be honest I actually think artanis is town.
Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out.
He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum.
Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread.
Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town
If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread
Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective. Well, attacking vocal players is more effective if you go by my logic. However, he sounded flimsy as fuck in this post: On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it. ? Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world. but there can only be one carrot per monkey. Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it. If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no? There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. On July 24 2013 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Second thought.
What if the Kenpachi rule is started by scum? Or scum is finding FT a fitting target? Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. I am also not a big fan of using this tactic to destroy all conversation day 1, or redirect it on 1 person. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. If he is scum, this is textbook definition of "OMG I'M NOT STICKING MY NECK OUT" In this same demeanor, it's hard to imagine a scum artanis to randomly say that you are scum and thus do the exact opposite: draw attention to himself. Since I don't have much to work with day 1, it's a small tell, but I feel he's a bad lynch for today. There is a diference though, when he made the flimsy post he wasn't being pressured. He then got called out for being very wish-washy and not scum hunting. THEN he starts to scum hunt and not being flimsy. My guess is that he wanted to show some balls by attacking me. Well that kind of makes sense, but why didn't he antagonize Rainbow, as he was the first one to oppress artanis? If he wanted to show balls, why not do it earlier? Also, what of my bit on stutters, do you agree on it? I can think of several diferent reasons but I don't think it matters too much, I can't speak for Artanis.
No I still really dislike him. And I find it even more interesting that he goes away RIGHT when swaped over to Artanis. Also, think of this: Look at stutters filter and take note of his recent activity. He is really arguing HARD with me. he says I'm really scummy and that he is really considering voting me. But WHERE is his vote? on Malango, and it still is? but what does he do with it? Jack shit. And then he just leaves it there. Stutters is not interested in finding scum.
Actually, I think I can kill stutters instead. Someone else wantie?
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On July 26 2013 07:58 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:47 Koshi wrote:On July 26 2013 07:41 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 06:47 Koshi wrote:
1. Z-BosoN I don't want to lynch this guy, looks town to me because he didn't tunnel me after my "scumslip". I think scum would put more pressure on me after that.
2. Malongo My current number 1 lynch target. Can we let rayn masonkill him?
3. Stutters695 Really focusing a lot on Malongo. The Stutters in Nuclear didn't do that. I could see him being scum.
4. Artanis[Xp] Came out to play after trolling. yay. Can't be serious about lynching Lazer right?
5. Dandel Ion He looks like he tries to figure out the game between the trolling.
6. Raynpelikoneet I don't like you this game rayn. All the rambling about the Kenpachi rule and then saying FT is scum for that reason. I am somewhat surprised you are not killing Malongo. Why are you so afraid?
7. ShiaoPi Looks like a good addition to town. Kept his cool when I was being a drama queen. I like.
8. Rainbows Rainbows are magic. I loved our policy, we had a moment there. Wouldn't lynch.
9. Koshi Yeah... This guy is not looking too good. lynching him will make town disappointed. But not too disappointed.
10. FirmTofu Looks town. Speaks his mind. Want to see more on Day 2.
11. Lazermonkey Superactive. Agressive. Controlling. Never lynch, never surrender.
12. Sylencia I don't understand why people want to lynch lazer. Do not understand.
Koshi, can you comment more on FirmTofu, especially given my last big post? Contradicting yourself is something you easily do as town when you don't have clear reads. First you think somebody is scummy, then he makes a couple good posts and suddenly you are a town read. Overall I do like FT his filter. @rayn. Put your vote on me if you like. Why are you so scared? Put it down and stop soft pointing at me. That's not the main point I want you to respond to. He's not contradicting himself. It's hints that he is not reading the thread and the changes of tonality in his views on me.
The way I see it is that he looked at you and probably saw a couple bad posts and called you out. After that he realized his mistake. FT might not be looking great, but shouldn't scum be more careful in calling out people?
I don't want to defend FT too much. Maybe he is scum, maybe not. I say not.
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So. No clear lynch target? Got to go to bed now D:
Think I will leave my vote on Artanis. Came out to play only once, and he did so by attacking Lazer, meh, I don't like it.
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On July 26 2013 08:04 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:47 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 07:41 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 07:35 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 06:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, to be honest I actually think artanis is town.
Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out.
He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum.
Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread.
Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town
If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread
Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective. Well, attacking vocal players is more effective if you go by my logic. However, he sounded flimsy as fuck in this post: On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it. ? Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world. but there can only be one carrot per monkey. Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it. If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no? There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. On July 24 2013 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Second thought.
What if the Kenpachi rule is started by scum? Or scum is finding FT a fitting target? Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. I am also not a big fan of using this tactic to destroy all conversation day 1, or redirect it on 1 person. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. If he is scum, this is textbook definition of "OMG I'M NOT STICKING MY NECK OUT" In this same demeanor, it's hard to imagine a scum artanis to randomly say that you are scum and thus do the exact opposite: draw attention to himself. Since I don't have much to work with day 1, it's a small tell, but I feel he's a bad lynch for today. There is a diference though, when he made the flimsy post he wasn't being pressured. He then got called out for being very wish-washy and not scum hunting. THEN he starts to scum hunt and not being flimsy. My guess is that he wanted to show some balls by attacking me. Well that kind of makes sense, but why didn't he antagonize Rainbow, as he was the first one to oppress artanis? If he wanted to show balls, why not do it earlier? Also, what of my bit on stutters, do you agree on it? I can think of several diferent reasons but I don't think it matters too much, I can't speak for Artanis. No I still really dislike him. And I find it even more interesting that he goes away RIGHT when swaped over to Artanis. Also, think of this: Look at stutters filter and take note of his recent activity. He is really arguing HARD with me. he says I'm really scummy and that he is really considering voting me. But WHERE is his vote? on Malango, and it still is? but what does he do with it? Jack shit. And then he just leaves it there. Stutters is not interested in finding scum. Actually, I think I can kill stutters instead. Someone else wantie?
You're gonna have to be much more specific than that dude on him.
It sounds more like you are angry at him rather than you think he's scum. All you said here is he is arguing hard against you, and yet his vote is not on you. I think you should be looking at the quality of his arguments. Do you agree with them? Are they logical or is he bullshitting?
Stutters lurks as town and is very low on activity, normally, with the occasional good post. IMO his points against you don't look too bad, but I want to see if you think the same or not
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On July 26 2013 08:09 Koshi wrote:
So. No clear lynch target? Got to go to bed now D:
Think I will leave my vote on Artanis. Came out to play only once, and he did so by attacking Lazer, meh, I don't like it.
Wtf?? This post of yours came AFTER he attacked lazer:
On July 26 2013 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Agreed. I like it that Artanis came out to play. So much more fun.
So. Let's find another target. I think I will be petty and look at rayn and Malongo for repeatedly trying to shift focus to me. Not that I can blame them, I am looking pretty bad.
I still got a bad feeling about that whole shooting/not shooting thingie.
Are you scared to push your own reads or something?
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Hmm, well I feel like going to bed as well : (. But because I am a man I will try to get up at 5:00am and play Lol. To all of you left, remember to consolidate!!! I cannot stress how important this is! The more we split our votes the more influnce you give scum votes. And if you are voting for someone who is not one of the main candidates you are indirectly voting the one who got the most votes. So do consolidate, even if it means you have to vote a lesser scum read.
My lynch priority as for now!
1.Artanis
2.Stutters.
3.FT
4.Sylencia
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On July 26 2013 08:16 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hmm, well I feel like going to bed as well : (. But because I am a man I will try to get up at 5:00am and play Lol. To all of you left, remember to consolidate!!! I cannot stress how important this is! The more we split our votes the more influnce you give scum votes. And if you are voting for someone who is not one of the main candidates you are indirectly voting the one who got the most votes. So do consolidate, even if it means you have to vote a lesser scum read.
My lynch priority as for now!
1.Artanis
2.Stutters.
3.FT
4.Sylencia
Ugh, it won't help town consolidate if we don't reach a consensus on artanis/stutters/malongo >.<
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Z-Boson. I do not understand what you want from me. I didn't like Artanis his lurking/trolling. When he did come back I started to look for better targets but I can't find one. I could go for a Malongo lynch.
If Lazer and you agree within 5 mins I will change. Otherwise it stays on Artanis.
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On July 26 2013 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 08:04 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 07:47 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 07:41 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 07:35 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 06:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, to be honest I actually think artanis is town.
Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out.
He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum.
Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread.
Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town
If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread
Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective. Well, attacking vocal players is more effective if you go by my logic. However, he sounded flimsy as fuck in this post: On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest.
Your stuff is weak. y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it. ? Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world. but there can only be one carrot per monkey. Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it. If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no? There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. On July 24 2013 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Second thought.
What if the Kenpachi rule is started by scum? Or scum is finding FT a fitting target? Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. I am also not a big fan of using this tactic to destroy all conversation day 1, or redirect it on 1 person. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. If he is scum, this is textbook definition of "OMG I'M NOT STICKING MY NECK OUT" In this same demeanor, it's hard to imagine a scum artanis to randomly say that you are scum and thus do the exact opposite: draw attention to himself. Since I don't have much to work with day 1, it's a small tell, but I feel he's a bad lynch for today. There is a diference though, when he made the flimsy post he wasn't being pressured. He then got called out for being very wish-washy and not scum hunting. THEN he starts to scum hunt and not being flimsy. My guess is that he wanted to show some balls by attacking me. Well that kind of makes sense, but why didn't he antagonize Rainbow, as he was the first one to oppress artanis? If he wanted to show balls, why not do it earlier? Also, what of my bit on stutters, do you agree on it? I can think of several diferent reasons but I don't think it matters too much, I can't speak for Artanis. No I still really dislike him. And I find it even more interesting that he goes away RIGHT when swaped over to Artanis. Also, think of this: Look at stutters filter and take note of his recent activity. He is really arguing HARD with me. he says I'm really scummy and that he is really considering voting me. But WHERE is his vote? on Malango, and it still is? but what does he do with it? Jack shit. And then he just leaves it there. Stutters is not interested in finding scum. Actually, I think I can kill stutters instead. Someone else wantie? You're gonna have to be much more specific than that dude on him. It sounds more like you are angry at him rather than you think he's scum. All you said here is he is arguing hard against you, and yet his vote is not on you. I think you should be looking at the quality of his arguments. Do you agree with them? Are they logical or is he bullshitting? Stutters lurks as town and is very low on activity, normally, with the occasional good post. IMO his points against you don't look too bad, but I want to see if you think the same or not He has no points against me. His whole vote on me is based on the fact that I attacked him. How does that convince you?
No I think he has a very high chance of being scum. Think of this: You are under no real pressure at all, you have 1(actually this is another point, he basically haven't taken a stance on anyone but me and Mal the last 24 hours...) scum read. Some dude says you are scum but noone agrees with this dude. What do you do as town?
I can buy that you argue with the dude. But why isn't he interested in his scum read? He is clearly not going to get lynched yet all he cars about is defending himself. He doesn't care at all about hunting scum. And guess what alignment doesn't care about hunting scum? scum...
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On July 26 2013 08:22 Koshi wrote:
Z-Boson. I do not understand what you want from me. I didn't like Artanis his lurking/trolling. When he did come back I started to look for better targets but I can't find one. I could go for a Malongo lynch.
If Lazer and you agree within 5 mins I will change. Otherwise it stays on Artanis. Naw, leave it on Artanis.
Good night!
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