EPTOn July 26 2013 06:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, he did just stick out his neck for me.
Well, he did just stick out his neck for me.
Look, he stuck his neck out again! and for me!
I hope you are my date tomorrow
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Z-BosoN
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Look, he stuck his neck out again! and for me! I hope you are my date tomorrow | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On July 26 2013 06:33 Z-BosoN wrote: Look, he stuck his neck out again! and for me! I hope you are my date tomorrow ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sC0E9mx.png) | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
2. Malongo My current number 1 lynch target. Can we let rayn masonkill him? 3. Stutters695 Really focusing a lot on Malongo. The Stutters in Nuclear didn't do that. I could see him being scum. 4. Artanis[Xp] Came out to play after trolling. yay. Can't be serious about lynching Lazer right? 5. Dandel Ion He looks like he tries to figure out the game between the trolling. 6. Raynpelikoneet I don't like you this game rayn. All the rambling about the Kenpachi rule and then saying FT is scum for that reason. I am somewhat surprised you are not killing Malongo. Why are you so afraid? 7. ShiaoPi Looks like a good addition to town. Kept his cool when I was being a drama queen. I like. 8. Rainbows Rainbows are magic. I loved our policy, we had a moment there. Wouldn't lynch. 9. Koshi Yeah... This guy is not looking too good. lynching him will make town disappointed. But not too disappointed. 10. FirmTofu Looks town. Speaks his mind. Want to see more on Day 2. 11. Lazermonkey Superactive. Agressive. Controlling. Never lynch, never surrender. 12. Sylencia I don't understand why people want to lynch lazer. Do not understand. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Is there a small chance that both are scum? Is Malongo scum for trying to kill rayn? But why did he stop? He didn't give a reason. Is rayn scum for not shooting malongo? I feel like he should be more upset about it? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On July 26 2013 06:52 Koshi wrote: Lets talk rayn or malongo? Is there a small chance that both are scum? Seems unlikely. Drawing attention to both of them with the stint Malongo pulled seems unlikely. Is Malongo scum for trying to kill rayn? But why did he stop? He didn't give a reason. I have no idea and I would like to know that as well. I can't find both a town or a scum reason for it so it mostly leaves me confused. Is rayn scum for not shooting malongo? I feel like he should be more upset about it? I think he realized after a while that it didn't go through and I like how he continued to scumhunt afterwards. I don't like how he hasn't really put any pressure on Malongo though, but it's possible he's done that in the QT. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Malongo 07-25-2013 07:26 AM ET (US) Honestly I am lost, I have like 0 reads atm. My vote on Koshi is basically an abstain. raynpelikoneet 07-24-2013 04:58 PM ET (US) Where's your head atm? Who do you think is scum? What do you think of Rainbows / Sylencia / FT? I have no idea what to think about this.. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
It would be pretty sick that he did it because he figured out you were his mason and you are both scum. It's sounds crazy but why actually send the pm to the host (let's be honest here, he did that) and then stop because suddenly it was rayn in the mason chat... If Malongo was doing #BigPlays, he should have followed up better than what he is doing. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 26 2013 06:15 Z-BosoN wrote: Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective.Well, to be honest I actually think artanis is town. Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out. He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum. Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread. Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 26 2013 06:21 Koshi wrote: What tha? So Artanis comes back and you suddenly don't think he is scum anymore?Agreed. I like it that Artanis came out to play. So much more fun. So. Let's find another target. I think I will be petty and look at rayn and Malongo for repeatedly trying to shift focus to me. Not that I can blame them, I am looking pretty bad. I still got a bad feeling about that whole shooting/not shooting thingie. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also now Koshi has figured out new things why i am scum for. Those things were already said when he made his first case on me. He is also left out everything else i have done, which is far more than most of the players in terms of scumhunting. Got to find reasons why people are scummy. What else is there to do? I don't know who to vote on rayn. Can you help me? | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Exactly why are we not lynching Artanis?Also we are not lynching Artanis or Lazermonkey. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:15 Lazermonkey wrote: What tha? So Artanis comes back and you suddenly don't think he is scum anymore? My vote is still on him. But I would not bet monies on Artanis being scum if I had 4:1 odds. Or is it 1:4? I am no bookmaker. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:19 Koshi wrote: Let me rephrase, who do you want to kill the most?My vote is still on him. But I would not bet monies on Artanis being scum if I had 4:1 odds. Or is it 1:4? I am no bookmaker. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Because he is making sense although his case on you i don't agree with. Can we just kill Sylencia/Koshi? Koshi is definitely most scummy from the active players. He is even himself calling his post terrible... Sylencia & Malongo are just meh and Sylencia just disappeared after he was put some pressure on him. At least Malongo lurks with style, though he is useless. | ||
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Z-BosoN
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First of all, lynching active people day one is stupid. On the offchance that they are town, it will massively fuck up the end game. Thus, I want town to fuck off concerning these players: Lazermonkey Rainbow ShiaoPi (I'm surprised he's active, he's genrally lurky in d1) rayn That being said, here are the people I do not want to lynch because of the town vibes: Artanis (see end of page 25) Stutters (see end of this post) This leaves: Sylencia Malango Koshi FirmTofu Dandel Ion ... so who, Z-BosoN? Who? WHO??!?!?!?! 1- Dandel Dandel had some activity earlier but had to leave. Right now, he's very self-confident of his meta: On July 25 2013 03:57 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm already hard-confirmed town just based on my meta. Deal with it. But I do want to make zboson dead too. So you think it's only about the kenpachi? eyo When there is stuff, there is always stuff, you see. Some stuff is stuffier than other stuff but it's never alone. Unless it's not there, you see, but if it's not there it can't be alone either because it's not even there, you see. Artanis is also scum. And then: On July 25 2013 05:14 Dandel Ion wrote: ull notice the difference when u dont have to harddefend me (thx btw) because i wont even be up for lynch because im such an amazing work of art. my beauty knows no limits. He continued posting after these posts I quoted with, and actually changed his vote due to the fact he had to leave, last thing he did. This suggests that he's uncertain regarding his vote, despite wanting to appear confident. I view this as a townie trait, as I think a meta-aware scum dandel would most likely insist on his read. Not a strong tell, but I don't want to lynch him. 2- Stutters, right now I'm really not digging his lynch. I've played with him quite a few times before and he's always quiet but makes the occasional decent post. He's also quite non-chalant. I pressured him with concerns on the fact that he only had Malango as a scum read and nothing else, and he replied with: On July 25 2013 05:29 Stutters695 wrote: I think Mal is the best lynch currently. Not really sure otherwise. Again, not the town read of my dreams, but I want him spared. 3- FirmTofu He's my mason buddy and he is adorable, but to be honest, I feel he has a good chance of being scum. Main post that caught my attention was this: On July 26 2013 02:33 FirmTofu wrote: Probably Artanis/Malongo/Sylencia. I want to hear more from Z-Boson and Stutters who haven't contributed much yet. I'm null on Lazermonkey and Koshi. Everyone else I'm leaning town. I have been more active than him, and FAR more active than stutters. This is a sign that he's not really reading the thread. And is not really interested. Also, he had this to say in the QT: ..Probably going to sleep soon, so I may not respond for a while. I like your initial posts. I agree with you about how we should play the game going forward. Which isn't in direct contradiction with complaining about my activity, but is a slightly different tone than what I'd expect. I strongly agree that he's someone who should be looked at, but given that he's a capable player and that in nuclear mafia he really picked up activity in day 2 or day 3, I feel he's a bad lynch choice for today. He's also much more active than: 4- Malango Initially I thought the same as ShiaoPi: On July 26 2013 01:36 ShiaoPi wrote: ebwop: elaborating on malongo, what I don't believe is that scum would do such a move (publicly announcing the shot, more or less to his QT partner). It gains waaay too much attention too early in this game. why not just kill him and try explaining afterwards? On the more scummy side of malongo things we also have that "threat" thing he posted in the QT. I really did not like that. Actually I would probably be fine lynching him too (now that I am thinking more about him), but still FT sits better with me. Probably something along the lines of lynch these guys: FT -> Rayn->Rainbows/Malongo But his latest post here was absolute shit. I feel like policy lynching him because he's dead anti-town weight to the endgame, as he proved it twice. He will likely be my vote. 5 - Sylencia Really hate his play, "lynch bait" notwithstanding. Must look at filter more carefully. 6 - Koshi He's mostly here by exclusion. There's the "slip" I noted earlier but that needs to be put in contrast with the rest of his play. TBH I need to look at his filter more carefully as well. I've been very clear here and hopefully people can find this agreeable. Right now I'm interested to hear Lazermonkey respond, as it seems I gave his two top scumreads semi-town reads rofl | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote: Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective. Well, attacking vocal players is more effective if you go by my logic. However, he sounded flimsy as fuck in this post: On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. If he is scum, this is textbook definition of "OMG I'M NOT STICKING MY NECK OUT" In this same demeanor, it's hard to imagine a scum artanis to randomly say that you are scum and thus do the exact opposite: draw attention to himself. Since I don't have much to work with day 1, it's a small tell, but I feel he's a bad lynch for today. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: So the part where he is not taking any real stance nor pushing any scum reads is good? Or what are you meaning? Its terribly easy to make sense as scum even moresoe than town because you actually know if you are wrong or right whereas town you have to guess to some extent. Because he is making sense although his case on you i don't agree with. Can we just kill Sylencia/Koshi? Koshi is definitely most scummy from the active players. He is even himself calling his post terrible... Sylencia & Malongo are just meh and Sylencia just disappeared after he was put some pressure on him. At least Malongo lurks with style, though he is useless. I kinda want to wait with Sylencia, give him one more day. If he doesn't up his posting, I can kill him but right now, I'd rather not kill him. | ||
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