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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 25 2013 20:00 GMT
#461
On July 26 2013 04:47 Rainbows wrote:
everyone is so butthurt about people finding them scummy. lol.
Word.

This really needs to go away. I am having at least three people that I can think of on top of my head that is suspecting me JUST because I attacked them Lol. You guys needs to realize that wrong=/=scum...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 25 2013 20:06 GMT
#462
On July 26 2013 05:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 04:47 Rainbows wrote:
everyone is so butthurt about people finding them scummy. lol.
Word.

This really needs to go away. I am having at least three people that I can think of on top of my head that is suspecting me JUST because I attacked them Lol. You guys needs to realize that wrong=/=scum...

And you here are saying you are accusing townies?

You just got onto my list of justice.
table for two on a tv tray
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 25 2013 20:06 GMT
#463
After reading through the last couple of pages I am strating to like Koshi more and more. My impression of his play is that he is very genuine. He is so honest about saying stuff that he thinks that he says stuff that is "bad". But really, you shouldn't put too much weigh into words. I do say stupid stuff like that ALL the time as town just because I am less likely to care about having a good image in the thread. Scum are way more reluctant about stuff that could potentially cause them to look bad. I also think his suspicions on Artanis makes sense.

I might actually switch over to Artanis, I think I'd rather see him hang than Sylencia and FT...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 25 2013 20:08 GMT
#464
On July 26 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
On July 26 2013 04:47 Rainbows wrote:
everyone is so butthurt about people finding them scummy. lol.
Word.

This really needs to go away. I am having at least three people that I can think of on top of my head that is suspecting me JUST because I attacked them Lol. You guys needs to realize that wrong=/=scum...

And you here are saying you are accusing townies?

You just got onto my list of justice.
Are you fucking stupid? No matter what alignment they have they will have to play from the PoV that I'm accusing a townie, right?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 25 2013 20:14 GMT
#465
Rayn, if it comes down to Artanis vs FT, who will you vote for?

I'm guessing FT after looking at your filter. But you hardly mention Artanis at all, the only thing you say (and rightfully so) about him is that he is jerking off Dandel...
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
July 25 2013 20:18 GMT
#466
On July 26 2013 02:38 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 02:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Reread Rayn, seems pretty townie. Kenpachi gambit not effective this game Too active and angry at people. Scum games seem more calculated.
How many times can we mislynch? Need to know how big my carpet bomb list can be.


i suggest reading parts of his catch 22 filter. am i the only one who thinks it is kinda similar?
assuming 9-3 split of players its 2 mislynches to lylo if the nighthit always goes thriugh

I don't really see it from a quick glance and I can't focus right now to give you more than that.
On July 26 2013 04:42 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So lazer, we need to consolidate on 2/3 players and you bring up 5. rofl, what's that?

Currently:
Sylencia
Koshi
There is a diference though. I would really want to kill stutters but I don't see him as a realistic lynch for today. Sylencia might not be optimal either, at least if what ShiaoPi writes is correct i.e. that he ups his play the longer the game goes. I think todays lynch is between Firmtofu or Artanis.

I think that's a terrible idea. I don't believe Firm is scum and I know I'm not. We both have two votes which is nothing. Nothing is set in stone yet and there's no pressure to pick X people because it's a plurality lynch rather than an instant majority lynch.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 25 2013 20:22 GMT
#467
Well, I didn't say that the lynch were between you and FT, I said I thought it would be between you two. But we really need to consolidate and if you are not confident in todays candidates you really should try the hardest you can to find someone else you think is scummier and push him. Because right now you've done nothing pretty much.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 25 2013 20:23 GMT
#468
Artanis who should we hang today?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
July 25 2013 20:27 GMT
#469
@Artanis
Why are you dodging my question?? Here it is for you again:

On July 25 2013 04:38 Z-BosoN wrote:
@Artanis

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game.

I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest.
Your stuff is weak.

y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it.
?

Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world.

but there can only be one carrot per monkey.
Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it.
If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no?

There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known.
On July 24 2013 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Second thought.

What if the Kenpachi rule is started by scum? Or scum is finding FT a fitting target?

Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town.
I am also not a big fan of using this tactic to destroy all conversation day 1, or redirect it on 1 person.

That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting.
On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game.

I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest.
Your stuff is weak.


Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate.

I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy.


Can you elaborate your town read on Shiao?

Also, I don't think three votes can hardly be considered a "wagon". I don't like how you back off a bit on your "first suspect" because of a 3-man wagon with 33 hours left to deadline... also, it was Firm that firstly expressed distaste in the vt claim, not rayn:

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 14:00 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:33 ShiaoPi wrote:
sup guys. I'm a vt
phoneposting btw

dude, why you claim?


Tell me more about rayne/tofu.


Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
July 25 2013 20:28 GMT
#470
On July 26 2013 05:23 Rainbows wrote:
Artanis who should we hang today?

Right now, I want to lynch Lazer because he seems to be putting a lot of effort into not stepping on people's toes and making sure that the lynch doesn't go in his direction in any case.
##Vote: Lazermonkey
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 25 2013 20:29 GMT
#471
On July 26 2013 05:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:23 Rainbows wrote:
Artanis who should we hang today?

Right now, I want to lynch Lazer because he seems to be putting a lot of effort into not stepping on people's toes and making sure that the lynch doesn't go in his direction in any case.
##Vote: Lazermonkey
LOL you realize I've been the one to step on almost everyone's toes. You on the other hand...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 25 2013 20:30 GMT
#472
EBWOP: And how the fuck does me not wanting myself to die make me scum?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
July 25 2013 20:33 GMT
#473
On July 25 2013 04:38 Z-BosoN wrote:
@Artanis

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game.

I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest.
Your stuff is weak.

y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it.
?

Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world.

but there can only be one carrot per monkey.
Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it.
If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no?

There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known.
On July 24 2013 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Second thought.

What if the Kenpachi rule is started by scum? Or scum is finding FT a fitting target?

Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town.
I am also not a big fan of using this tactic to destroy all conversation day 1, or redirect it on 1 person.

That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting.
On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game.

I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest.
Your stuff is weak.


Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate.

I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy.


Can you elaborate your town read on Shiao?

He thought about how to place a trap to catch scum and he followed through with it and acted upon his suspicion. I can follow the process and it feels genuine.

Also, I don't think three votes can hardly be considered a "wagon". I don't like how you back off a bit on your "first suspect" because of a 3-man wagon with 33 hours left to deadline... also, it was Firm that firstly expressed distaste in the vt claim, not rayn:

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 14:00 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:33 ShiaoPi wrote:
sup guys. I'm a vt
phoneposting btw

dude, why you claim?


Tell me more about rayne/tofu.


It's the start of a wagon and those things can get out of control pretty quickly. I didn't want a single candidate to be homed in on too quickly.

I currently don't think Rayne or Tofu is scum. Both of them have been trying to scumhunt and have raised valid points to the point that I'm currently not interested in them.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
July 25 2013 20:33 GMT
#474
On July 26 2013 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:23 Rainbows wrote:
Artanis who should we hang today?

Right now, I want to lynch Lazer because he seems to be putting a lot of effort into not stepping on people's toes and making sure that the lynch doesn't go in his direction in any case.
##Vote: Lazermonkey
LOL you realize I've been the one to step on almost everyone's toes. You on the other hand...

You've been acting as the thread moderator for the past few pages.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
July 25 2013 20:35 GMT
#475
Rainbow, your first post coming into the thread was you passing your finger on me by saying all I'm doing is passing finger on other people:

On July 25 2013 02:24 Rainbows wrote:
Can someone meta me on Dandel? Is he always like this?

Z-BosoN says generic pro-town stuff, passively finger-points then goes to bed. Rainbows no like.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, @rayne
You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?

Because the claim is either stupid or scum.


Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is.
However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since...




Up to this point, you have not said anything else about me nor sought to pursue a person you "didn't like".
I really dislike the lack of follow up to this post. Am I scum? Besides Artanis, who do you want to lynch?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 25 2013 20:37 GMT
#476
On July 26 2013 05:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:23 Rainbows wrote:
Artanis who should we hang today?

Right now, I want to lynch Lazer because he seems to be putting a lot of effort into not stepping on people's toes and making sure that the lynch doesn't go in his direction in any case.
##Vote: Lazermonkey
LOL you realize I've been the one to step on almost everyone's toes. You on the other hand...

You've been acting as the thread moderator for the past few pages.
And that makes me scum how? If you actually looked through my filter you would've seen that I've been stepping on alot of toes. That's why alot of guys are suspecting me. Alot of nuubs being angry when I say their play is scummy. You don't say jack shit, just jumo on the most popular wagon yet not pushing it even a centimeter foreward. And unlike them, you aren't a nuub.

Plz die.

##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis[Xp]
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 25 2013 20:40 GMT
#477
Artanis what's your stance on Syl/Koshi?

Lazer, have you seen Koshi play scum? Your townread on him is based on extremely weak and wrong reasons.
table for two on a tv tray
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
July 25 2013 20:41 GMT
#478
Lazermonkey you originally said sylencia was lynchbait and didn't feel compelled to dwelve into him:

On July 25 2013 04:06 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hmyhea, Sylencia looks bad. No scum hunting at all. Sadely he is somewhat of a lynch bait. I managed to get him killed D1 once as scum : /. But he really need to step up his posting.


And thus your vote was on stutters, because he was less of a lynch bait:

On July 25 2013 05:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm getting tired of this... Half of the game this far is almost entierly useless setup speculation. Sure, FT is looking bad but he is AFK right now. Stutters has 1(!) post where he scum hunts. The rest is setup talk, policy talk, defending some dudes when they were in no danger of getting lynched. And his only post worth of scum hunting is bad. I tell him to talk about something else and he continues to talk policy. My guess is that he is trying to appear contributing. He is also avoiding all conflicts by never taking arguement with anyone.

##unvote
##vote: stutters


Everyone else, give your opinion on stutters please!


And then you had an exchange with sylencia and now you feel he's scum, and stutters is of no interest to you anymore.
But you don't want to push sylencia's lynch, saying that you think the lynch will be between FT and Artanis.

Can you be specific as to why you changed your mind on stutters and can you take a stance on sylencia? You are being incredibly wishy-washy on him.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 25 2013 20:41 GMT
#479
On July 26 2013 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis what's your stance on Syl/Koshi?

Lazer, have you seen Koshi play scum? Your townread on him is based on extremely weak and wrong reasons.
No I haven't, have you?

Why are they weak and wrong?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
July 25 2013 20:42 GMT
#480
On July 26 2013 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 26 2013 05:23 Rainbows wrote:
Artanis who should we hang today?

Right now, I want to lynch Lazer because he seems to be putting a lot of effort into not stepping on people's toes and making sure that the lynch doesn't go in his direction in any case.
##Vote: Lazermonkey
LOL you realize I've been the one to step on almost everyone's toes. You on the other hand...

You've been acting as the thread moderator for the past few pages.
And that makes me scum how? If you actually looked through my filter you would've seen that I've been stepping on alot of toes. That's why alot of guys are suspecting me. Alot of nuubs being angry when I say their play is scummy. You don't say jack shit, just jumo on the most popular wagon yet not pushing it even a centimeter foreward. And unlike them, you aren't a nuub.

Plz die.

##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis[Xp]

That makes you scum because it's an easy place for scum to sit. You can control the lynch to make sure no scum comes close to being lynched, whereas a town player isn't interested in being friends with everyone but rather actually wants to find scum. Also, since when are you a leading wagon? I see one vote on you and it's from Sylencia. What the hell are you talking about?
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