I have to admit I don't remember this game TT
And now hongun is doomed TT
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On September 27 2011 18:51 9001 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2011 18:50 MrCon wrote: On September 27 2011 18:48 Grettin wrote: On September 27 2011 18:47 MrCon wrote: Losira is so bad against pressure >< When you least expect it, everyone is. ![]() Good choice by Ganzi. Trying to get that first win to secure his Code S spot. Yeah but Losira especially has this problem. He's the only code A/S zerg that still loses hatches against 2 raxes, proxied or not. Especially on antiga he should have known better. july vs mvp on antiga shipyard? :p I have to admit I don't remember this game TT And now hongun is doomed TT | ||
Emnjay808
United States10653 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On September 27 2011 18:41 markz4 wrote: Is he wearing a cape?? That's a jacket on his back. | ||
SuperFanBoy
New Zealand1068 Posts
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Gary Oak
Canada2381 Posts
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fant0m
964 Posts
On September 27 2011 18:38 RPR_Tempest wrote: Except for the many times he's won without doing an all-in. Uh.... not really. It's really rare for HongUn to play a long macro game. Let alone win one. On September 27 2011 18:39 Toadvine wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2011 18:36 Fubi wrote: On September 27 2011 18:34 MrCon wrote: I hate hongun's build with a passion. 100 supply at the 13rd minute mark, really ? Yea wtf? How were they both at 3 bases, no major engagement, and July was up by 50-60 supplies? What's so strange about that? That's how it usually goes if you're taking a relatively quick third while also getting tech and upgrades. Protoss stuff is expensive. In any case, this is a good example of "just macro" not working out very well, and it's not like HongUn executed badly or anything. Roaches. I don't know why people still don't realize that if you aren't up by at least 20-30 supply with a roach army, you're well behind. If they'd shown the army tab there wouldn't have been a very big difference in minerals/gas invested in army. | ||
parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
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Omar91
Angola620 Posts
On September 27 2011 18:53 SuperFanBoy wrote: 5 second nerf did nothing.. they should of made it like 20 seconds atleast. LOL | ||
sitromit
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Levistus
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On September 27 2011 18:53 Telcontar wrote: Another typical GSL game. Another typical SC2 game. ![]() | ||
Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On September 27 2011 18:52 Demonace34 wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2011 18:51 Demonace34 wrote: On September 27 2011 18:50 Demonace34 wrote: On September 27 2011 18:49 Demonace34 wrote: On September 27 2011 18:47 Demonace34 wrote: On September 27 2011 18:46 Demonace34 wrote: On September 27 2011 18:45 Demonace34 wrote: On September 27 2011 18:44 Demonace34 wrote: Ganzi spawns at 9, Losira spawns at 12. 2:20 Double proxy 13 rax. Hatch first on the way from Losira. 3:40 3 marines and an scv into the natural of Ganzi. 2 bunekrs going down, Losira decides to retreat into his main. 5:00 Both bunkers finish, Losira has lings runby to stop reinforcements. Losira lets his hatchery die. 6:30 Losira makes a proxy hatch near the 3rd of Ganzi. 8:10 Losira cancels his hatch after it being scouted by Ganzi. BFH on the way from Ganzi. Roaches coming from Losira. 9:30 2 bunkers at the natural of Ganzi, roach attack on the way from losira. Losira trying to double expand behind the aggression. 10:25 Ganzi taking out his 3rd rocks, marine tank with siege mode on the way. Losira getting +1 melee and droning as hard as possible. Ganzi getting ready to take a 3rd. 11:40 BFH drop coming from Ganzi does minimal damage. Ganzi gearing up to do a big push. 13:25 Losira goes into siege tanks and marines with banes and none are able to connect. Ganzi pushes into the natural and Losira gets off a good baneling hit but has no army left over and GGs. | ||
Pajegetc
United States3158 Posts
On September 27 2011 18:51 mrtomjones wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2011 18:50 Pajegetc wrote: On September 27 2011 18:48 etrensce wrote: Lol this game has the cheese i expected from the previous game! Bunker rushing is not cheese, it's pressure, something Hongun didn't do last game. -.-' 2 proxy raxes with a bunker rush on 11/11 is cheese. Oh well, I think Zerg SHOULD be afraid to take a fast expansion, and have to scout like Protoss do against Zerg. You can't have it both ways. Free Expand while punishing everyone else that takes a fast expand. | ||
Tantaburs
Canada1825 Posts
"See you kill his base not yours" | ||
RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
On September 27 2011 18:53 fant0m wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2011 18:38 RPR_Tempest wrote: On September 27 2011 18:37 F1rstAssau1t wrote: No all in for HongUn, no win. Except for the many times he's won without doing an all-in. Uh.... not really. It's really rare for HongUn to play a long macro game. Let alone win one. But it has happened, you uneducated fool. ![]() | ||
Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On September 27 2011 18:50 Jehct wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2011 18:48 Toadvine wrote: On September 27 2011 18:46 Jehct wrote: On September 27 2011 18:45 Toadvine wrote: On September 27 2011 18:42 Jehct wrote: On September 27 2011 18:39 Toadvine wrote: On September 27 2011 18:36 Fubi wrote: On September 27 2011 18:34 MrCon wrote: I hate hongun's build with a passion. 100 supply at the 13rd minute mark, really ? Yea wtf? How were they both at 3 bases, no major engagement, and July was up by 50-60 supplies? What's so strange about that? That's how it usually goes if you're taking a relatively quick third while also getting tech and upgrades. Protoss stuff is expensive. In any case, this is a good example of "just macro" not working out very well, and it's not like HongUn executed badly or anything. He executed fucking horribly. As soon as he saw the banelings coming he should've forcefielded his ramp and bought time. If July tries to burrow under it his lings are worthless and his push is a million times weaker in general; if he backs up Hongun's macro kicks in. The execution was badddddd. He did Forcefield his ramp, what are you even talking about? There is simply no way to not lose Sentries to bling drops in a position like that. Sniping the Core was a huge win for July, but that attack was worth it regardless. No he didn't, he forcefielded on top of his army. He saw the banelings coming and didn't pre-forcefield his ramp. There's 100% a way to deny it, naked ovies can't get in there. He Forcefielded most of the Roaches out. And no, there's no way to kill the overlords before they drop the banelings, and you can't run away with Sentries. His army was decently spread out. No it wasn't and he let all the lings and enough roaches flood in. What's the point of keeping an obs on the zergs army if you literally aren't going to react at all? There's a huge timing where you're relying on good force fields; he totally missed it. And if you're engaging their entire army you can't deny 6 ovies of banes; if you pre-forcefield the ramp, zerg can't engage at all. There's no way you burrow move up a ramp while your ovies get sniped, that's awful. Ok, if you really think he could have killed all the overlords before they dropped anything, then I don't see any point to this discussion. On a different note, I'm eagerly anticipating HotS, and the advent of multiple Zerg "pressure" builds that can easily kill a Terran, but transition into the midgame on even terms if they don't. Then I'll be able to tell Terran players they're greedy and dying to standard pressure as they cry in LR threads. | ||
Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
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HQuality
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if anyone have super economy he is pretty good | ||
Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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