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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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Aduromors
United States279 Posts
The coming 7xxx series cards from what I've heard are new revisions of the 6950/6970. They might shake up the higher end GPU market a bit, but without the 2gb 6950 -> flashed 6970 trick I can't see them being much of an improvement over the current generation | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 17 2011 17:42 Sfydjklm wrote: so is it normal for BIOS to restart upon delete stroke? No it's not. On April 17 2011 19:53 Aduromors wrote: AMD's low end 6xxx cards aren't anything to be excited about. The 6790 was just released, which is stripped down 6850 that's not at all worth it's $150 price point, and the 6750 / 6770 are just recycled 5750/5770s I wasn't talking about AMD rebadges, I wasn't aware that AMD needed to snoop down to the level of Nvidia to even do this. I was talking about the 6670, 6570, and 6450 which are all rumored to be on 28nm and set to debut this month. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Retail HD 6450 was paper launched already and should be the usual 40 nm from TSMC... http://www.anandtech.com/show/4263/amds-radeon-hd-6450-uvd3-meets-htpc | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
There's no word on the specifications of the new GPUs yet, but previous rumours have stated that they will be fabricated using TSMC's 28nm facilities. http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2011/04/15/radeon-hd-7000-due-june-or-july/1 Poor wording? =\ | ||
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.Mystic
Canada486 Posts
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/evga-gtx-460-768mb-768-p3-1360-tr-120-obo-1028701/ the gts 450 would be 125 with tax, also how do u know that the parts you buy aren't defected and work Its a pain to change the setup.. That cpu + mobo deal from ncix looks real good for the price, hows this other 1 i found http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.632401 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
That Phenom II X4 840 is really an Athlon II X4 (note: no L3 cache, unlike the "real" Phenom II) that was named a Phenom for marketing reasons I guess, so that would be an example, so it's somewhat of a downgrade. I'd step down the GPU before the CPU, anyway, if you just want medium/high settings. Here's a HD 4830 (more powerful than a HD 5670) for $60 before tax/etc: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57141&promoid=1317 If running caseless or with a salvaged case from elsewhere is not an option, you're probably going to have to cut the CPU down to a Athlon II X4 as well. | ||
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.Mystic
Canada486 Posts
so basically, i just need a motherboard for my preference setup and rest is better spent on cpu | ||
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Aduromors
United States279 Posts
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Zeller
United States1109 Posts
Is this overpriced? Can I run this into the HDMI port of my LED TV and still have a high quality picture? Is the sound going to be good from this laptop into a bose surround sound system(which is connected to my TV) And if this thing sucks, can someone recommend me a good gaming laptop thats pre-built. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On April 18 2011 04:21 HCmystic wrote: i see, so which motherboard do you suggest for med/high settings and streaming. So if i don't need to overclock, need 1 slot for graphics card and since my cpu is only quad core i won't need an expensive motherboard?i think im starting to get it.. didnt even know what a motherboard was 2 days ago xD so basically, i just need a motherboard for my preference setup and rest is better spent on cpu if you really want to penny pinch, use "pick up from <store>" from ncix, http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=58339&promoid=1317 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57924 $230 and from canadacomputers, http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_6_112&item_id=032038 http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_3_61&item_id=027988 http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_24_311_312_611&item_id=035761 http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_26_722&item_id=037677 http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_33_442&item_id=027538 http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_15_210_212&item_id=035358 $304 $534 $604 after tax, no additional shipping charges see this thread for the reasoning behind this build | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 18 2011 04:37 Zeller wrote: http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Battalion_101_X7200_Gaming_Laptop Is this overpriced? Can I run this into the HDMI port of my LED TV and still have a high quality picture? Is the sound going to be good from this laptop into a bose surround sound system(which is connected to my TV) And if this thing sucks, can someone recommend me a good gaming laptop thats pre-built. $2400 without Sandybridge or an SSD, severely overpriced. | ||
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.Mystic
Canada486 Posts
black edition amd is more for overclocking and i dont think ill be needing to overclock, and the L3 cache wouldn't make much of a difference in gaming but idk about streaming. thanks | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On April 18 2011 08:54 HCmystic wrote: hey is there much of a difference btwn i3 core 2100 hyperthread vs Anthlon II x4 black edition amd is more for overclocking and i dont think ill be needing to overclock, and the L3 cache wouldn't make much of a difference in gaming but idk about streaming. thanks trying to do what you want do for $500 all-in is difficult. you have to keep cutting back to cheaper gear and in the end you're just spending good money on old technology, or end up with gear too slow for what you want. not worth it. | ||
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Yammiez
Canada186 Posts
First off here are the questions from the start of the thread. + Show Spoiler [Want a list of parts/Build? Answered Q…] + What is your budget? ~900 -> 1k before taxes. I will be very lenient on this; the core of the build I think I'm set on. What is your resolution? 1920x1200 What are you using it for? Mostly gaming. Might get to do a little streaming on the side. What is your upgrade cycle? ~2 years When do you plan on building it? Immediately within the week. April 21st. Do you plan on overclocking? No plan on overclocking. Do you need an Operating System? No, I don't need an OS (win7 x64 provided by school). Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? It is in my plan to have this option available. Where are you buying your parts from? In Canada (Waterloo / Toronto). I have access to an immediate Canada Computers, but Infonec, NCIX, Newegg, pcvillage etc. are all fine) What I'm thinking about is being worked out here with sources: http://www.ietherpad.com/SweetPotComp2 Would like to have the SLI option available. All listed below for immediate purchase; within the next couple of days. MOBO - 175 - sale - ASUS P8P67 PRO GPU - 155 - weekly sale + mail-in rebate - Asus ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 - 675Mhz, 3600Mhz ? CPU - 220 - intel i5 2500k PSU - 109 - Antec TruePower New -750 RAM - 48 - weekly sale - ADATA XPG Gaming Series 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9-9-9-24 DVD combo drive - 20 - weekly sale - LG Sata - CD, DVD,+-RW,DL, From here I have down, CASE - ~30-40? - I have an old computer (crappier than a netbook) sitting in an Antec P180. Was going to part it out and reuse the case, while getting a cheap replacement HDD - ~100 - Still not sure, friend suggested a Samsung Spinpoint F3, I was originally planning a Western Digital black or green or something. Suggestions here would be most welcome All this above comes to 870 without shipping or taxes. I am planning to pick everything up locally (purchased in store). So I guess in the end, all I have to ask is... thumbs up? thumbs down? Is the Ram OK? There are too many choices and insignificant benchmarks that I don't understand. Any hard suggestions on an HDD? Was thinking to just start off with a 7200rpm 1TB drive and go from there if need be. I am flirting around the idea of an SSD. I tried to get as informed as I can get and do all of the research before asking the thread. Thanks for reading, hope to hear what you think. Mess around in the ether pad if you like! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
1600MHz RAM for gaming is a waste of money. There is very little difference between a $40 1333MHz kit and 1600MHz, see here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 The MSI GTX 460 1GB Cyclone is a better deal @ $180 ($170 after promotional gift card, $145 after mail in rebate): http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54624&promoid=1317 A less expensive DVD drive is the Samsung SH-S223C, you can pricematch it down to $17: http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/223566/Samsung/SH_S223C_BEBE_OEM/ A cheap case would be the Coolermaster Elite 310 @ $36: http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/216705/COOLERMASTER/RC_310_BWN1_GP/ Pricematch down the power supply to $100 if you want to remain at 750w: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10370AC6497 The 650w variant for $70 ( http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10370AC5950 ) would also be perfectly capable of handling a GTX 460 SLI setup. Pricematch down the Core i5 2500k to $215: http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/Intel/BX80623I52500K/ Either a Samsung Spinpoint F3 or Western Digital Caviar Black would be good. The Western Digital Caviar Green series is a slow drive which is meant for storage purposes only. edit: just read that you don't plan on overclocking so it's sort of a waste to plan for SLI if you don't plan for overclocking since it is so easily done on the new processors. I highly suggest that you reconsider both. You'll want an aftermarket cooler such as the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ if you plan on overclocking. If you're not going to be overclocking, you can switch your processor to a core i5 2500 for $ 207 ( http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD4322 ). Only difference between the standard and the K is an unlocked multiplier which is used for overclocking. SLI is also a horrible upgrade path fyi. An example would be the 8800GT released three years ago at $200 pricepoint, the GTX 460 was released almost a year ago at the $200 pricepoint as well and it outperforms a 8800GT SLI setup and at the same time, produce less heat / noise and consume less power. | ||
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ForgottenOne
Romania236 Posts
On April 16 2011 07:56 skyR wrote: When you feel like tackling the problem again, you can try this: http://nookkin.com/content/allowing-any-screen-resolution-on-vista.php It worked like a charm: + Show Spoiler + So I bent the 12th pin from the VGA cable on both ends. Uninstalled the drivers, both monitor and graphics card. Windows 7 saw the monitor as Generic PnP. I forced it to install the proper driver for my monitor. Wouldn't let me set to 1680x1050. Set to a average resolution that won't cause troubles. Installed the driver for the graphics card + automatically installed some monitor driver from the same disc. Restart. Resolution could not be displayed: out of range. Switched the cable with one with pin 12 unbent. Restart. Log in. The resolution was already set to 1680x1050 and working wonderfully. Thank you, skyR, you are awesome! We still have a couple of problems to tackle, though... | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
As skyR mentioned, leaving the option of a SLI upgrade path is not necessarily a great idea. If you don't need SLI support and are not overclocking, you could get a ~$100 motherboard (just as good for your purposes), a decent ~$60 power supply, and a i5-2x00 non-k. With the savings, you could get an SSD like you were thinking about, or maybe a better graphics card. If you're overclocking but not wanting SLI, you can just move down to a P8P67 / P67A-UD3-level motherboard, grab an aftermarket cooler, keep the i5-2500k, and similarly step down the power supply. That probably still leaves room for an SSD, which I'd recommend. HDD performance is much less important if you have an SSD, since you'll mostly use the HDD for large data access, at which they all perform decently. | ||
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Cornstyle
United States147 Posts
Just wanted to give a big thank you to you guys for the help and suggestions over the past few weeks. I built my rig yesterday and so far everything is working great. SSDs blow my mind :D | ||
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