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mcJ
Denmark322 Posts
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AM3 motherboard (SATA3 & USB3.0) CPU : Phenom II X6 1090T Ram: Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 HyperX DualChannel RAM Harddisk: Western Digital 1TB S-ATA3 6Gb/s Silent (7200rpm) GPU: ATI Radeon HD6950 1GB DDR5 PCI-E Power: 700W ATX Silent 17dB price is around 1400USD, mind you i live in Denmark (taxes etc etc) money well spend or no? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 19 2011 02:37 mcJ wrote: So i'm buying a new desktop, and i've lost track of whats good etc. I found this computer: Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AM3 motherboard (SATA3 & USB3.0) CPU : Phenom II X6 1090T Ram: Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 HyperX DualChannel RAM Harddisk: Western Digital 1TB S-ATA3 6Gb/s Silent (7200rpm) GPU: ATI Radeon HD6950 1GB DDR5 PCI-E Power: 700W ATX Silent 17dB price is around 1400USD, mind you i live in Denmark (taxes etc etc) money well spend or no? No. Intel's Core i5 2500k is in the same price range as the Phenom X6 1090T and it destroys it in most if not all applications, see here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20 1600MHz RAM is not necessary for the majority of tasks, see here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 A 700W power supply is not necessary for a single graphic card configuration. For a prebuilt, I think you can do better for the price. | ||
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Mr.Loki
Germany136 Posts
after some further research I changed some parts of the build. I'm quite convinced with most stuff (more, or less - at least I don't feel like something will be a bad choice), but I don't know, which motherboard to buy. They all seem so small. First of all my first post, here, in case you need some general info, then the tower I already have and the rest of the system, as I imagine it, right now. All prices in Euro:
The mainboard now gives me headaches, most of them seem so small, not only the distance between the RAM-Slots (where I'd prefer four) to the CPU, but often also the distance between the PCIe-Slot and the CPU. I like my old ASUS board, so I'd prbably buy an Asus P8H67 for 105 Euro, as at least the videocard-cpu-distance seems large. I'd be grateful for advices to any of the parts, but especially the motherboard.  | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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GrymReaperz
Canada26 Posts
My budget it between $1750-$2000 but if i can get something cheaper that has equal performance it would be fine What is your resolution? 1920 X 1200 What are you using it for? Mostly 3d solidworks assemblies as well as some high end gaming like crysis 2 and shift unleashed 2 as well as sc2 What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4 years. plus if it can still handle the software When do you plan on building it? late july early august Do you plan on overclocking? I do not have a lot of experience in overclocking but i would really like to try if it can improve performance Do you need an Operating System? Yes windows 7 home-premium Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? maybe if it can increase my upgrade cycle by at least 1/2 year Where are you buying your parts from? Mostly NCIX.com but also canada computers or tiger direct if they have better prices Any help would be greatly appreciated as i have only ever bought pre-built computers and am not really sure how to go about researching components and compatability. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Look at the performance difference between the core i5 2400 and core i5 2500 for yourself here and decide if it is worth it: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_7.html Yes you can use a core i5 2500k on an H67 motherboard and it would make sense in your case since it is cheaper than the core i5 2500. The DIMM slots and CPU socket is close yes and some tower heatsinks will block you from accessing the first DIMM slot or prevent you from using RAM with tall heatspreaders. The Mushkin Silverline doesn't have tall heatspreaders so this shouldn't be an issue. The Corsair Performance 3 is a good choice of an SSD. The distance between the CPU socket and PCI-E slot should not be a concern for you. 480W is more than enough for your configuration. @GrymReaperz Come back in July or August when you plan to build. It would be useless for me to give you a configuration now since AMD is set to release their next generation processors in June and prices will have changed a lot in three months. Just a word of advice though, SLI is a horrible upgrade path. Don't plan for it unless you are guaranteed a free or heavily discounted graphics card in the future. NCIX offers pricematching and a bigger selection than its competitors so you can buy all your parts from them. | ||
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
resolution is 27inch 1920 x xxxx (w/e hd is) I will need everything else other than the video card. I'm going to continue to use my 260GTX until I can afford a really good card. I would rather not compromise on everything else to try to do all... Suggestions on Motherboard that supports sli? Also how much PSU will I need...eventually I will add a 2nd vid card a ssd. I also want a bluray/dvd player not a burner...I don't burn stuff sorry. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
480W is plenty and that particular power supply is pretty good too. It's also quiet, especially at the kind of loads (less than 300W) that you will be putting on it. See here: http://www.itocp.com/htmls/68/n-1468.html @purecarnagge: What are you using the computer for? Does the budget include the operating system? $1300 is already a high enough budget not to compromise on anything and get a new high-end video card as well as a decent SSD. How much PSU you need depends on which graphics cards, CPU, etc. you are getting. Unless you're aiming for SLI GTX 580, around 750W is plenty. Something like SLI GTX 560 or Crossfire HD 6950 would run fine on 650W. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
4.5ghz running under 55C, 24hr prime95 stable. This thing is pretty amazing. Apologizing in advance if I'm misusing the thread =P BTW to those who advised me to take the 750W, I did end up taking the 850W but it was only $5 more and I like the head room in case I end up going SLI. It already consumes 560W under max load too. ![[image loading]](http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/DJZapZ/SoprettyLQ.jpg) Here are the specs. Case: NZXT Phantom EATX Red DVD Drive: Samsung SH-S223C 22X DVD Hard drives: WD Green 2TB + WD Black 1TB SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 Extended Sandforce 120GB Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Pro ATX P67 CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Cooler: Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H70 GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 RAM: G.SKILL F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL Ripjaws 8GB PSU: Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 80PLUS | ||
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
On April 19 2011 07:28 Myrmidon wrote: @purecarnagge: What are you using the computer for? Does the budget include the operating system? $1300 is already a high enough budget not to compromise on anything and get a new high-end video card as well as a decent SSD. How much PSU you need depends on which graphics cards, CPU, etc. you are getting. Unless you're aiming for SLI GTX 580, around 750W is plenty. Something like SLI GTX 560 or Crossfire HD 6950 would run fine on 650W. sc2, gaming primarily. I wouldn't mind being able to use fraps and edit gaming vods but thats not a huge priority. I want to show up watch GSL, play World of Tanks (shouldn't be a problem) and run SC2 pretty well...atm I get lag in certain instances like when a bunch of models come on my screen or start of the game when your sending your probes to the minerals...its brutal lag/loading. OS needs to be part of the 1300.00 budget. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Total comes to $1291. If your primary goal is playing SC2 smoothly on ultra at 1920x1200, SLI is a waste of money and also a bad upgrade path. Getting a newer generation graphics card is almost always the better option. This configuration will have SLI capabilities and will easily handle editing and all the latest games once you replace your GTX 260. Core i5 2500k + ASUS P8P67 Pro Combo Deal @ $385 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.622007 Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136513 OCZ Vertex 3 120GB @ $300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706 Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $75 (Shell Shocker Deal) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345 XFX Core Edition Pro 850W @ $120 (only $5 more expensive than the 750w variant so no reason not to get it) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207011 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 Coolermaster HAF 932 Advanced @ $160 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160 Blu-ray Drive @ $56 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106325 Windows 7 @ $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 | ||
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
On April 19 2011 08:21 skyR wrote: @purecarnagge Total comes to $1291. If your primary goal is playing SC2 smoothly on ultra at 1920x1200, SLI is a waste of money and also a bad upgrade path. Getting a newer generation graphics card is almost always the better option. This configuration will have SLI capabilities and will easily handle editing and all the latest games once you replace your GTX 260. Core i5 2500k + ASUS P8P67 Pro Combo Deal @ $385 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.622007 Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136513 OCZ Vertex 3 120GB @ $300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706 Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $75 (Shell Shocker Deal) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345 XFX Core Edition Pro 850W @ $120 (only $5 more expensive than the 750w variant so no reason not to get it) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207011 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 Coolermaster HAF 932 Advanced @ $160 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160 Blu-ray Drive @ $56 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106325 Windows 7 @ $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 Thanks thats awesome. Yeah I didn't want to do sli right away just wanted to make sure it had the capabilities... | ||
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flavorless
United States59 Posts
What is your budget? 500-600 dollars. What is your resolution? 1280 x 1024 What are you using it for? Mainly gaming (sc2). I would like to be able to run it comfortably at medium/high. Upgrade cycle: 3 years. When do you plan on building it? Late June. Do you plan on overclocking? Maybe the processor/gpu, but I would like to avoid it if I could. Do you need an Operating System? No, I already have a 7 pro licence. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where do you plan on buying? Newegg. So I feel pretty good about physically putting it together, but software/driver installation intimidates me. Are there any good guides you could direct me to? Thank you in advance! | ||
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Mr.Loki
Germany136 Posts
Now I just need to wait, till the SSDs will be in stock again -.-*g | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129035 1TB Spinpoint F3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 5770 w/ $20 rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102898 4GB of Kingston DDR3 memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134718 ASRock H61M-VS motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 i5-2400 processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 Total: $572.94 without the mail in rebate. If you want a DVD drive, just go into any computer store and buy a $20 sata drive or rip it out of a old desktop. If you do choose to buy the NSK3480, I'll give you a suggestion: flip the power supply around 180 degrees before installing anything, it makes cables easier to maneuver. Also cram any unused cables into the unused floppy disk drive and use zip ties to cable manage. You can save a few bucks here and there if you look for the same products online and try getting Newegg to price match. But that's pretty much how much its going to cost. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On April 19 2011 13:57 flavorless wrote: Hey guys! So this is my first time building a computer, but I do have some experience (replacing ram, hard drives, etc.). Well, here goes. What is your budget? 500-600 dollars. What is your resolution? 1280 x 1024 What are you using it for? Mainly gaming (sc2). I would like to be able to run it comfortably at medium/high. Upgrade cycle: 3 years. When do you plan on building it? Late June. Do you plan on overclocking? Maybe the processor/gpu, but I would like to avoid it if I could. Do you need an Operating System? No, I already have a 7 pro licence. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where do you plan on buying? Newegg. So I feel pretty good about physically putting it together, but software/driver installation intimidates me. Are there any good guides you could direct me to? Thank you in advance! Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge + GIGABYTE H61 Motherboard - $187 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.622953 Asus nVidia GeForce GTX 460 768MB Overclocked - $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390 CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) Shell Shocker - $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345 Antec EarthWatts Green 430w PSU - $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034 Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB HDD - $65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136513 Samsung DVD Burner - $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151192 Antec Three Hundred Case - $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 Total: $597 It does go a bit overboard, though. You can easily find cheaper cases (although shipping is important to keep in mind) for about $10-20 less. You can also drop the 8GB and go to 4GB, which would save $35 (the motherboard doesn't support 1600, but it'll just downclock and still be compatible, if you're wondering). The hard drive can also be 500GB for ~$20 less, and the graphics card can be stepped down to maybe Radeon 5770 to save another $40, if you want. You can also step down to a 380w PSU for $10, although there would be a little less room for upgrading. The system is just a baseline for what you can get for $600, minus tax and shipping. Drivers, really, you just do some searching (preferably on the manufacturer's site) to find the latest/best ones. EDIT: Blast, beat to the punch. | ||
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Char711
United States862 Posts
I just grounded by touching the back of the computer case like one of my friends did when he built his. In the end, I got it up and running pretty damn easily, almost instantly solving the one problem I had with a cable. Some things were weird (never knew you would have to push things so hard into the motherboard), but, overall, it really wasn't too bad. I am now reveling in the fact that I have a nice, high-powered system that auto-detects ultra settings for everything, haha. The seemingly unlimited HD space and everything in one OS is a godsend to me. I also got lucky and, since it was right after my 21st birthday, my uncle bought me a 60 GB OCZ SSD that I put the OS on along with SC2 and any programs that I'll install. I'm still going through the download/install/transfer process (iTunes library should be finished in around 20 minutes), but it's bearable thinking I have a new system to put it all on (never mind that, randomly, I have a break from school work until classes end and finals start!). So thank you, TL, for helping to steer me down this path and giving me advice along the way. skyR, you were a great help and I also want to give a shoutout to those of you who pointed out the amazing deals I got (2x4 GB G.Skill RAM for ~$70 and the i5-2400+Radeon HD 6870 combo). <3 you all! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
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Soft`Soap
Canada865 Posts
Stuff such as, what programs to install (like adaware and such) and if I should modify anything? Configure fan speed or I don't know lol. Also, if any of you guys would have advice on what I could do to save my laptop from being rendered useless, I would also appreciate it. I made a thread here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=214258 | ||
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