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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
April 19 2011 06:51 GMT
#4461
On April 19 2011 07:53 Djzapz wrote:
Hey, I want to ask what people think but won't make a new thread for it. I think it's pretty!
4.5ghz running under 55C, 24hr prime95 stable. This thing is pretty amazing. Apologizing in advance if I'm misusing the thread =P

BTW to those who advised me to take the 750W, I did end up taking the 850W but it was only $5 more and I like the head room in case I end up going SLI. It already consumes 560W under max load too.


how did you measure 560w?
starleague forever
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 19 2011 07:47 GMT
#4462
@Legatus Lanius

In terms of the GTX 560: Twin Frozr II > Windforce > DirectCU II

For the higher-end cards, the DirectCU II wins since it's a triple slot design.

@MiXyass

All you need is Microsoft Security Essentials for a firewall and anti-virus.

All the latest drivers should have been installed by NCIX and they most likely also already updated your Windows 7 with SP1.

MSI Afterburner can be used to adjust the fan speed on the graphics card.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
April 19 2011 08:56 GMT
#4463
On April 19 2011 16:47 skyR wrote:
@Legatus Lanius

In terms of the GTX 560: Twin Frozr II > Windforce > DirectCU II

For the higher-end cards, the DirectCU II wins since it's a triple slot design.

@MiXyass

All you need is Microsoft Security Essentials for a firewall and anti-virus.

All the latest drivers should have been installed by NCIX and they most likely also already updated your Windows 7 with SP1.

MSI Afterburner can be used to adjust the fan speed on the graphics card.


ah thanks skyr
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
mcJ
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 10:01:09
April 19 2011 10:00 GMT
#4464

What is your budget?

Around $1400

What is your resolution?

1280 x 1024 i'd like to have capabilities to support higher resolutions though

What are you using it for?

mainly gaming, which means running sc2 smoothly on ultra but also running programs such as Ableton Live

When do you plan on building it?

next month, aka in may

Do you plan on overclocking?


nope

Do you need an Operating System?

nope


Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?


nope

Where are you buying your parts from?

I'm planning on buying a prebuilt, i found one with these specs

CPU: Inten Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz 6MB S-1155
MOBO: ASUS P8H67-M LX SI INTEL B3 DDR3 S-1155
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1333MHz CL9 Kingston (2x4GB)
GPU: Originially had: 1024MB XFX ATI HD6870 900M DDR5 PCI-E but i decided to upgrade it to 2048MB ASUS EAH6950 2DI2S GDDR5 PCI-E for $60 extra
HDD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda5900.3 64MB SATA2, can downgrade it to some others
PSU: Originally had: 1000W Energon EPS-1000 140mm but I decided to downgrade it to 750W Energon EPS-750 130mm which saves me around $50
Case: NZXT Vulcan
All this for $1372 (mind you i live in Denmark 25% taxes on errting but the 25% are included in the price)
here's a link http://fcomputer.dk/?show=system_show&systemlinkid=102227


I'd be glad if you could find hardware for the same price, mind you that i will also need a new case if i build my own. I just dont know whats good or what I can get for my budget, thats why im rolling with the prebuilt ATM, but you may convince me otherwise ^____^
bananajk
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany92 Posts
April 19 2011 10:18 GMT
#4465
add alternate.de and caseking.de to the european shops.
Can i support an i5-2500K and a Radeon 6950 with 550 Watt ??

mfg banana
fragster.de | [F_]ragster
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
April 19 2011 10:38 GMT
#4466
On April 19 2011 19:18 GerBanana wrote:
add alternate.de and caseking.de to the european shops.
Can i support an i5-2500K and a Radeon 6950 with 550 Watt ??

mfg banana


If its made by Antec, Corsair, or Seasonic, it'll definitely run since I don't think any of them make rubbish power supplies anymore. Other brands, who knows but if its an actual 80 Plus power supply, it shouldn't have any issues.
Miwyfe
Profile Joined September 2010
England101 Posts
April 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#4467
Just to say thankyou skyR for a reply back on page 211. You recommended some software to check my temperatures and other things. My pc is working again atm so thanks very much. Afterburner comes with video capture aswell apparently which is really cool.
Aduromors
Profile Joined July 2009
United States279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 12:46:54
April 19 2011 12:46 GMT
#4468
On April 19 2011 14:20 Womwomwom wrote:
Antec NSK3480 w/380W power supply.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129035
1TB Spinpoint F3:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
5770 w/ $20 rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102898
4GB of Kingston DDR3 memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134718
ASRock H61M-VS motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
i5-2400 processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Total: $572.94 without the mail in rebate. If you want a DVD drive, just go into any computer store and buy a $20 sata drive or rip it out of a old desktop.

If you do choose to buy the NSK3480, I'll give you a suggestion: flip the power supply around 180 degrees before installing anything, it makes cables easier to maneuver. Also cram any unused cables into the unused floppy disk drive and use zip ties to cable manage.

You can save a few bucks here and there if you look for the same products online and try getting Newegg to price match. But that's pretty much how much its going to cost.


That's a sketchy PSU/case combo. For the same price you could get an earthwatts 430/cooler master elite instead

In general I'd stay away from any of Antec's cheap modular or "basiq" PSUs. Earthwatts is alright though
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 13:19:15
April 19 2011 13:06 GMT
#4469
The price isn't as good but since you've got a mATX motherboard you might as well take advantage of the form factor. The small size, 0.8mm steel, and separated power supply is pretty good for efficient and quiet cooling as well. Its unbelievably tiny, actually fits full height tower coolers, and looks really attractive in person.

The power supply it comes with is an Earthwatts and you're not going to do much better for a low budget build.
Aduromors
Profile Joined July 2009
United States279 Posts
April 19 2011 13:17 GMT
#4470
oh wow woops didn't see that. Still, considering that PSU is $40 on newegg right now, there are plenty of other cases that would fit into that budget
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 15:49:49
April 19 2011 15:49 GMT
#4471
On April 19 2011 15:51 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 07:53 Djzapz wrote:
Hey, I want to ask what people think but won't make a new thread for it. I think it's pretty!
4.5ghz running under 55C, 24hr prime95 stable. This thing is pretty amazing. Apologizing in advance if I'm misusing the thread =P

BTW to those who advised me to take the 750W, I did end up taking the 850W but it was only $5 more and I like the head room in case I end up going SLI. It already consumes 560W under max load too.


how did you measure 560w?

Might not be the right methodology but it's hooked to a UPS which shows the wattage used. I had Prime95 and Furmark running.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Yammiez
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada186 Posts
April 19 2011 16:48 GMT
#4472
@ skyR, Myrmidon
Thank you both for your quick response and insightful input. I thought about all the advice and decided to go for broke (or just, look into actually OCing my machine after I get my hands on it). The deals you guys pointed out right off the bat are just better and cheaper. Been a little busy so I'll just use the free shipping that they're also giving.

Might hold-off on the SSD for now (I kind of want to get my hands on a working computer first!), but is there any value recommendations out there?
OCZ Vertex 2 (80gb for 150, 90gb for 170) - but there has been a lot of news of bad QA from OCZ
Intel x25-m (80gb for 150, 120gb for 200)
Smash fear, learn anything; except for spiders
andynewin
Profile Joined March 2010
United States105 Posts
April 19 2011 17:58 GMT
#4473
hey anyone know if this is a good deal not http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.636104

my budget is like 350 so it seems perfect I want to play sc2 on high atleast

i think ill grab a either a 450 or pay a little more for a 460 video card
[url=http://sc2sig.com/profile/us/1731636/1/chairmallet/][img]http://sc2sig.com/s/us/1731636-1.png[/img][/url]
Zorgon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States211 Posts
April 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#4474
On April 20 2011 02:58 andynewin wrote:
hey anyone know if this is a good deal not http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.636104

my budget is like 350 so it seems perfect I want to play sc2 on high atleast

i think ill grab a either a 450 or pay a little more for a 460 video card


Do you have a hard drive and optical drive that you plan on reusing (note that one must be SATA)?
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
April 19 2011 18:33 GMT
#4475
is it worth it to go from a 2500k to a 2600k processor? I don't really know much about OC or anything like that. So I wouldn't plan on me OC anything. Although I'm sure some would be quick to help me learn how to do it effectively.
Aduromors
Profile Joined July 2009
United States279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 18:40:03
April 19 2011 18:36 GMT
#4476
On April 20 2011 02:58 andynewin wrote:
hey anyone know if this is a good deal not http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.636104

my budget is like 350 so it seems perfect I want to play sc2 on high atleast

i think ill grab a either a 450 or pay a little more for a 460 video card


It would be a great deal of the PSU wasn't complete shit. Adding in the cost of a real PSU effectively removes the combo discount

On April 20 2011 03:33 purecarnagge wrote:
is it worth it to go from a 2500k to a 2600k processor? I don't really know much about OC or anything like that. So I wouldn't plan on me OC anything. Although I'm sure some would be quick to help me learn how to do it effectively.


The only difference between the i5-2500k and the i7-2600k is hyperthreading. For most applications they are the same, performance wise
Wolfsburg
Profile Joined April 2011
United States9 Posts
April 19 2011 19:38 GMT
#4477
Wondering if this setup would be decent for SC2 / other games.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.636051

More less wondering if that is a decent setup and then what videocard you guys would suggest I get in addition to that combo.

As for needs:
I want to be able to play SC2 with higher than minimum graphics that I have on my laptop atm. Also would like to be able to run Crysis 2 and other FPS games with similar graphic intensive needs.

As requested:
What is your budget?

Around $1,000 more if needed.

What is your resolution?

Already have this monitor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

What are you using it for?

Gaming

When do you plan on building it?

This month

Do you plan on overclocking?

No

Do you need an Operating System?

Buying Windows 7 - not part of budget.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Probably not.

Where are you buying your parts from?

newegg or other online retailers.

Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated and thank you for everything!
Cornstyle
Profile Joined October 2010
United States147 Posts
April 19 2011 21:48 GMT
#4478
Hey guys,

So I just built my computer this past Sunday and everything is working well except for some small problems with the graphics card. The card in question is an XFX HD 6950 1 GB purchased from newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/product
Once in the 2 days of it being operational the system crashed with a solid color screen with black vertical lines. This problem was mentioned by a few people in their feedback of the card on newegg itself.
Second issue: When playing SC2 for about 45- 1 hour straight I begin to notice some occasional blurring of the screen if I am scrolling around the map rapidly. Its not big but its noticable. Is there anything I can do other than reinstall the drivers or should I just RMA the card right away?
flavorless
Profile Joined August 2010
United States59 Posts
April 19 2011 22:43 GMT
#4479
Wow, fast response. Thanks, Wom, Zeke, Myrmidon, etc. So I guess that I'll wait around for more info on the bulldozer before buying. I do have an old desktop to rip basic parts out of, although I don't think that anything other than the optical drive would be worthwhile for a new machine.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" — Isaac Asimov
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 19 2011 23:46 GMT
#4480
@Wolfsburg

No, the Phenom II X6 is not the best choice for the sole purpose of gaming. You could do much better by selecting each individual component. This configuration comes to $708 before mail in rebates and promotions:

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Asrock H67M @ $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157233

MSI Radeon 6850 Cyclone @ $183 ($168 after mail in rebate)

2x2GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

Samsung Spinpoint F3 @ $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

XFX Core Edition 450W @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

DVD Drive @ $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151192
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